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Q: iPhoto 9.5 dropped Mac-to-Mac sharing?

I just installed the latest OSX Mavericks update and iPhoto '11 9.5 and it appears that the old Mac-to-Mac sharing is gone! I don't see a Sharing tab on Preferences any more and none of our other Macs running iPhoto are listed in the sidebar.

 

If it's really gone, I wonder what Apple expects people to use instead? iCloud doesn't do the job because it's only the last 1000 photos (at best), so you can't see old photos.

iPhoto '11, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 4:06 PM

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  • by Triangle Feldenkrais,

    Triangle Feldenkrais Triangle Feldenkrais Nov 11, 2014 9:29 PM in response to LarryHN
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    Nov 11, 2014 9:29 PM in response to LarryHN

    LarryHN do you work for Apple?   Is your reply an official Apple response?   Your posting sounds like you know all the answers and that what we want and had from iPhoto before are bull to you.   So -- are you speaking for Apple officially?  Or are you just saying what morons we are for saying what we want and we're upset that Apple downgraded a capability in a new release?

  • by Triangle Feldenkrais,

    Triangle Feldenkrais Triangle Feldenkrais Nov 11, 2014 9:32 PM in response to batucaves
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    Nov 11, 2014 9:32 PM in response to batucaves

    #3 -- if I have computers connected to my local wired and secured wifi network at home and I have a firewall up at the interface to the Internet, why wouldn't it be safe to share content between the computers in the house?  You get a big "Huh?" from me on that one LarryHN.  What are you preaching about as far as a security vulnerability?

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Nov 11, 2014 9:57 PM in response to Triangle Feldenkrais
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    Nov 11, 2014 9:57 PM in response to Triangle Feldenkrais

    HuH???

     

    No I do not work for Apple - I am an iphoto user and actually understand how it works

     

    If you actually have a coherent question about iphoto please start a new thread and post it

     

    And your personal attacks are out of line and unnecessary - this forum is to HELP people use iphoto the way it is - it is not about how it could be or might be - it is only  how it IS!

     

    Have a nice night - and hope you feel better in the morning

     

    LN

  • by Barry Johns,

    Barry Johns Barry Johns Jan 4, 2015 10:52 AM in response to LarryHN
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    Jan 4, 2015 10:52 AM in response to LarryHN

    Well all I can say, this just plain *****. My wife does not have the techno savy relationship with computers and OS' as I do, so sharing libraries worked for her.  This is just stupid. I'm a long time apple fan, but this version of iPhoto is terrible, iTunes also *****, horrible implementation and out of touch with their customers.

  • by bold_seagull,

    bold_seagull bold_seagull Mar 9, 2015 2:53 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Mar 9, 2015 2:53 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    So for a home user for a LAN of Macs, can 1 Mac have a central iPhoto Library on it, then through file sharing, iPhoto on other machines select that library so that each iPhoto on each machine can effectively use the same Library?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 9, 2015 3:20 AM in response to bold_seagull
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    Mar 9, 2015 3:20 AM in response to bold_seagull
    So for a home user for a LAN of Macs, can 1 Mac have a central iPhoto Library on it, then through file sharing, iPhoto on other machines select that library so that each iPhoto on each machine can effectively use the same Library?

     

    No!

    An iPhoto Library needs to be on a locally mounted drive. iPhoto has not been designed for network access, and you are risking database inconsistencies and dataloss by trying to access an iPhoto library via a network.

     

    The new Photos.app, that will come with the MacOS X 10.10.3 update will support a photo library in iCloud for sharing across all devices.

     

     

     

    See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203786

     

    Additionally, storing the iPhoto library on a network rather than locally on your computer can also lead to poor performance or data loss.

    iPhoto libraries should be stored on a locally mounted Mac OS X Extended drive for best performance.

  • by ChrisRR,

    ChrisRR ChrisRR Mar 9, 2015 3:27 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 9, 2015 3:27 AM in response to léonie

    On the contrary, I have my 180 gig iPhoto library situated on my Time Machine Capsule, in a dedicated folder called "Photos" and it works perfectly well. My 4 iMacs connect to it flawlessly and have been doing so from the moment I first set it up. It's important to note that I do not use the TM Capsule for backups, or Time Machine functions, but purely as a wirelessly connected Hard Drive. It works perfectly.

     

    Also, contrary to information on this site, I have my iTunes Library situated on the TM Capsule and connected wirelessly to all my Macs, and that, too works like a dream.

     

    Easy to set up, but watch that all your Macs are running the same version of iPhoto!

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 9, 2015 3:41 AM in response to ChrisRR
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    Mar 9, 2015 3:41 AM in response to ChrisRR
    Also, contrary to information on this site, I have my iTunes Library situated on the TM Capsule and connected wirelessly to all my Macs, and that, too works like a dream.

    You have been very lucky.  The protocol of the internal database files has no protection against synchronization errors and the Apple developer team advises against it, as Apple's support article shows. The same goes for Aperture. Both iPhoto and Aperture are single user applications to be used only on locally mounted volumes.

  • by bold_seagull,

    bold_seagull bold_seagull Mar 9, 2015 3:49 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 9, 2015 3:49 AM in response to léonie

    That would make sense other than all previous versions of iPhoto allowed you to 'home share' and iPhoto library across a network.

     

    Seems like the dropping of the home share facility is just a ploy to make us use iCloud instead....

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 9, 2015 4:00 AM in response to bold_seagull
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    Mar 9, 2015 4:00 AM in response to bold_seagull
    That would make sense other than all previous versions of iPhoto allowed you to 'home share' and iPhoto library across a network.

    Home sharing only allowed you to browse the library based on the preview images, but you could not write modifications to the library. But the recent iPhoto versions require write access to an iPhoto Library, even if you only want to browse it and not edit the phots.

  • by bold_seagull,

    bold_seagull bold_seagull Mar 9, 2015 4:17 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 9, 2015 4:17 AM in response to léonie

    Good point, but was a really useful feature. There must have been some motivation to drop it.

  • by ChrisRR,

    ChrisRR ChrisRR Mar 9, 2015 4:23 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 9, 2015 4:23 AM in response to léonie

    Well, there's Luck, and there's being organised and prepared for every eventuality isn't there? I'm of the latter philosophy and would always advise anyone who owns precious data, like photographs, to be backed up - always. I make a Carbon Copy clone of all my drives on a regualr (mostly daily) basis, largely as Time Machine also has a habit of corrupting data and letting you down when you need it most. The only (almost) totally reliable form of easily-maintained and useable backup, is a clone of the drive.

     

    The simple fact is, that Apple have removed - yet again - a very important and very well liked feature when they introduced their latest offering. We can argue all day long about alternatives and their merits, but the essence of this whole thread is that Apple have done it again. They removed a feature or features that push users into an undesirable situation that is entirely avoidable. So now we wait for either an alternative, or a workaround to ameliorate a situation brought about by Apple.

     

    Debating the ins & outs of the technicalities of what it did and how it did it gets nobody nowhere apart from strokes to know-it-alls' egos. Please provide us with a tangible, workable alternative to sharing libraries across a home network. If there isn't one, give us details of applications that do, or leave the discussion to people who can help in a way that moves us forward.

     

    Many thanks.

  • by ChrisRR,

    ChrisRR ChrisRR Mar 9, 2015 4:25 AM in response to bold_seagull
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    Mar 9, 2015 4:25 AM in response to bold_seagull

    "a ploy to make us use iCloud instead...."

     

    ...of that, there is no doubt.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Mar 9, 2015 4:21 PM in response to ChrisRR
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    Mar 9, 2015 4:21 PM in response to ChrisRR
    On the contrary, I have my 180 gig iPhoto library situated on my Time Machine Capsule, in a dedicated folder called "Photos" and it works perfectly well. My 4 iMacs connect to it flawlessly and have been doing so from the moment I first set it up. It's important to note that I do not use the TM Capsule for backups, or Time Machine functions, but purely as a wirelessly connected Hard Drive. It works perfectly.

     

    For the Benefit of other who might read this thread.

     

    Apple: on the subject of Libraries on network connections:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5168

     

    Note the comment:

     

    “Additionally, storing the iPhoto library on a network rather than locally on your computer can also lead to poor performance or data loss.”

  • by ChrisRR,

    ChrisRR ChrisRR Mar 10, 2015 12:55 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Mar 10, 2015 12:55 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    I think we all now know what the 'advice' from Apple is in terms of what NOT to do, but if any of us comes across an app that does what iPhoto did, that would be extremely helpful.

    I have been using Shoebox; http://shoeboxapp.com/pricing, which is excellent in that you have unlimited storage at the free level, and for $5 a month you get to store full resolution. However, there's no edit facility like iPhoto had.

     

    I am very aware of the advice Apple has thoughtfully given out about "data loss' and "poor performance" when using network connected libraries. Bearing that advice in mind, I am making backups daily, just in case. The convenience of having a central library of photos and tunes is superb. I'm surprised some garage business in California hasn't thought of it already?

     

    I would advise all who venture down the same path as me, to NOT do so unless they are prepared to lose all their data on their network drive. For me it's a venture that I'm hoping will defy the advice, but I'm underwritten by a backup policy. You have been warned.

     

    (There's also the notion that not all advice given out is the truth. Anyone who had display problems with their PowerBook Pro/MacBook Pro, or Wi-Fi problems with several products, motherboard problems, connectivity problems et al, and were told over and over again that "it was unheard of", or "affected only a handful of customers" will know what I'm talking about).

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