PeterBreis0807

Q: Pages 5 features checklist

As you go through the new Pages 5 can you please add an added, missing or altered features here please.

 

I will start with some culled from the general discussions and if you could correct any errors add them:

 

Added

 

1. Right to Left text ie Arabic, Farsi & Hebrew. Uncertain about Pashtu

 

2. Single model templates. You turn off document text to get rid of the default. Not sure if this then can be mixed and matched with Word Processing templates

 

3. Able to share outside iCloud

 

Missing

 

1. Selecting non-contiguous text gone

 

2. Outline view appears gone

 

3. Customizable Toolbar is gone

 

4. Many templates appear gone

 

5. Captured pages gone

 

6. Reorganize pages by dragging gone

 

7. Duplicate pages gone

 

8. Subscript/superscript buttons gone

 

9. Select all instances of a Style is gone

 

10. Retain zoom level of document gone

 

11. Facing pages gone

 

12. Endnotes gone

 

13. Media Inspector can't find iPhoto library on external drive

 

14. Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on the ir Support Download site

 

Altered

 

1. Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide

 

2. Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript

 

3. Header appears to be multi-column

 

4. New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible

 

5. Page numbering method changed

 

6. T.O.C. appears buggy

 

7. Template file storage location moved - to where?

 

8. Imported older .pages files are not translating properly

 

9. Text language is detected automatically now

 

Letting you know I can't test or verify any of these as I haven't got Mavericks yet.

 

Peter

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 7:57 PM

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  • by cosmofromwatertown,

    cosmofromwatertown cosmofromwatertown Nov 8, 2013 4:54 PM in response to ericeuhan
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    Nov 8, 2013 4:54 PM in response to ericeuhan

    You know, while a few on this forum would have it that we have done some evil deed, the fact of the matter is Apple should reward us with new iMacs for beta testing NewPages 1.0. For literally no money at all Apple got a complete list of bugs, incompatibilities, and lost and desired features. If they were sincere they would thank us, not brand us. Only people who cared about the product would put up with these derisions.

     

    By the way Apple, while you are adding features back in to NewPages 1.0, why is it the grammar checker that worked in Pages '08 and seem to be built in to the operating system (it seems to work in Textedit) is unavailable in Pages '09? Could you see that NewPages has a proper one? ............ I thought not.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Nov 8, 2013 5:05 PM in response to cosmofromwatertown
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    Nov 8, 2013 5:05 PM in response to cosmofromwatertown

    …yeah that reminds me.

     

    Apple where's my second T-shirt? I've been working overtime here for you!

     

    Peter

     

    PS Exactly how much are you paying the people who are supposedly checking your software before launch?

  • by Tristan Hubsch,

    Tristan Hubsch Tristan Hubsch Nov 8, 2013 8:56 PM in response to ericeuhan
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    Nov 8, 2013 8:56 PM in response to ericeuhan

    ericeuhan wrote:

     

    This is just pitiful.  Pages 09 was a fine program, at least to the extent that I had finally learned to do most everything that I wanted to do.  But Pages 5.0 is a complete joke.  Their only interest, apparently, was to create a word processing program that could do no more than an iPad app.  I tried it, and then went back to Pages 09.  The problem with that is that now Pages 09 crashes every ten minutes or so.  I'm now afraid to write on it.  It says "Pages Plug-in Failure" whatever that means.  I'm beside myself.  I'd hate to have to relearn MS Word, and reconvert all my files after five years with Pages, but it looks like that's  my only option.

     

    Are you running Pages 4.3? [Previous versions were not accessing the iCloud, and the plug-in you see failing activates every time you (or the OS) try to save the file; it tries to access iCloud, whereupon Pages <4.3 crashes.] If you are using a version before 4.3, try using the updater from <http://support.apple.com/downloads/#productivitysoftware> to bring Pages up to version 4.3; it should run w/o hiccups. I am not sure what all would break if you alternatively located and removed the plug-in...

  • by montcley.jean,

    montcley.jean montcley.jean Nov 9, 2013 3:33 AM in response to ericeuhan
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    Nov 9, 2013 3:33 AM in response to ericeuhan

    Hi !

     

    I do agree with you.

     

    On my side I took the decision to revert to Mountain Lion on my "Old" 2008 Imac,

     

    So I am sure I can still run Iwork 09 safely untill further Apple decision to solve

     

    this unbelievable "mistake" or misunderstanding of a large part of their

     

    customer's needs.

     

    Jean.

  • by ericeuhan,

    ericeuhan ericeuhan Nov 9, 2013 3:59 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 9, 2013 3:59 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    I did, on the very first day, after realizing what a fiasco it was.

  • by vitessa,

    vitessa vitessa Nov 9, 2013 4:02 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 9, 2013 4:02 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Some things might be possible or implemented in Pages 5, but you cannot find the point to access the tools for using the feature (or my brain is too old). Or they have forgotten to offer a tool for such things

     

    An example:

     

    It is nearly impossible to edit a table within Pages 5 (and if possible, it is not really userfriendly to find out how to do). Yes, I can put content into the cells, but it is absolutely annyoing to format the table: How to create an blue edge on the left side of a single cell...? But it is no problem to create a table in Pages 4.3, format it, save it, open it in Pages 5 an copy the table into a Pages 5-document were it was not formatable before.

  • by ericeuhan,

    ericeuhan ericeuhan Nov 9, 2013 4:05 AM in response to Tristan Hubsch
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    Nov 9, 2013 4:05 AM in response to Tristan Hubsch

    I am running version 4.3 (1048).  I agree with you, though.  The crashes seem to be occurring on the same schedule as the "cloud" saves.  I'm guessing that the OS X update along with the Pages 5.0 update must have eliminated those plugins.  Thanks very much for the advice.  Do you have any idea which plug-in I should be looking for?

  • by ericeuhan,

    ericeuhan ericeuhan Nov 9, 2013 4:18 AM in response to vitessa
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    Nov 9, 2013 4:18 AM in response to vitessa

    Nor can you, apparently, use the tab key to move from cell to cell.  There used to be an option, a check box, I belive to enable that.

     

    And when working in editing text, what happened to the "Speech" function?  You used to be able to select text, right click, select "speech", and it would be read aloud---a great proofreading tool.  Now all I see is a "create iTunes track".

  • by bozzie,

    bozzie bozzie Nov 9, 2013 4:35 AM in response to Kiwiphone4
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    Nov 9, 2013 4:35 AM in response to Kiwiphone4

    Well I have fixed everything! 

     

    I downloaded Office 365.  Now using Word for Mac.  it is brilliant.  I had forgotten just how good it was, having ditched Windows years ago..

    Now I can keep the Mac which I love and use a program made for Mac which works and which I know will be around in years to come.

  • by Tristan Hubsch,

    Tristan Hubsch Tristan Hubsch Nov 9, 2013 6:26 AM in response to ericeuhan
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    Nov 9, 2013 6:26 AM in response to ericeuhan

    ericeuhan wrote:

     

    I am running version 4.3 (1048). [...]  Do you have any idea which plug-in I should be looking for?

     

    Sorry, but no; I had initially (over-exuberantly ) deleted the iWork '09 folder, restored v.4.1, had the problem with the failing plug-in—but it was solved when I restored Pages v.4.3 (1048) from a backup (just the iWork '09 contents, I never removed/added any system file by hand), which is co-existing peacefully with the 5.0 upgrade. I'd try sifting through the crash-logs (=> /Applications/Utilities/Console) to identify the culprit plug-in. However, it seems like you are missing the plug-in or a support file that the plug-in needs... that's beyond me. Anyone else?

  • by KiltedGreen,

    KiltedGreen KiltedGreen Nov 9, 2013 8:57 AM in response to ericeuhan
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    Nov 9, 2013 8:57 AM in response to ericeuhan

    "And when working in editing text, what happened to the "Speech" function?  You used to be able to select text, right click, select "speech", and it would be read aloud---a great proofreading tool."

     

    Edit > Speech > Start Speaking

  • by BennyC92,

    BennyC92 BennyC92 Nov 9, 2013 10:45 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 9, 2013 10:45 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    The ability to select bibliography formats other than the default 6 or so from endnote is missing. It's going to make referencing my university lab reports harder than it should be.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Nov 9, 2013 10:53 AM in response to BennyC92
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    Nov 9, 2013 10:53 AM in response to BennyC92

    Benny

     

    There were no default bibliography formats at all that I know of in Pages '09 so how is this worse?

     

    Peter

  • by BennyC92,

    BennyC92 BennyC92 Nov 9, 2013 11:06 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 9, 2013 11:06 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    This is when using endnote, under edit - endnote bibliographies - bibliography style (from memory).

  • by crumvoc,

    crumvoc crumvoc Nov 9, 2013 11:22 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 9, 2013 11:22 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Well, I have given up on the Idea that Pages 5.0 is going to be sufficient for my document system needs any time soon.  I also decided that not want to take a chance that 4.3 will die someday without notice. Therefore, I have converted several hundred of my business' documents to a Microsoft word format and have been using Nisus Writer Pro for the last several days.  My experience so far has been good. It has a very "Pages (4.3)" look and feel and seems very stable.  I guess I'll stay with Nisus for the forseable future.  

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