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  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (33,655 points)

    Stick to what you know best, the 10,000% believing.

     

    But don't let me keep you from all the invaluable support you have been giving the countless Pages 5 users flooding in here, wondering what hit them.

     

    Cheers

     

    Peter

  • Steven Levin1 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I argee. Sad,for all the people,who put their  blood,sweat,and tears along with long hours into learning Pages 09 . As someone that came over from windows to the Mac, and started looking for a replacement for word, All I can say, it will not be pages. It hurts when someone pulls the floor out from under you. That is what this looks like.

  • NRoitman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Apple proctors will probably toss this out, but I need to rant:

    One early eWorld friend told me "Upgrade is setback" back in the day, and I scoffed. Maybe in PC world, but not the dear customer loving Apple corp. I now embrace her setback comment, especially with Pages, which will no longer embed tables the way it did, accept images into cells, and contains a slew of new procedures and conventions that appear to be change for change’s sake, rather than meaningful user improvements. Had Pages been like this, I would have never committed 4 years of documents to it, like I did to Claris, then Appleworks, which became unfunctional too. Once fooled on you, twice, on me.  I am so skittish about upgrading to the new version since the last time I accepted the upgrade default, it took hours to problem solve the document problems that incurred, and the prolonged web search to unscramble the multiple setbacks. Now the constant irritating reminders to upgrade that can’t be turned off. Lemmings to the slaughter. Trust is critical in the user experience, and neo-Pages, as well as some meaningless, non-intuitive IOS changes, making targets smaller and words more difficult to read, strain my belief in the traditions of this company and the values of intuition and user modifiability I grew into since the LC.

  • VikingOSX Level 6 Level 6 (12,005 points)

    Rants are orthogonal to community guidelines. As this is a user to user community forum staffed with volunteer members, and not Apple-badged employees, your comments are redundant to what has been expressed without end — for years. You can express yourself with more focus on the Pages feedback page, though you shouldn't entertain any hope for sympathetic response.

     

    Any document that I still create with Pages, is saved, and exported to MS Word .doc/.docx format in the same session. Before I close Pages, I validate that Word document in Office for Mac 2011, or LIbreOffice — for document continuity. I will never be abandoned on an Apple document island again.

  • mayavirupa333 Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Thanks so much for sharing your experience. I found it helpful, and I'm sure others did too. Please ignore anyone who accuses you of "orthogonality". Clearly a dictionary-head.

  • Magnus Lewan Level 4 Level 4 (3,655 points)

    VikingOSX wrote:

     

    Any document that I still create with Pages, is saved, and exported to MS Word .doc/.docx format in the same session. Before I close Pages, I validate that Word document in Office for Mac 2011, or LIbreOffice — for document continuity. I will never be abandoned on an Apple document island again.

     

    Some of us have been doing that since Pages 1.0. It is a good rule for any file that uses unusual formats to save a backup in a more commonly used format.

  • VikingOSX Level 6 Level 6 (12,005 points)

    Coincidentally, the Apple Dictionary app is in my dock, and gets plenty of use.

  • NRoitman Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Enjoy looking up orthogonal until the dictionary gets dummied down to match the next IOS.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (33,655 points)

    It is now over 9 months since the train wreck that is Pages 5 piled up on everyone's Macs.

     

    Apple belatedly completed its short list of "fixes" leaving the still growing list of over 110 missing features:

     

    http://www.freeforum101.com/iworktipsntrick/viewtopic.php?t=424&mforum=iworktips ntrick

     

    and long list of bugs unaddressed.

     

    Users are still as lost as ever on the eternal flipping between versions and corrupted files sent by email, plus all the export problems.

     

    Apple has compounded the problem by stuffing up these forums as well, such that most users seem to have given up using them. Like most Apple software these days.

     

    My original calculation of restoration of all the features that were in Pages in 2009, is now stretching out to "not till 2023", (calculated from 8% of features in 9 months).

     

    That is assuming that Apple even intends restoring anything else. It certainly hasn't said or given a timeline to do so.

  • Magnus Lewan Level 4 Level 4 (3,655 points)

    PeterBreis0807 wrote:

     

    It is now over 9 months since the train wreck that is Pages 5 piled up on everyone's Macs.

     

    Apple belatedly completed its short list of "fixes" leaving the still growing list of over 110 missing features:

     

    http://www.freeforum101.com/iworktipsntrick/viewtopic.php?t=424&mforum=iworktips ntrick

     

    and long list of bugs unaddressed.

     

    Users are still as lost as ever on the eternal flipping between versions and corrupted files sent by email, plus all the export problems.

     

    Apple has compounded the problem by stuffing up these forums as well, such that most users seem to have given up using them. Like most Apple software these days.

     

    My original calculation of restoration of all the features that were in Pages in 2009, is now stretching out to "not till 2023", (calculated from 8% of features in 9 months).

     

    That is assuming that Apple even intends restoring anything else. It certainly hasn't said or given a timeline to do so.

     

    Is Pages promoted by Apple any longer? It does not appear on the first page of the App Store. It used to deserve a place on the Top Paid list in the past. It does not appear as an option when you buy a new Mac. There is no box with iWork to pick up when you walk around a physical Apple Store. How do people even learn that it exists?

     

    I have a feeling that someone is holding a nail ready to push into the coffin.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (33,655 points)

    Magnus

     

    You may be right about the last. Apple has stuffed this up big time and as is their habit, they won't backtrack and confess the error. They'll just stop talking about it and sweep it under the carpet.

     

    As to why you don't see it anywhere prominent in the App store anymore, that is because it is so has such low ratings.

     

    Before it was popular and got a high approval rating which kept in the top 3 or 4 Apps.

     

    Back when you had to pay for it. Now it is free and seen to be what it is worth.

     

    I'd happily pay for Apple to fix it, if they only would. Think there are many of us in the same boat.

     

    Peter

  • MissingPages Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Sadly, I just discovered all this.  (late to the game).  Did apple ever address all the reductions in functionality.  I really want to go back to the old pages.  I created a family tree there and I would like to do more, but i am lost with out Page Layout.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (33,655 points)

    Not really, in fact the list of removed features has grown out to 110 and the bugs just keep popping up.

     

    If you had Pages '09 it should still be in your Applications/iWork folder, use that instead.

     

    Peter

  • MissingPages Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for responding.  I found your post via google and it was created last year.  There were so many comments, I couldn't mentally keep track.  I am using pages 5.2.2.

     

    I called 1-800-my-apple.  When I finally got to the right department, with the question if I could go back to the original pages I paid for prior to mavericks, they "accidentally" dropped my call.

     

    I got my first mac in 2011.  Pages Layout enabled me to look like a power user.  Without it, I feel like an idiot.

     

    I can still access my old files, but if I duplicate it, in effort to build on parts of my tree, it is very foreign.

     

    I will look into pages '09.

  • MissingPages Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Woah.  Found it.  Thanks!