PeterBreis0807

Q: Pages 5 features checklist

As you go through the new Pages 5 can you please add an added, missing or altered features here please.

 

I will start with some culled from the general discussions and if you could correct any errors add them:

 

Added

 

1. Right to Left text ie Arabic, Farsi & Hebrew. Uncertain about Pashtu

 

2. Single model templates. You turn off document text to get rid of the default. Not sure if this then can be mixed and matched with Word Processing templates

 

3. Able to share outside iCloud

 

Missing

 

1. Selecting non-contiguous text gone

 

2. Outline view appears gone

 

3. Customizable Toolbar is gone

 

4. Many templates appear gone

 

5. Captured pages gone

 

6. Reorganize pages by dragging gone

 

7. Duplicate pages gone

 

8. Subscript/superscript buttons gone

 

9. Select all instances of a Style is gone

 

10. Retain zoom level of document gone

 

11. Facing pages gone

 

12. Endnotes gone

 

13. Media Inspector can't find iPhoto library on external drive

 

14. Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on the ir Support Download site

 

Altered

 

1. Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide

 

2. Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript

 

3. Header appears to be multi-column

 

4. New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible

 

5. Page numbering method changed

 

6. T.O.C. appears buggy

 

7. Template file storage location moved - to where?

 

8. Imported older .pages files are not translating properly

 

9. Text language is detected automatically now

 

Letting you know I can't test or verify any of these as I haven't got Mavericks yet.

 

Peter

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 7:57 PM

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  • by enteecee,

    enteecee enteecee Nov 6, 2013 12:32 PM in response to Michael Battenfield
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    Nov 6, 2013 12:32 PM in response to Michael Battenfield

    Rate on the App Store and leave Feedback:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html

     

     

    And oh yeah- I started computing with Clarisworks and SimCity 1 on my Mac Clone.

  • by robogobo,

    robogobo robogobo Nov 6, 2013 12:39 PM in response to Kenneth Collins1
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    Nov 6, 2013 12:39 PM in response to Kenneth Collins1

    No, they've been reading the feedback submitted through the proper channels.  You guys are fooling yourselves if you think this discussion thread has made a hill of beans' difference.  It's just complaining for the sake of complaining.  Besides, we have Peter's assurance Apple will no longer be improving Pages, and now the new Mac Pro will be the very last!  he's so sure of it, even though he'll be the first to question how anyone can be sure of the contrary.

    Kenneth Collins1 wrote:

     

    Derick Fay wrote:

     

    Apple has just posted a list of features "in upcoming releases in the next 6 months"

     

    I see they've been reading the discussions. They wouldn't throw water on it if they didn't know it was a fire.

     

    You guys are hillarious. 

  • by robogobo,

    robogobo robogobo Nov 6, 2013 12:41 PM in response to KiltedGreen
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    Nov 6, 2013 12:41 PM in response to KiltedGreen

    +100

    KiltedGreen wrote:

     

    Peter, I think you are being a little over dramatic here and getting into some serious flights of hyperbole which may make you feel better but you may want to go and punch a cushion instead.

     

    Yes, we know that Apple knows that the Mountain Lion's share of its money comes from iOS and that share is growing and that from OS X (and desktops generally) is falling. However, by your logic they would have simply made Pages 4.3 Mavericks compatible and focussed all their new development efforts on the shiny new iOS version. Clearly that has not happened which implies that Apple is likely to have other, more favourable intentions for Pages.

     

    Of course this is speculation but so is yours. We know what Apple have done before and some of that history may be applicable this time round and some may not. All we can do at the moment, as many including yourself have done, is to ensure that we post our clearly detailed and reasoned dissatisfaction with the direction of Pages 5 here and on the App Store and send Apple feedback too.

     

    Anyone who is really keen could setup www.ihatepages5.com I suppose but that maybe going a little too far.

  • by enteecee,

    enteecee enteecee Nov 6, 2013 12:47 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 6, 2013 12:47 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Since we've now crested 1,000 comments on this thread, any chance we can get a bump of the current list with the promised future additions added?

  • by noaliase,

    noaliase noaliase Nov 6, 2013 12:50 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 6, 2013 12:50 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Apple.pngiWork 2013- rotten.

    I've always updated applications as soon as they came out.  No longer- too much hurt in a minimally invasive procedure- but it still hurts- you know----back there.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Nov 6, 2013 12:59 PM in response to robogobo
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    Nov 6, 2013 12:59 PM in response to robogobo

    Yeah robogobo

     

    We are 10000% hilarious.

     

    Peter

  • by BaronRobot,

    BaronRobot BaronRobot Nov 6, 2013 2:35 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 6, 2013 2:35 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    I don't understand why P5 is not able to open .pages files created with previous version of the application, I mean older than '09 version. I was forced to move all my documents to a friend's Mac and open->save them with (his copy of) iWork '09... It took us more than 8 hours! At least I used iCloud so the files were automatically uploaded and sync'd to my Mac. Usually you're not able to open files created with newer version of an app with former versions, that's quite normal, because technology goes on and many things change under the hood... but it's simply crazy that latest version of a software cannot open or import 5 years old files!

  • by israfelli,

    israfelli israfelli Nov 6, 2013 2:37 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 6, 2013 2:37 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    It's nice that Apple threw us a bone and plans to introduce some of the features back. I wonder how they decided on the features to restore first. They don't seem like the critical ones.

     

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  • by enteecee,

    enteecee enteecee Nov 6, 2013 3:21 PM in response to israfelli
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    Nov 6, 2013 3:21 PM in response to israfelli

    Looks to me like those are the easy ones, or some of them.  I expectthat in the meantime they'll aslo be working on the ones that take more time and effort.

     

    • Import of cells with images
    • Manage pages and sections from the thumbnail view

     

    Seem like the only ones that shoudl take any effort to implement, but a software engineer would know better than I.

  • by enoc sun,

    enoc sun enoc sun Nov 6, 2013 8:25 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 6, 2013 8:25 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Two things I see, one is most likely fact, the other perhaps conspiracy theory:

     

    1. They are likely stripping down features to minimalise AMAP and then adding back the ones that are most missed.

     

    2. They may be tricking us into opening up the App Store application as soon as we log on everyday to check for updates and perhaps fall prey to impulse buying tendencies.

  • by montcley.jean,

    montcley.jean montcley.jean Nov 6, 2013 8:47 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 6, 2013 8:47 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Where are MERGE FIELDS AND SENDER FIELDS functions are gone ?

    No way to make mailings !!!!!

    This is not a professional tool anymore.

    When are these features to be restored ?

    A very desappointed user,

    Jean.

  • by montcley.jean,

    montcley.jean montcley.jean Nov 6, 2013 8:57 PM in response to vitessa
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    Nov 6, 2013 8:57 PM in response to vitessa

    I do agree with you !

    what is Pages for if you can't make mailings,

    and you can't import adresses from your adress book.

    I can't understand this.

    Jean.

  • by Tristan Hubsch,

    Tristan Hubsch Tristan Hubsch Nov 6, 2013 9:54 PM in response to Derick Fay
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    Nov 6, 2013 9:54 PM in response to Derick Fay

    Derick Fay wrote:

     

    Apple has just posted a list of features "in upcoming releases in the next 6 months"

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT6049?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

     

    including

     

    Pages

    • Customize toolbar
    • Vertical ruler
    • Improved alignment guides
    • Improved object placement
    • Import of cells with images
    • Improved word counts
    • Keyboard shortcuts for styles
    • Manage pages and sections from the thumbnail view

     

    While this is a small fraction of the functionality removed in the 4.3 → 5.0 upgrade, it also seems to include none of the (non word-processor) DTP functions, such as linked textboxes, rotating tables and charts, inserting tables and charts within table cells... 'twould be interesting (as in a socio-economical study) to know what percentage of the disgruntled Pages 4.3 users will decide to jump ship before at least the announced functionality is re-introduced, and how many will find this token improvement satisfactory or at least encouraging enough to "hang in there."

  • by enteecee,

    enteecee enteecee Nov 6, 2013 10:12 PM in response to Tristan Hubsch
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    Nov 6, 2013 10:12 PM in response to Tristan Hubsch

    Tristan Hubsch wrote:

    ... it also seems to include none of the (non word-processor) DTP functions, such as linked textboxes, rotating tables and charts, inserting tables and charts within table cells...

     

    I think becuase those are harder to impliment.  They promised us the easy stuff soon, and said they'd be deliver "other" stuff later.  I suspect that they're right now working on complex issues like tables and charts now, but don't want to promise it.  This is how they try to do things: under-promise, over-deliver.  not that they always succeed at that, but it does seem to be a part of their secrecy.

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