John Dorsey

Q: Mavericks Finder - how default to "double click opens new window"?

I am old and set in my ways.  I like having the Finder open a new window when I double click a folder.  Since 1984 I've arranged Finder windows in positions and sizes that suit me and I have never seen any reason to change.

 

In Mavericks however there does not seem to be a way to default to, "double click opens new Finder window".  My choices under Finder preferences are, open in the same window; or open in a tab.  I don't care for either.

 

Does anyone know of a way to restore the traditional Finder behavior in Mavericks?  Thanks in advance.

Mac Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9), 18 GB RAM

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 5:54 PM

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  • by Adam Woodhams,

    Adam Woodhams Adam Woodhams Nov 30, 2013 1:48 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 30, 2013 1:48 PM in response to petermac87

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    15 years ago Apple were not even using Intel chips. What you are saying is ridiculous. Have you actually read what you have posted?

     

     

     

    Likewise...

     

    Have you nothing better to do than troll?

    Perhaps you should just leave the grown-ups to have a dialogue.

  • by romeup,

    romeup romeup Nov 30, 2013 1:50 PM in response to Adam Meath
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    Nov 30, 2013 1:50 PM in response to Adam Meath

    some have reported that the Mavericks Finder (as with Lion and Mountain Lion) can often 'forget' those settings and default the folders back to the standard window size and position

     

    Often? Try day in day in, in my Macs since Lion. From the launch of Lion the OS X experience has been always downhill. Each version worse. And now no new window when opening a folder?? Seriosly?

     

    One man does make a difrence...

  • by Alex Geis,

    Alex Geis Alex Geis Nov 30, 2013 1:50 PM in response to Adam Woodhams
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    Nov 30, 2013 1:50 PM in response to Adam Woodhams

    Concur... you beat me to the troll comment.

    petermac87, check the terms and conditions for the term "flame".

  • by PlotinusVeritas,

    PlotinusVeritas PlotinusVeritas Nov 30, 2013 2:01 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 30, 2013 2:01 PM in response to petermac87

    petermac87

     

    Please refrain from keeping others from having an intelligent, civil, and harmonious discussion on the topic.

     

    It against the terms of use to act as a Gatekeeper to civil discussions of others to others in any thread.

     

    Work any problem in the thread if possible

     

    1. contribute to problem solving

    2. if no answer, help others find alternatives

    3. respect another's users right to comment and ask question of and to others.

    4. elevate yourself and others as dignity implores humans to help and aid others.

    5. If there is disagreement on any point, politely state what you find is the correct empirical answer to a topic.

     

    6. Do not engage in sophistic debate,... whose purpose is 'debate for sake of debate'. 

     

    All civil debates are for purpose of solving problems and directing oneself and others to truths and solving problems. Debate is healthy if civil, respectful and directed at solving a problem or an alternative.

     

    As the Greeks implored, you should not rightly attempt to "elevate yourself by digging deep holes under the feet of others"

     

    Peace.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 30, 2013 2:00 PM in response to Alex Geis
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    Nov 30, 2013 2:00 PM in response to Alex Geis

    Have done. I'm all good. You have attempted to deviate attention away from that last ridiculous post, but it is there for all to see.

     

    Pete

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 30, 2013 2:01 PM in response to PlotinusVeritas
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    Nov 30, 2013 2:01 PM in response to PlotinusVeritas

    PlotinusVeritas wrote:

     

     

    Thanks for the excellent advice. But I'll be fine thank you. You stay to your WD Novellas.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by WH,

    WH WH Dec 1, 2013 12:34 AM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 1, 2013 12:34 AM in response to petermac87

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    15 years ago Apple were not even using Intel chips. What you are saying is ridiculous.

     

    Pete, your comment ridiculous. Sorry to use that word, but I have copied yours.

    The UI change has nothing to do with the processor.

    The only thing to talk about is usability  and that has nothing to do with the age of a system or processor.

    From my point of view, Apple made an error, not to do a switch in the finder preferences, to allow users

    to select the way of prefered usage of the OSX filesystem.

    But by the way, if you switch off the finder toolbar, you can open folders in different windows.

    Without using the command key.

    But, in this case, you have to change this setting in every underlaying folder.

    This works, but in my eyes it is really bad developement, or who knows, maybe completely a bug.

    If Apple wants to really cut that feature "folders in seperate windows" ,

    why they allow it, when toolbar setting is off ?

    If this is a real Apple decision, it is an extremely bad one. My opinion.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 1, 2013 12:37 AM in response to WH
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    Dec 1, 2013 12:37 AM in response to WH

    WH wrote:

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    15 years ago Apple were not even using Intel chips. What you are saying is ridiculous.

     

    Pete, your comment ridiculous. Sorry to use that word, but I have copied yours.

    The UI change has nothing to do with the processor.

     

    Why do no PPC programs work with out Rosetta in 10.6 and not at all in 10.7 10.8 and 10.9? Try running an old 'Classic' application (OS6 - 7 - 8 - or 9) from pre-OSX days.

     

    Why do you think they may no longer work?

     

    Pete

  • by WH,

    WH WH Dec 1, 2013 12:50 AM in response to John Dorsey
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    Dec 1, 2013 12:50 AM in response to John Dorsey

    Because sometimes design changes are necessary.

    Maybe hardware is not longer available, or an old  code is not longer supported.

     

    But this is not the case here.

    It is really unimportant to the code and to the processor and to the age and system number.

     

    This is simply a decision, like changing a color, that hurts many users.

    There is no technical reason to do so.

  • by Alex Geis,

    Alex Geis Alex Geis Dec 1, 2013 12:47 AM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 1, 2013 12:47 AM in response to petermac87

    Classic/PPC has to do with executable code designed for that processor. UI/UX (user interface/user experience) is the design aspect of how said code is utilized and presented graphically to the end user. The concept of opening a window in the finder existed in the 80s and exists today regardless of processor type. The fact that it doesnt open with a double click or the option to set it so it does so has nothing to do with the compiler execution.. it has to do with the fact that some UI/UX Apple developer told some Apple programmer to remove the code or destructively alter it from the source, not that it doesn't function on an Intel chip.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 1, 2013 12:55 AM in response to WH
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    Dec 1, 2013 12:55 AM in response to WH

    WH wrote:

     

     

    This is simply a decision, like changing a color, that hurts many users.

    There is no technical reason to do so.

     

     

    Changes to UI happen every OSX. Some will always be unhappy with them. It is not I advancing the hardware and therefore the software. Apple have done this in every OSX ever released. This times it happens to be Double Clicking not opening a new window. In Lion it was the Bounce function. Then the coloured sidebar icons. I do not know why these things are dropped. Neither does anybody else in this thread. It is all opinions. As mentioned a hundred times, contact Apple.

     

    Pete

  • by WH,

    WH WH Dec 1, 2013 1:05 AM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 1, 2013 1:05 AM in response to petermac87

    Now youre right !

    But Rosetta was a bad comparision.

    My reply was only, cause you rate other users coment as ridiculous.

     

    In this discussion forum we discuss everything, Things we like, things we do not

    understand, things we explain, thing we dont like, etc-.

    I already contacted Apple. Nevertheless, I like to discuss with others, who feel the same.

    It is not important to me, if you mention 100 times, sorry.

    Not in this thread, and not in others.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 1, 2013 1:06 AM in response to WH
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    Dec 1, 2013 1:06 AM in response to WH

    Good Luck.

     

    Pete

  • by WH,

    WH WH Dec 1, 2013 1:25 AM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 1, 2013 1:25 AM in response to petermac87

    thanks

    WH

  • by macxpert,

    macxpert macxpert Dec 12, 2013 8:39 PM in response to John Dorsey
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    Dec 12, 2013 8:39 PM in response to John Dorsey

    Passable solution for keyboard users with the same basic issue (wanting command-down arrow to open folders in a new window):

     

    Step 1: go to System Preferences, Keyboard, Shortcuts tab

    Step 2: click App Shortcuts on the left and the "+" symbol on the right

    Step 3: select "Finder" in the Application list, type in "Open in New Window" in the Menu Title box, and in the Keyboard Shortcut box press the apple/command key and the down arrow key together, then click "Add".

     

    That will solve the problem for opening folders via keyboard, however it has the side effect of preventing use of command-down arrow to open files (docs, apps, etc...) since "Open in New Window" isn't applicable to those things.  command-"o" is always available still.  you could opt to do the opposite here and make command-o your "Open in New Window" setting if you prefer the down arrow for opening files.

     

    For mouse users, there may be something doable, possibly in concert with the above suggestion, using a third party mouse driver like SteerMouse (and no, I have no connection to them, just found a reference to it in a thread similar to this about wanting the mouse click to perform a key command instead):

    https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/19058/steermouse

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