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Q: Os X Mavericks Finder Problem

Finder is completely glitching out for no reason. First of all, when I click icon view, none of my icons appear. Also, when I clikck the normal organized folder view, none of my folders are clickable. This is really frustrating! I have restarted my computer, restarted finder, and repaired disk permissions, but this keeps happening! I thought Mavericks was supposed to be a better operating system. Is there anything I can do to fix this? 

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 7:05 PM

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  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 9, 2013 10:58 AM in response to digorydoo
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    Dec 9, 2013 10:58 AM in response to digorydoo

    Use h

    The backup you made before installing Mavericks to revert to your previous system. If the problems are still there, then it is either your hardware or something else you have installed. If it is all good then you simply don't update to Mavericks again until they update it to your liking. Was there any reason you thought you were forced to update?

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Cristinaimad,

    Cristinaimad Cristinaimad Dec 9, 2013 11:15 AM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 9, 2013 11:15 AM in response to petermac87

    "Was there any reason you thought you were forced to update?" by Petermac87

     

     

    What difference does it make why anyone installed the update or not?

    I don't think anyone here who is unhappy to a certain degree or another felt there was a gun to their head the moment they agreed to update.  It has become common practice for Mac users to want to upgrade their OS in hopes of new and better functionallity. 

    I agree with others that have not had a flawless transition into Mavericks.  In my case it was much faster for the first days or two.  The power button only blacks the screen and doesn't give me the options of powering down.  The worst problem I have had was with the finder and the horrible changes to iWork software.  If for some of us (a whole lot of people), Mavericks is not the upgrade we expected then surely it must be something we installed or even hardware. In any case, these forums are intended to let others know of any problems associated with apple products.  To find that many people experience the same kind of problems due to Mavericks is a good thing, because it narrows down the issues that should be fixed before the next release of OS update that ought to be to our liking. 

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 9, 2013 11:27 AM in response to Cristinaimad
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    Dec 9, 2013 11:27 AM in response to Cristinaimad

    Using the correct feedback channels helps. Not posting here. Many others here have reverted to their previous OSXs instead of ranting like a child. If you wish to use your flawed install of Mavericks instead then that is your choice. Otherwise try troubleshooting it or live with it.

     

    Good luck

     

    Pete

  • by Lonny Eachus,

    Lonny Eachus Lonny Eachus Dec 9, 2013 11:44 AM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 9, 2013 11:44 AM in response to petermac87

    With all due respect, sir, this forum is intended for the Apple community to help each other with issues concerning Apple products. The problems mentioned in this thread are confirmed and very troubling to those who experience them.

     

    It is comments like yours, to the effect of "Live with it and quit ********", which are actually inappropriate and unhelpful.

  • by Cristinaimad,

    Cristinaimad Cristinaimad Dec 9, 2013 11:41 AM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 9, 2013 11:41 AM in response to petermac87

    Notice that in my previous response I wasn't actually asking for any assistance to the issues I have experienced with Mavericks.  I simply found you to be patronizing to another user and thought you could use a little correcting in your manners.  In what you directed to me, troubleshooting or living with Mavericks is anyone's choice and goes without being said.   For many people, the so-called correct feedback channels are used in parallel to discussing issues in the forum.  It is also common practice for others to seek guidance via forums in hopes  they are not alone. And surely, considering the immediate concern one can feel when your Mac is acting up, it is normal for people to need to vent. If you feel that people here are ranting like children, then maybe you should also observe your  tone/choice phrasing to some folk here.  You seem to give advice which is helpful, while behaving condescending to others in the meantime.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 9, 2013 11:48 AM in response to Lonny Eachus
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    Dec 9, 2013 11:48 AM in response to Lonny Eachus

    Lonny Eachus wrote:

     

    With all due respect, sir, this forum is intended for the Apple community to help each other about issues whith Apple products. The problems mentioned in this thread are confirmed and very troubling to those who experience them.

     

    It is comments like yours, to the effect of "Live with it and quit ********", which are actually inappropriate and unhelpful.

    And most try to troubleshoot their problems, which is what the Forums are here for. Not to whinge and claim everyone has your issue. If you have no help to offer or no wish to try fixing your system (which by the way you should be doing in your own thread, not thread jumping) then there is little that can be done to help you. Same with Cristinaimad who has failed to set out a thread detailing their exact issues, solutions tried so far and perhaps posting in the new thread a Crash Report, an

    http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

    report. Anything of use?

     

    No. Just that everyone must have whatever problem you are having because that is all you can think of to justify not addressing your issue properly.

     

    Discuss it all you wish, but until you actually 'try' troubleshooting then you are merely crudding up someone else's old thread.

     

    Good luck

     

    Pete

  • by Lonny Eachus,

    Lonny Eachus Lonny Eachus Dec 9, 2013 12:19 PM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 9, 2013 12:19 PM in response to petermac87

    "And most try to troubleshoot their problems, which is what the Forums are here for. Not to whinge and claim everyone has your issue."

     

    I will thank you to stop trying to put words in my mouth. That doesn't bear much resemblance to what I wrote.

     

    "If you have no help to offer or no wish to try fixing your system (which by the way you should be doing in your own thread, not thread jumping) then there is little that can be done to help you."

     

    My own original post to this thread was to confirm that I was having the same problem as others, and to speculate about a possible cause. This is a necessary step in troubleshooting and was something that others might have found actually helpful.

     

    Cristinaimad originally posted a comment describing (her?) problems, which seemed to have some common points with others who posted here. Again, confirmation that others are having the same problem -- or even slightly different symptoms -- can be helpful in troubleshooting.

     

    "No. Just that everyone must have whatever problem you are having because that is all you can think of to justify not addressing your issue properly."

     

    I haven't seen anyone here insisting that everyone else must be having exactly the same issue. I *HAVE*, however, seen you post several singularly unhelpful comments to the effect that YOU are not having any problems and all, and belittling the problems of others. Do you actually think this is helpful? It looks to me as though you have been disrupting others who have been actually at least attempting to find a solution.

     

    And by the way, I have ALSO sent feedback to Apple over this issue, and I know that others have as well.

     

    "Discuss it all you wish, but until you actually 'try' troubleshooting then you are merely crudding up someone else's old thread."

     

    Discussing it, describing symptoms, and the like are all part of troubleshooting. People here have beey trying to help each other. Insulting them and telling them to shut up, however, is not helpful.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 9, 2013 12:28 PM in response to Lonny Eachus
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    Dec 9, 2013 12:28 PM in response to Lonny Eachus

    Lonny Eachus wrote:

     

    "And most try to troubleshoot their problems, which is what the Forums are here for. Not to whinge and claim everyone has your issue."

     

    I will thank you to stop trying to put words in my mouth. That doesn't bear much resemblance to what I wrote.

     

    "If you have no help to offer or no wish to try fixing your system (which by the way you should be doing in your own thread, not thread jumping) then there is little that can be done to help you."

     

    My own original post to this thread was to confirm that I was having the same problem as others, and to speculate about a possible cause. This is a necessary step in troubleshooting and was something that others might have found actually helpful.

     

    Cristinaimad originally posted a comment describing (her?) problems, which seemed to have some common points with others who posted here. Again, confirmation that others are having the same problem -- or even slightly different symptoms -- can be helpful in troubleshooting.

     

    "No. Just that everyone must have whatever problem you are having because that is all you can think of to justify not addressing your issue properly."

     

    I haven't seen anyone here insisting that everyone else must be having exactly the same issue. I *HAVE*, however, seen you post several singularly unhelpful comments to the effect that YOU are not having any problems and all, and belittling the problems of others. Do you actually think this is helpful? It looks to me as though you have been disrupting others who have been actually at least attempting to find a solution.

     

    And by the way, I have ALSO sent feedback to Apple over this issue, and I know that others have as well.

     

    "Discuss it all you wish, but until you actually 'try' troubleshooting then you are merely crudding up someone else's old thread."

     

    Discussing it, describing symptoms, and the like are all part of troubleshooting. People here have beey trying to help each other. Insulting them and telling them to shut up, however, is not helpful.

    Open your own thread and rant there if you wish. You have been hijacking this thread for a month now and simply can't get answers that justify your individual issues. No wonder people have turned off trying to help you.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Lonny Eachus,

    Lonny Eachus Lonny Eachus Dec 9, 2013 12:42 PM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 9, 2013 12:42 PM in response to petermac87

    Nobody has "hijacked" anything. This is the thread that APPLE gave me when I searched for this issue in the

    forums. If you want to blame anybody, then, blame Apple. And I have little doubt that's how others found their way here as well.

     

    YOU are the one who is whining, about the fact that this thread has taken a turn you don't like. Well, I would apologize if I thought I had anything to apologize for. Again, if there is any blame for that, then blame Apple for the way their community search works.

     

    If you want to lay blame, put it where it belongs, and stop bothering people who were just looking for some help, in exactly the manner recommended by Apple.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 9, 2013 12:51 PM in response to Lonny Eachus
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    Dec 9, 2013 12:51 PM in response to Lonny Eachus

    Lonny Eachus wrote:

     

    Nobody has "hijacked" anything. This is the thread that APPLE gave me when I searched for this issue in the

    forums.

    You really do try to justify everything to have to suit your needs, don't you? So far you have claimed to have the answer

     

    In regard to the problem most people have been reporting here, that is, finder being glitchy in certain ways, I think I know the cause, and it should be ridiculously easy for Apple to fix.

     

    I first noticed a different symptom (of the same problem): when viewing a list of pictures in CoverFlow, if I deleted some pictures, the image cache did not refresh... it still showed the images associated with the deleted files.

     

    I changed the "arrange by" and that did indeed solve the problem. But here's the thing: clicking on a column header changes the displayed order in Finder... but does not update "arrange by" as it should. I think when they built the new-style column headers in Finder, they neglected to make them update "arrange by".

     

    As a result, your Arrange By settings are lost, and clicking the column headers does not fix it. You have to actually go into "arrange by" to fix it.

     

    Note that after you do that, clicking the column headers to change the sort order still does not change your "arrange by" setting as it should. But as long as it is on something other than "none", most of the problems go away.

     

    then decided you were wrong

     

     

    After some more experimentation, it turns out that my theory might not have been the whole answer. There seem to be a number of different but related problems. I am no longer sure of the root cause.

     

    Setting "arrange by" to "Name" instead of "None" did indeed solve the CoverFlow problem I was seeing, but it introduced other problems. I didn't have these problems when I was running Mountain Lion.

     

    It does indeed seem like the Finder "improvements" got rushed out the door incomplete. I am a big fan of Agile incremental development but the end user should not have to take the place of the QA department.

     

    And then demanded that someone fix YOUR issue within someone else's thread

     

    This is only a partial answer. There are a number of options in the Recovery menu. Which did you use? Did you re-install the OS?

     

    A "destructive" solution is no good to me.

     

     

    THAT'S ONLY A PARTIAL ANSWER.

     

    Is "restore" destructive? Does it just "restore" my OS files and leave everything else alone?


     

    Maybe it is time to stop making yourself look like a silly Troll and address your issue in your own thread.

    Sorry this thread is so long, but it is hard to do it justice without linking up your thread hijacks.

     

    Good Luck

     

    Pete

  • by Lonny Eachus,

    Lonny Eachus Lonny Eachus Dec 9, 2013 1:27 PM in response to petermac87
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    Dec 9, 2013 1:27 PM in response to petermac87

    "You really do try to justify everything to have to suit your needs, don't you?"

     

    And NOW you are blaming me for attempting to help other people, which was what you recommended just a little while ago.

     

    "Then decided you were wrong."

     

    No, not "decided", but concluded. They are different things. But in any case, would you have preferred that I not correct my mistaken impression?

     

    "And then demanded that someone fix YOUR issue within someone else's thread"

     

    I asked for clarification. I might have misunderstood what they meant (gee, maybe I'm human) but I "demanded" nothing.

     

    Repeat: everything I have done here has been an attempt to either help others or ask others if they had a solution. I have offered inormation, even if that avenue turned out to be incorrect. That is called "troubleshooting".

     

    What have you offered here that was was not whining, disparaging of others, or that was actually helpful?

     

    No, I have to just toss your own comment back at you: this is supposed to be a discussion of the issue at hand. If anybody has "hijacked" it, and turned it for the worse, it has been yourself.

     

    I have no further reason to argue with you. Insult and complain all you like. I have no reason to apologize to you.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Dec 9, 2013 2:06 PM in response to Lonny Eachus
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    Dec 9, 2013 2:06 PM in response to Lonny Eachus

    Lonny Eachus wrote:

     

    I have no further reason to argue with you. Insult and complain all you like. I have no reason to apologize to you.

    Oh dear! Is this goodbye then?

     

    Good Luck with the crusade and thread jacking.

     

    Your friend

     

    Pete

  • by Parrish Jones,

    Parrish Jones Parrish Jones Dec 10, 2013 6:20 AM in response to alexander922
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    Dec 10, 2013 6:20 AM in response to alexander922

    It seems many do not read a whole thread. The Restore instructions given by others and myself works for almost all problems. Of course, one should have a complete backup before doing a retore. However, it worked for me and for others who were experiencing many glitchy behaviors. Look for it and execute. Maybe you will be pleased.

  • by andQlimax,

    andQlimax andQlimax Dec 17, 2013 10:57 AM in response to alexander922
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    Dec 17, 2013 10:57 AM in response to alexander922

    the problem seems pretty easy and reproduceable on a MBA 2013 10.9.1 fresh:

     

    - swith off the latop completely.

    - swith it on

    - open finder and click on "Macintosh HD" (you need to have a link/shortcut on the left side, it have to be enabled in preferences)

     

    it start loading and after around 30 seconds it show the content, next time you open it is instantly, if you reboot it will need again 20 seconds.

  • by anobre27,

    anobre27 anobre27 Dec 27, 2013 3:42 AM in response to alexander922
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    Dec 27, 2013 3:42 AM in response to alexander922

    Lack of moderator in this forum is a problem. petermac87 Is a self centered egotistic troll himself. The best in such cases is to ignore his offensive and useless comments and continue the discussion as if he was not there. All of the other participants were thouthgful and considerate.

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