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  • debsquared Level 1 (0 points)

    Hence why I said for me, they're more cons as opposed to pros. The OS has left me with a lot of problems. Part of the reason why I've been sticking with Snow Leopard was because I can't afford to keep upgrading OS and when this came as a free upgrade, I thought it was worth a shot. I tried it but my Macbook Pro was left performing much worst than it usually does. I have a friend who's upgraded to Mavericks and she loves it which I can understand because the improvements were much to her liking and preference. However for me, it was very inconvenient and like you said, a lot of software has been rendered useless unless I fork out money to upgrade those as well which I can't. But I do appreciate your input of it and who knows, maybe when Apple releases more updates to fix the kinks and glitches Mavericks is currently experiencing, I might consider switching back. For the time being, I very much more content staying with Snow Leopard.

  • debsquared Level 1 (0 points)

    Hi Emma. I had the same problem as you. My MBP is early-mid2010 and it suffered a heavy hit in performance. If you have backed up your computer when it was still in OS X 10.6.8 using Time Machine you can easily restore it back to its orginal state following these instructions:


    They're for restoring back from Mountain Lion, but I tried it yesterday and it worked just fine. Good luck!

  • LeafsMac Level 1 (20 points)

    This will be of some assistance:


    It lists compatible and incompatible software. Vectorworks 2008 is shown as incompatible. 2009 and later is. If something works in ML, it will most likely work in Mavericks.

  • Level 1 (40 points)

    I can't help you with the scrolling (you can change th trackpad's natural scrolling, not sure about the mouse) nor the labels (never used 'em).

    I'm also not sure what you mean with Folder sizes at the bottom of the Finder?


    Maybe I can help you with the the high-CPU usage, though:

    - usually, after an OS update, the system will re-index your whole disk. Depending on the amount of data you have present on the disk (and the speed+size of the disk), this can take a couple minutes up to some Hours. This will only happen once, though. The re-index is simply a method of organizing data so that the computer can find files (and text inside files) really fast when you use Spotlight (the search icon on the top right of the screen).


    A way to check if the Spotlight is re-indexing, is to just wrote something in that search bar, and it will indicate that Spotlight is indeed reindexing your disk. If this is the case, this is completely normal, just let it finish, and the CPU usage should drop. =)


    I'd give Mavericks a chance, it has a better memory management (more free memory! \o/) and better battery management (so it lasts longer! \o/) - you can even check battery hogs easily: if you click on your battery icon, your currently open Apps that are using significant memory will be listed there =)


    Also, Safari is a lot more speedy, while Flash has finally been sandboxed, which means added security for your Mac! =) Which is always good!

  • Emma.Claire Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks LeafsMac for the heads up about, I'll be using it in the future for sure (if I ever upgrade again!).


    Thanks debsquared for your advice, just to clarify - can you reinstal from the time machine back up without using the original installation discs? and what about all the software thats on my MBP, will that all be there on the time machine back up too? Im sure I read somewhere that nothing on a time machine that used an OS that was before Lion could be reinstalled in this way...

  • debsquared Level 1 (0 points)

    When you back up your MBP with Time Machine, it backs up the entire thing including your softwares etc. So you don't have to worry about it. I was also told that it's risky to try restoring any OS before Lion but when I got on Restore Mode following the instructions I linked you, I was asked to plug-in my Time Machine drive, and from there I got a list of backups I wanted to restore my hdd to. Of course, you select the most recent backup you have. Wait a few hours depending on the size of your drive (mine took about 4 hours) and you are more or less set. From my experience, it was like I never upgraded in the first place. Everything was in tact and the software which was rendered useless on Mavericks was useable again. After that, I also made sure to go on Disk Utility and verified the disk and its permissions too just in case.

  • Emma.Claire Level 1 (0 points)

    Debsquared - thanks for the reassurance, I shall follow the instructions in the link you posted and report back here on how sucessful it was tomorrow!

  • Emma.Claire Level 1 (0 points)


    Reverted back to 10.6.8 with no issues in under an hour using a Time Machine backup and the instructions suggested by Debsquared:



    Thanks for all the help, hope the rest of you unhappy Mavericks customers are able to revert sucessfully too!

  • ds store Level 7 (30,325 points)
  • putnik Level 3 (780 points)

    I am pleased your problem resolved.  Before any other attempt to upgrade to Mavericks, get your software up-to-date.  I think you will need to eventually for security and maintenance updates.  I really like the new OS and I am sure you would have too, if you had done a little homework first.

  • tbirdvet Level 4 (2,880 points)

    Parallels 8 will wotk with Mavericks but you need to be sure you have the latest P8 release.

  • myFavouriteApple Level 1 (0 points)

    You have to give yourself a chance to get used to the whole new feel. The scrolling drove me batty as well but was easily fixed. Just went to mouse preference and unchecked scroll direction: natural, leaving other options unchecked and voila! the scrolling reversed to my liking. The bigger problem I have is that my HP 8000 printer does not seem to be communicating with Mavericks. I'll give it a day or so to see if any updater becomes available. Other than that, it's just a matter of getting used to the new look and feel. I wouldn't take a chance on downgrading and why would you want to? This is a definite improvement over Snow Leopard.

  • Kalsta Level 1 (25 points)

    Everyone has their own reasons for liking or not liking something… so completely cool if you want to use Snow Leopard. But what I would say is, unless you absolutely depend on outdated PowerPC software (which requires Rosetta software to run on Intel Macs and is not supported after Snow Leopard), give Mavericks a chance. Two of Debsquared's four complaints—reverse, or so-called 'natural' scrolling, and the lack of Finder Status Bar—were both things he could easily have changed with a few minutes of investigation, or just by asking more experienced users.


    I was slow to move away from Snow Leopard too, because I depend on a number of very old programs, so I understand Emma Claire's situation. But there were also some compelling reasons to upgrade to Mountain Lion, notably iCloud and all its benefits, so I made it possible by running those old apps on a second Mac—an old G5 iMac. Obviously, that solution won't work for everyone. It's something of an inconvenience to switch to that Mac for some things, but I'm glad I did it. And eventually I accept that the world moves on and I'll need to find new solutions to replace those very old PowerPC programs eventually.


    I'd also recommend giving 'Natural Scrolling' a chance. Of course it's unnatural when you start, because your brain has its very well-worn paths for accomplishing this without having to think about it. It takes some conscious effort initially to retrain your brain, but within a few days I had made the switch. From there I could try both and make a more objective choice about what seemed more natural or logical to me. I decided the new way was more logical. The way I see it now is you're pushing the page in the direction you want it to go, rather than pushing a control which represents your field of vision, and that makes a lot of sense—after all, it's not your head or your screen that is moving, but the page.


    Regarding Finder Tags, it's important to understand what Apple has actually done here. While the feature looks a lot like the old Finder labels when you apply them, it's not the same. The new tagging system allows you to apply multiple tags to the one document. This is something many of us have been wanting for YEARS on the Mac, and it's a very, very good thing! It opens up so much potential for organising your files in new and creative ways. But the drawback, if you want to call it that, is that with multiple tags applied to the one file or folder, it no longer makes sense to colour the whole icon. Apple has opted for small dots, which I quite like, but I can understand that it doesn't cut it when you want something to really stand out. Overall though, I think the power of tagging over the very old labelling system makes it a worthwhile improvement.


    As for wild fan noises or (sluggish responsiveness if you're getting that), it may just be Spotlight indexing things, but if it persists I'd be reporting that to Apple. It may be a problem that a software update needs to fix. Remember, we're on a first major release here and it's not unusual for bugs to surface early.

  • David Bullock Level 1 (0 points)

    I am unlikely to stick with Mac after this botched upgrade. This is as bad if not worse than the poorest MS upgrade. I am really angry because I paid a premium when buying Mac to have a system that didn't need endless troubleshooting.

  • LeafsMac Level 1 (20 points)

    Like with any major OS uograde -- Mac, Windows or Linux -- it's always best not to be the first to upgrade and always have a full backup that can restore everything back the way it was. I was a little worried, as I have alway had a disk or disk image to work with rather than a live downloadable upgrade. Even with incremental updates, I do not go through the App Store. It's always a download and installation via Safe Mode.


    If you want to be first out of the box, fine, but every software upgrade or update brings risks.


    That said, even though my vintage 2008 MBPro runs a little slow with ML and Mavericks, the positives outweigh the negatives. I own 4 Windows computers but I sure don't trust them like I do this Mac.