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Nov 9, 2013 9:24 AM in response to ChrisW£by Chasb27,I have come to appreciate that if I want to sync my desktop diary with my iPhone and not miss any client appointments ( or my kids parties) now that I've installed Mavericks, I will have to use iCloud.
I'm not bothered about who knows the content of my calendar as I have nothing worth hiding.
However, I have discovered that some appointments that wee created on my iPhone before I converted to Mac from PC a week ago do not sync with iCloud no matter what I do.
Spent best part of an hour on phone to Apple Support talking to a very sensible and helpful (possibly Norwegian) member of the Apple team and he was stumped. Has elevated it to the Engineering team.
So, it's alright Apple removing local sync but it might have been sensible of them to thoroughly test the integrity of the only Apple alternative first!
Watch this space.
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Nov 9, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Mrs. Migginsby Csound1,Yes, works in Mavericks, both methods work.
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Nov 9, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Gerrit7by Birthdoula,I live in a country where internet is not available everywhere. I cannot sync with iCloud all the time and I use my macbook pro and iphone a lot for work. I have always used the cable to sync and found it worked most fine. Suddenly I no longer have a back up on my mac as the sync function via cable is no longer supported by iTunes.
Apple seriously needs to address this as it is not a question of whether we should all be forced to use iCloud or not or whether we want to or not. The problem here is that there are 1000's of users that DO NOT have the option to use only iCloud for whatever reason!!!!
This is the crux of the problem.
This stinks and I am seriously unhappy with this unthoughtful move!
When the world has entered into an age where there is readily available internet access everywhere on the globe we can have this as an option but to date there are many places that are not covered by internet so we need to have a manual option still.
APPLE WAKE UP AND LISTEN TO YOUR USERS!!!
Now if anyone can point me directly where to write an official complaint to apple I will do so.
Thank you!
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Nov 9, 2013 9:35 AM in response to Birthdoulaby Livebox,Many others share your view, Birthdoula.
This seemingly innocuous little change carries very heavy implications for data-security, convenience and control.
There are a number of uncomfortable options that can be found in these forums, but whatever option is chosen should not distract one from letting Apple know how they feel.
Concerned users should remember that this issue encompasses three areas, so feedback should be provided to Apple through the relevant channels for iPhone, iTunes and Mac OS X at:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
Feedback to Apple should always be constructive, informative and non-abusive. They are an intelligent company and they are more likely to respond to intelligent argument than flame-filled demands.
Some people have spoken to their respective local and national media about this issue.
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Nov 9, 2013 10:30 AM in response to handsOFFmydataby handsOFFmydata,handsOFFmydata wrote:
One option discussed before was setting an OSX Server and own cloud … here is a lighter option. Some technicals skills are still required.
This would involve using own web server on a networked computer, or on a personal computer, and installing ownCloud (mentioned before) to synchronize contacts/calendars and more. The footprint and overhead is much smaller than using OSX Server.
The requirements are as follows:
1. You need to have your local WLAN, or access to one to synchronize your idvices with your Mac. It can be your home network, some public network (security?), or your personal hotspot like MiFi (no cell/data connection required). You do not need Internet connection to sync, just the means to interconnect your Mac/server and your idevices.
2. Install MAMP on your networked or personal computer: http://www.mamp.info/en/mamp/index.html
MAMP installs a local server environment in a matter of seconds on your Mac OS X computer, be it MacBook or iMac … Furthermore, if MAMP is no longer needed, it is sufficient to delete the MAMP folder and everything returns to its original status (i.e. MAMP does not modify any of the "normal" OS X).
3. Install ownCloud Server 5 on the same computer, and clients on Mac(s) and idvices: http://owncloud.org/install/
More info about calendar/contacts sync under ownCloud: http://doc.owncloud.org/server/5.0/user_manual/pim/index.html
From what I read, you can use server based Calendar and Contacts using ownCloud client apps, or synchronize between your Mac and idvices apps. The latter is the goal of this exercise. Your master calendar/contacts data will reside in your own cloud on your own computer.
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I will try this when I get back home in three weeks. Meantime any comments, especially those based on the first hand experience would be appreciated. Cheers!
Another question regarding personal Mac install (not a dedicated server) ...
If instead of ownCloud, I would go with Baikal ( http://baikal-server.com/ ) which seems to have even smaller footprint than ownCloud, will MAMP mentioned above provide all web server services including PHP and SQL required by Baikal?
To put it in simple terms … will MAMP and Baikal combination run on a personal Mac running OSX 10.9 (not server)?
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Nov 9, 2013 10:58 AM in response to handsOFFmydataby KiltedTim,You are the one who refuses to accept reality. I suggest you move on.
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Nov 9, 2013 11:14 AM in response to KiltedTimby handsOFFmydata,I refuse to accept YOUR reality, and I am trying to move on … you are the roadblock. Do you have any technical insight or experience to contribute? If not, get silent … this is a technical forum … your comments are typical of a troll. Good day!
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Nov 9, 2013 11:39 AM in response to handsOFFmydataby DiederikStaay,I suggest we all just acknowledge the existance of KiltedTim, Snozdog, Petewhatever and the likes of them and leave them be. We can discuss this while skipping their contributions. Ignore is the way to go.
By the way, some great prospects have come passed. When I have time and the audacity to try I will give it a go. In the meantime I just added some more feedback to Apple the official way. Never hurts to remind them :-)
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Nov 9, 2013 11:39 AM in response to Birthdoulaby Barney-15E,The problem here is that there are 1000's of users that DO NOT have the option to use only iCloud for whatever reason!!!!
This is the crux of the problem.
You don't have to use any "cloud." You just have to set up your own CalDAV and CardDAV servers. It doesn't have to be out on the internet. It can exist only within your own home network. That process is not as easy as turning on iCloud, but I imagine someone will create a simple installer to make it almost that easy.
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Nov 9, 2013 5:24 PM in response to petermac87by brollyjohn,Are you talking about the online <Edited By Host> that another 250 people signed in less than 24 hours?
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Nov 9, 2013 11:04 PM in response to Gerrit7by SergeiSteadi,In 1984 Apple was the woman in red shorts , Today Apple is becoming the man on the screen.
Apple, please don't forget the woman with the hammer.
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Nov 10, 2013 12:51 AM in response to SergeiSteadiby DiederikStaay,SergeiSteadi wrote:
In 1984 Apple was the woman in red shorts , Today Apple is becoming the man on the screen.
Apple, please don't forget the woman with the hammer.
So well put
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Nov 10, 2013 2:29 AM in response to jonfromdalevilleby appid,jon from daneville - re NSA "asking" for info ... well thats a good point. That is true in the USA. I live in Australia where there are strong provacy laws. The European Union has similar privacy laws. These privacy laws mean another Government cannot just "ask" for my data in my country. Whether that Government is the USA, China or Russia.