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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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  • by RobertCailliau,

    RobertCailliau RobertCailliau Nov 11, 2013 9:02 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:02 AM in response to KiltedTim

    Then why did they take my post off?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 11, 2013 9:08 AM in response to RobertCailliau
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:08 AM in response to RobertCailliau

    Because you transgressed the terms of use (that you previously agreed to)

  • by ChrisW£,

    ChrisW£ ChrisW£ Nov 11, 2013 9:17 AM in response to ChrisW£
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:17 AM in response to ChrisW£

    If this helps this is what I have done now, having put together advice and hints from others with a little of my own knowledge.

     

    Export each Calendar to a .ics file.

     

    Install OS X Server on Macbbook Pro.

     

    Set up a user on the server called syncuser with associated password.

     

    Limited this user to access only Calendar and Contact services.

     

    In Calendar app on Macbook connect to Calendar service via Preferences>Accounts.

     

    In the left hand pane of Calendar there will now be an OS X Server section. Create a calendar to match each of your 'ON My Mac' calendars and import the relevant .ics file into each.

     

    On the iPhone in settings>mail,contacts,calendars create a calendars account and enter the syncuser details. There should now be duplicate events if you elected to keep the original data on the iPhone. At the bottom of the screen there are now 3 links:- Today   Calendars   Inbox. I don't remember theses being there before.

    If you navigate to a date other than today, touching Today takes you straight back to today.

    Touching Calendars lets you choose which calendars to use, turn off the display of those 'From My PC' and you will be left with only the events synchronised from your mac.

     

     

    Now in Contacts>Preferences>Accounts on the Mac create a contacts account using syncuser credentials again.

    In the left hand pane of Contacts there will be an 'All OS X Server' section. The instructions I found (Ithink they were pre-Mavericks) said select all contacts in 'All On My Mac' and drag them to 'All on OS X Server' THIS DOES NOT WORK. Iinstead, go back to Contacts>Preferences>Accounts and create another contacts account just like before. This will create an 'All servername.home' section in the left pane and you CAN drag contacts to this.

     

    I think the first one logs in to the server and exposes the services available and the second one connects to the contacts service.

     

    Finally, back to the iPhone in settings>mail,contacts,calendars create a contacts account, you can keep the local data again, and in Contacts>Groups turn off 'All on My Phone'.

     

    That's it.

     

    A suggestion for those who live away from access to internet services or who travel a lot, obtain a small wifi router and set up access to it from each of your devices, I would also limit access to it to the MAC address of each of your devices. You should now be able to sync locally over wifi wherever you are, you don't need to connect it to broadband. It's a pain having to carry another piece of kit rather than a cable but at least they are small and if I am correct that this would work it solves the problem of local sync.

     

    Good Luck

     

    Chris.

  • by RobertCailliau,

    RobertCailliau RobertCailliau Nov 11, 2013 9:22 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:22 AM in response to Csound1

    Should have been: "How come they took my post off?"

    They only did that because someone or something at Apple is reading these threads.

  • by WH,

    WH WH Nov 11, 2013 9:28 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:28 AM in response to Gerrit7

    This thread is dedicated to whining people.

    Others, who are not concerned about future data secrecy and surveillance, about changing laws for better

    control of citizens may simply stay away and open a new thread for how to manage a Server.

    We, the whining people like to talk about ggod old times, when we simply plugged in a cable and pushed synchronize.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 11, 2013 9:41 AM in response to RobertCailliau
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:41 AM in response to RobertCailliau

    RobertCailliau wrote:

     

    Should have been: "How come they took my post off?"

    They only did that because someone or something at Apple is reading these threads.

    No, that's because someone (multiple people, actually) reported your TOS violations.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 11, 2013 9:43 AM in response to RobertCailliau
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:43 AM in response to RobertCailliau

    RobertCailliau wrote:

     

    Should have been: "How come they took my post off?"

    They only did that because someone or something at Apple is reading these threads.

    Obviously the Moderators read the threads, how could they do their job otherwise.

     

    The problem is posters who, after agreeing to the Terms of Use for the site find that they are unable to keep their word. Maybe they find that they disagree with the Terms. Maybe their word is not trustworthy,? But, instead of ceasing to post they just continue until the moderators exercise their right to remove any post that transgresses the rules.

     

    It's quite simple really.

  • by doctorsuess,

    doctorsuess doctorsuess Nov 11, 2013 10:56 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 11, 2013 10:56 AM in response to Gerrit7

    I have been an internet user since 1969 and an Apple user since ~1991. I have several apple devices. I have always chosen to store nothing in iCloud or anywhere else online, just because it makes no sense for me. The only reason (besides brand loyalty) that I purchased an iPhone is that I could sync my contacts and calendar between my laptop/desktop and iPhone/iPad. This leaves me with a problem, since I can no longer locally sync between devices. I am hoping Apple offers a solution in the near future. I guess I will try syncing by hand for the time being. It will be a major disappointment and very inconvenient if I have to eventually sync via iCloud.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Nov 11, 2013 11:29 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 11, 2013 11:29 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Obviously the Moderators read the threads, how could they do their job otherwise.

     

    Actually, they rarely do. They rely, as Tim pointed out, on reports from members who are Level 2 and above.

  • by macogif,

    macogif macogif Nov 11, 2013 11:30 AM in response to doctorsuess
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    Nov 11, 2013 11:30 AM in response to doctorsuess

    I have the same concern.  I do not want to share contact data with a "cloud" environment.  The previous version of the OS worked perfectly - syncing contacts across all my devices to my MacBook Pro - and Calendar and other aps to iCloud.  Apple needs to redress this problem and restore the approach used previously.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Nov 11, 2013 11:37 AM in response to macogif
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    Nov 11, 2013 11:37 AM in response to macogif

    macogif wrote:

     

    I have the same concern.  I do not want to share contact data with a "cloud" environment.

    You do not have to use a "cloud" environment. You must use a CalDAV and CardDAV server, but that does not have to be a "cloud." It can be on your own Mac, safely walled up behind your router.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 11, 2013 11:46 AM in response to doctorsuess
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    Nov 11, 2013 11:46 AM in response to doctorsuess

    doctorsuess wrote:

     

    I have been an internet user since 1969

    By the end of 1969, there were exactly 4 notes on what was then the ARPANET. There were a handful of people with access to any of them at the time.

     

    Please, tell us, which location were you in, and what was your position at the institution where the computer you used was located? Personally, I suspect you're full of bull excrement.

     

    I have always chosen to store nothing in iCloud or anywhere else online, just because it makes no sense for me. The only reason (besides brand loyalty) that I purchased an iPhone is that I could sync my contacts and calendar between my laptop/desktop and iPhone/iPad....

    Your statement that using iCloud makes no sense for you makes no sense.  It accomplishes exactly what you want to do, which is sync contacts and calendar between all of your devices, and it does so with absolutely 0 intervention by you once it's set up. You don't ever have to plug the phone back into your computer again. Or the iPad.

  • by 伊藤R,

    伊藤R 伊藤R Nov 11, 2013 11:49 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 11, 2013 11:49 AM in response to Gerrit7

    Surely users like snozdop, petermac87, Meg St._Clair and KiltedTim are not to be taken serious and I agree with everybody who suggests to ignore them. Unfortunately the Bad Fruit has equipped such users with the right to report the posts of those who object Apple's policy - be it for the sake of usability, privacy or both.

     

    Apple does remove "unpleasant posts" (reported by Apple's henchman in this forum) as well as established features in their software. While we can only speculate about the reasons for this, it should be clear that Apple is not interested in improving the security of its products but it rather does try to sell stylish, overprized hardware to a broader public.

     

    As for me, I have made my decision in such that I will not buy any Apple products anymore. As I have said before, it is not about this missing feature; it is about the way that Apple chose to go. I accept their decision.

     

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  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Nov 11, 2013 11:53 AM in response to 伊藤R
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    Nov 11, 2013 11:53 AM in response to 伊藤R

    伊藤R wrote:

     

    ] Unfortunately the Bad Fruit has equipped such users with the right to report the posts of those who object Apple's policy - be it for the sake of usability, privacy or both.

    Anyone Level 2 or above can report. To get to Level 2, you have to have helped your fellow users enough that they award you points. Rising in levels is solely at the discretion of other users.

  • by James Richards,

    James Richards James Richards Nov 11, 2013 12:06 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 11, 2013 12:06 PM in response to Gerrit7

    It is clear to me that it is possible to establish syncing locally without going outside one's own home, and without internet access. I am bugged by the fact that the previous service has gone without any user focussed warning, but I am keen to find a way of solving the problem. My guess is that a CalDav and CardDav server hosted on my own Mac can be set upt to sync with my iPhone either on a Computer-to-Computer (ad hoc) network or via my own home LAN. The trouble is I am not network/Apache savvy enough to use it.

     

    I am reluctant to fork out an additional amount for the Mavericks server as I don't have any other foreseeable need for it, but Mavericks comes with Apache pre-loaded and there is a very light, simple and free open source CalDav and CardDav server in Baïkal. The trouble is I am not apache/network savvy enough to make use of it, and basically I am stumbling along in the near dark with terminal.

     

    There are some good resources for setting up Apache and for setting up Virtual Hosts which would host my personal 'cloud', and Baïkal also comes with setup guides as well. The trouble is, I don't quite have enough knowledge to marry the two together. Is there anyone contributing to or watching this thread who has the know-how to do a proper step by step guide for running Baïkal on Apache as installed in the Mavericks OS, and setting up a local 'cloud'.

     

    AFAICT the problem with the resources I have found is that the Apache stuff I've found doesn't particularly focus on running Baïkal, and the Baïkal documentation is not specific to Apache on Mavericks. Is there anyone out there who can give me some help with this?

     

    I am aware that there is a certain amount of heat on this thread, and maybe I might be better off starting a new thread, but this really is the obvious place to try and get hodl of the information I need.

     

    Can anyone help - please?

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