Gerrit7

Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by Chasb27,

    Chasb27 Chasb27 Nov 9, 2013 9:24 AM in response to ChrisW£
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    Nov 9, 2013 9:24 AM in response to ChrisW£

    I have come to appreciate that if I want to sync my desktop diary with my iPhone and not miss any client appointments ( or my kids parties) now that I've installed Mavericks, I will have to use iCloud.

     

    I'm not bothered about who knows the content of my calendar as I have nothing worth hiding.

     

    However, I have discovered that some appointments that wee created on my iPhone before I converted to Mac from PC a week ago do not sync with iCloud no matter what I do.

     

    Spent best part of an hour on phone to Apple Support talking to a very sensible and helpful (possibly Norwegian) member of the Apple team and he was stumped. Has elevated it to the Engineering team.

     

    So, it's alright Apple removing local sync but it might have been sensible of them to  thoroughly test the integrity of the only Apple alternative first!

     

    Watch this space.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 9, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins
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    Nov 9, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins

    Yes, works in Mavericks, both methods work.

  • by Birthdoula,

    Birthdoula Birthdoula Nov 9, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 9, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Gerrit7

    I live in a country where internet is not available everywhere. I cannot sync with iCloud all the time and I use my macbook pro and iphone a lot for work. I have always used the cable to sync and found it worked most fine. Suddenly I no longer have a back up on my mac as the sync function via cable is no longer supported by iTunes.

    Apple seriously needs to address this as it is not a question of whether we should all be forced to use iCloud or not or whether we want to or not. The problem here is that there are 1000's of users that DO NOT have the option to use only iCloud for whatever reason!!!!

    This is the crux of the problem.

     

    This stinks and I am seriously unhappy with this unthoughtful move!

    When the world has entered into an age where there is readily available internet access everywhere on the globe we can have this as an option but to date there are many places that are not covered by internet so we need to have a manual option still.

     

    APPLE WAKE UP AND LISTEN TO YOUR USERS!!!

     

    Now if anyone can point me directly where to write an official complaint to apple I will do so.

    Thank you!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 9, 2013 9:31 AM in response to Birthdoula
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    Nov 9, 2013 9:31 AM in response to Birthdoula

    Tell Apple then, not us.

  • by Livebox,

    Livebox Livebox Nov 9, 2013 9:35 AM in response to Birthdoula
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    Nov 9, 2013 9:35 AM in response to Birthdoula

    Many others share your view, Birthdoula.

     

    This seemingly innocuous little change carries very heavy implications for data-security, convenience and control.

     

    There are a number of uncomfortable options that can be found in these forums, but whatever option is chosen should not distract one from letting Apple know how they feel.


    Concerned users should remember that this issue encompasses three areas, so feedback should be provided to Apple through the relevant channels for iPhone, iTunes and Mac OS X at:

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

     

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

     

    Feedback to Apple should always be constructive, informative and non-abusive. They are an intelligent company and they are more likely to respond to intelligent argument than flame-filled demands.

     

    Some people have spoken to their respective local and national media about this issue.

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 9, 2013 10:30 AM in response to handsOFFmydata
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    Nov 9, 2013 10:30 AM in response to handsOFFmydata

    handsOFFmydata wrote:

     

    One option discussed before was setting an OSX Server and own cloud … here is a lighter option. Some technicals skills are still required.

     

    This would involve using own web server on a networked computer, or on a personal computer, and installing ownCloud (mentioned before) to synchronize contacts/calendars and more. The footprint and overhead is much smaller than using OSX Server.

     

    The requirements are as follows:

     

    1. You need to have your local WLAN, or access to one to synchronize your idvices with your Mac. It can be your home network, some public network (security?), or your personal hotspot like MiFi (no cell/data connection required). You do not need Internet connection to sync, just the means to interconnect your Mac/server and your idevices.

     

    2. Install MAMP on your networked or personal computer: http://www.mamp.info/en/mamp/index.html

     

    MAMP installs a local server environment in a matter of seconds on your Mac OS X computer, be it MacBook or iMac … Furthermore, if MAMP is no longer needed, it is sufficient to delete the MAMP folder and everything returns to its original status (i.e. MAMP does not modify any of the "normal" OS X).

     

    3. Install ownCloud Server 5 on the same computer, and clients on Mac(s) and idvices: http://owncloud.org/install/

     

    More info about calendar/contacts sync under ownCloud: http://doc.owncloud.org/server/5.0/user_manual/pim/index.html

     

    From what I read, you can use server based Calendar and Contacts using ownCloud client apps, or synchronize between your Mac and idvices apps. The latter is the goal of this exercise. Your master calendar/contacts data will reside in your own cloud on your own computer.

     

     

    I will try this when I get back home in three weeks. Meantime any comments, especially those based on the first hand experience would be appreciated. Cheers!

     

    Another question regarding personal Mac install (not a dedicated server) ...

     

    If instead of ownCloud, I would go with Baikal ( http://baikal-server.com/ ) which seems to have even smaller footprint than ownCloud, will MAMP mentioned above provide all web server services including PHP and SQL required by Baikal?

     

    To put it in simple terms … will MAMP and Baikal combination run on a personal Mac running OSX 10.9 (not server)?

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 9, 2013 10:58 AM in response to handsOFFmydata
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    Nov 9, 2013 10:58 AM in response to handsOFFmydata

    You are the one who refuses to accept reality. I suggest you move on.

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 9, 2013 11:14 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 9, 2013 11:14 AM in response to KiltedTim

    I refuse to accept YOUR reality, and I am trying to move on … you are the roadblock. Do you have any technical insight or experience to contribute? If not, get silent … this is a technical forum … your comments are typical of a troll. Good day!

  • by DiederikStaay,

    DiederikStaay DiederikStaay Nov 9, 2013 11:39 AM in response to handsOFFmydata
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    Nov 9, 2013 11:39 AM in response to handsOFFmydata

    I suggest we all just acknowledge the existance of KiltedTim, Snozdog, Petewhatever and the likes of them and  leave them be. We can discuss this while skipping their contributions. Ignore is the way to go.

     

    By the way, some great prospects have come passed. When I have time and the audacity to try I will give it a go. In the meantime I just added some more feedback to Apple the official way. Never hurts to remind them :-)

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Nov 9, 2013 11:39 AM in response to Birthdoula
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    Nov 9, 2013 11:39 AM in response to Birthdoula

    The problem here is that there are 1000's of users that DO NOT have the option to use only iCloud for whatever reason!!!!

    This is the crux of the problem.

    You don't have to use any "cloud." You just have to set up your own CalDAV and CardDAV servers. It doesn't have to be out on the internet. It can exist only within your own home network. That process is not as easy as turning on iCloud, but I imagine someone will create a simple installer to make it almost that easy.

  • by brollyjohn,

    brollyjohn brollyjohn Nov 9, 2013 5:24 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 9, 2013 5:24 PM in response to petermac87

    Are you talking about the online <Edited By Host> that another 250 people signed in less than 24 hours?

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 9, 2013 5:25 PM in response to brollyjohn
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    Nov 9, 2013 5:25 PM in response to brollyjohn

    The what?

     

    Pete

  • by SergeiSteadi,

    SergeiSteadi SergeiSteadi Nov 9, 2013 11:04 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 9, 2013 11:04 PM in response to Gerrit7

    In 1984 Apple was the woman in red shorts , Today Apple is becoming the man on the screen.

    Apple, please don't forget the woman with the hammer.

  • by DiederikStaay,

    DiederikStaay DiederikStaay Nov 10, 2013 12:51 AM in response to SergeiSteadi
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    Nov 10, 2013 12:51 AM in response to SergeiSteadi

    SergeiSteadi wrote:

     

    In 1984 Apple was the woman in red shorts , Today Apple is becoming the man on the screen.

    Apple, please don't forget the woman with the hammer.

    So well put

  • by appid,

    appid appid Nov 10, 2013 2:29 AM in response to jonfromdaleville
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    Nov 10, 2013 2:29 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

    jon from daneville - re NSA "asking" for info ... well thats a good point. That is true in the USA. I live in Australia where there are strong provacy laws.  The European Union has similar privacy laws. These privacy laws mean another Government cannot just "ask" for my data in my country. Whether that Government is the USA, China or Russia.

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