PeterBreis0807

Q: Pages 5 features checklist

As you go through the new Pages 5 can you please add an added, missing or altered features here please.

 

I will start with some culled from the general discussions and if you could correct any errors add them:

 

Added

 

1. Right to Left text ie Arabic, Farsi & Hebrew. Uncertain about Pashtu

 

2. Single model templates. You turn off document text to get rid of the default. Not sure if this then can be mixed and matched with Word Processing templates

 

3. Able to share outside iCloud

 

Missing

 

1. Selecting non-contiguous text gone

 

2. Outline view appears gone

 

3. Customizable Toolbar is gone

 

4. Many templates appear gone

 

5. Captured pages gone

 

6. Reorganize pages by dragging gone

 

7. Duplicate pages gone

 

8. Subscript/superscript buttons gone

 

9. Select all instances of a Style is gone

 

10. Retain zoom level of document gone

 

11. Facing pages gone

 

12. Endnotes gone

 

13. Media Inspector can't find iPhoto library on external drive

 

14. Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on the ir Support Download site

 

Altered

 

1. Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide

 

2. Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript

 

3. Header appears to be multi-column

 

4. New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible

 

5. Page numbering method changed

 

6. T.O.C. appears buggy

 

7. Template file storage location moved - to where?

 

8. Imported older .pages files are not translating properly

 

9. Text language is detected automatically now

 

Letting you know I can't test or verify any of these as I haven't got Mavericks yet.

 

Peter

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 7:57 PM

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  • by Gavin Lawrie,

    Gavin Lawrie Gavin Lawrie Oct 24, 2013 1:56 AM in response to Mike Boone
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    Mac App Store
    Oct 24, 2013 1:56 AM in response to Mike Boone

    Mike Boone wrote:

     

    3. Selecting a section/page in thumbnail window to delete it — GONE so how do you delete a section now!?


    11. Add a section - GONE (in that it only adds it to end of the document—does not INSERT it, it adds it and then you cannot move it to another place).

     

     

    Vis 3. As per online help system, to delete a section (break) you delete the section (break) as you did before in 4.3.  To delete the text / content of a section you have to select the text in the document and delete it.  So this is possible, but the easier way of doing it (deleting sections in thumbnail browser) is no longer available.

     

    Vis 11.  You can add sections in the middle of other sections - there may be several ways of doing it, but one that seems to work is simply to scroll to text in the middle of a section of text, and go to the 'Section' pane (Setup Gear, Section Tab on RHS) and click on the drop-down "Create New Section" - which offers to add one at end of the section or 'Starting with this page'.  Not exactly what you could do before, but it is certainly not the case that you can only add sections to end of document

     

    HTH

  • by KimZing,

    KimZing KimZing Oct 24, 2013 2:19 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 2:19 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    It seems that Apple forgot to tell us that the new iWork-release is called 'Garage-iWork' and that the most of us have to wait unil the release of 'iWork Pro'.

     

    /Kim

     

    PS. The serious part:

    I have been almost scared to death when reading all things reported in this thread. I have been working professionally with iWork (especially Pages) for many years and it seems that all advanced (but easy-to-use) tools I have been using in this work is gone in the new release. I see now very clearly that I still have to rely on Pages 4 in iWork '09, otherwise my business will be ruined.

  • by gregober,

    gregober gregober Oct 24, 2013 3:07 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 3:07 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    It is quite incredible to see that we had to wait so many years for a crappy update with way too many features removed… and key features such as :

     

    • images in header (company logo ??)
    • selection of similar style
    • customized toolbar
    • reorganize pages by dragging gone
    • captured pages gone
    • side rullers gone

     

    All of this GONE !

     

    And the added features are somewhat limited and focused on the iCloud which is not really interesting for real business users : I don't want to share my private documents with any Apple iCloud servers - I have my own server inhouse THANKS.

     

    Apple : give us back our features - This is not an upgrade but a downgrade.

     

    We don't care about the iPad : who is seriously using iWork with an iPad anyhow ! 

  • by gregober,

    gregober gregober Oct 24, 2013 3:08 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 3:08 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    So true !!

  • by papalapapp,

    papalapapp papalapapp Oct 24, 2013 3:27 AM in response to palm disaster
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    Mac OS X
    Oct 24, 2013 3:27 AM in response to palm disaster

    palm disaster wrote:

     

    New "feature:"  if you want to open an existing template you previously created, you are forced to first add it to "Template Chooser."  You can't simply open the template and use it.  Seems like a very amateurish software design flaw.  It's totally unnecessary.

     

    I use an ever expanding number of templates all day long.  Adding each different template to my "Template Chooser" is not workable for me.

     

    Have to go back to 4.3.

     

    This is interesting. Adding templates to the template chooser is painful in Pages '09, but actually I have all my templates in those places where I need them. Makes much more sens than throwing them all into the chooser.

     

    I guess that is because we are Apple is moving towards a new file organisation system. Fine, but as long as it isn't finished or doesn't work yet propperly, I wouldn't want to be forced into it.

  • by Chortler,

    Chortler Chortler Oct 24, 2013 3:32 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 3:32 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Find and replace special characters (eg paragraph marks) has gone.

  • by Ash435,

    Ash435 Ash435 Oct 24, 2013 4:00 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
    Level 2 (454 points)
    Oct 24, 2013 4:00 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Pages 5 is unusable to me. I have over 1000 Pages documents and a quick sample showed that most were altered in some way and many were obsoleted by missing features. The new interface is clearly a nod to iOS rather than designed with serious productivity on a Mac in mind.

     

    I will obviously have to stick with Pages '09 but Apple needs to reassure us that it will be developed and maintained. Removing it from the App Store is not a good sign.

     

    I am already finding that scrolling is less smooth in Mavericks - Pages '09 could do with some optimisation there.

     

    And then there are a small number of nice improvements in Pages 5 that I'm going to have to live without indefinitely (like the improved copy/paste table style for multiple cells, the reset image enhancements bug-fix, and the new shape combining feature).

  • by JinBerlin,

    JinBerlin JinBerlin Oct 24, 2013 4:32 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 4:32 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Please help: where can one still get the old Pages 09? (to download, as of October 24th?) We have a school magazine based on a Pages 09 template and it is completely impossible to create the next issue of the magazine in the new Pages, because of lacking features such as insert pages or linking text boxes (and all that is described above). I do have the old Pages 09 on my computer but it would be great to have the possibility for others working on the mag to still downgrade to Pages 09.

    thx!

  • by Andy Epprecht,

    Andy Epprecht Andy Epprecht Oct 24, 2013 4:41 AM in response to gregober
    Level 1 (59 points)
    Photos for Mac
    Oct 24, 2013 4:41 AM in response to gregober

    Maps on iOS was a disaster for some not long ago and forced Apple to react.

     

    But this with Pages 5 is horrible! (and iBooks as well, but that's another story)

  • by Linda Menkhorst,

    Linda Menkhorst Linda Menkhorst Oct 24, 2013 5:38 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 5:38 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    I need the mail merge, I'm afraid it won't return...

  • by nmds,

    nmds nmds Oct 24, 2013 5:44 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 5:44 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Pages. The last word in word processing.

     

     

     

    so sad.

  • by Michael Collver,

    Michael Collver Michael Collver Oct 24, 2013 5:53 AM in response to robthabruce
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    Oct 24, 2013 5:53 AM in response to robthabruce
  • by _pete,

    _pete _pete Oct 24, 2013 5:52 AM in response to T2YUKI
    Level 1 (115 points)
    Oct 24, 2013 5:52 AM in response to T2YUKI

    "changed" is a polite way of saying "destroyed": here's the new Pages Scripting Dictionary in full:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-10-24 at 13.51.20.png

  • by T2YUKI,

    T2YUKI T2YUKI Oct 24, 2013 6:02 AM in response to _pete
    Level 1 (92 points)
    Notebooks
    Oct 24, 2013 6:02 AM in response to _pete

    Right.  Only one command and one class in the Pages Suite.  Useless.

  • by Jorge Br,

    Jorge Br Jorge Br Oct 24, 2013 6:28 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 6:28 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Same experience here. Many of the beautiful and simple features that I liked in Pages are missing in this "new" version. I am so sad! And there are so many bugs and problems...

    In my University I was a supporter of Pages against Word. Now I am completely disappointed.

    I would rather downgrade to Pages 09, if it is possible.

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