PeterBreis0807

Q: Pages 5 features checklist

As you go through the new Pages 5 can you please add an added, missing or altered features here please.

 

I will start with some culled from the general discussions and if you could correct any errors add them:

 

Added

 

1. Right to Left text ie Arabic, Farsi & Hebrew. Uncertain about Pashtu

 

2. Single model templates. You turn off document text to get rid of the default. Not sure if this then can be mixed and matched with Word Processing templates

 

3. Able to share outside iCloud

 

Missing

 

1. Selecting non-contiguous text gone

 

2. Outline view appears gone

 

3. Customizable Toolbar is gone

 

4. Many templates appear gone

 

5. Captured pages gone

 

6. Reorganize pages by dragging gone

 

7. Duplicate pages gone

 

8. Subscript/superscript buttons gone

 

9. Select all instances of a Style is gone

 

10. Retain zoom level of document gone

 

11. Facing pages gone

 

12. Endnotes gone

 

13. Media Inspector can't find iPhoto library on external drive

 

14. Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on the ir Support Download site

 

Altered

 

1. Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide

 

2. Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript

 

3. Header appears to be multi-column

 

4. New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible

 

5. Page numbering method changed

 

6. T.O.C. appears buggy

 

7. Template file storage location moved - to where?

 

8. Imported older .pages files are not translating properly

 

9. Text language is detected automatically now

 

Letting you know I can't test or verify any of these as I haven't got Mavericks yet.

 

Peter

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.4)

Posted on Oct 22, 2013 7:57 PM

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  • by Robson,

    Robson Robson Oct 24, 2013 9:16 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:16 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Alright, thanks.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Oct 24, 2013 9:17 AM in response to cosmofromwatertown
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:17 AM in response to cosmofromwatertown

    cosmofromwatertown wrote:

     

    I had thought the same. With a few tweak iBooks Author could be a marvelous 'Pages Pro'. However, my fear is of something much more sinister. I fear this is the tip of the iceberg. This is the beginning of a philosophical shift at Apple.

     

    We all remember the '1984' ad that started the Mac revolution, the Orwellian future, the 'Borg-like' one-mind mentality. How the individual triumphed by casting her hammer into Big Brother. Apple staked its claim on empowering the individual and their own creativity against the forces of evil that would turn us all into stone-like lemmings. This IS the DNA the Mac was founded on.

     

    However, with the success of FaceBook, Twitter, Google, the dollar signs are once again pointing toward the Orwellian 'one-mind' future (to say nothing about the growing acceptibility of collecting data and spying). With Jobs gone, Cook and Ive are recharting the new minimalist, future of the 'collective'. This is their vision. It seems to me all the 'individualized' features had to be abandoned to implement the new iOS 'collective' experience - like the new US healthcare problems, the implementation of all these features were approaching a mathematical impossiblity in the face of this new 'collective,' 'collaborative' ideal. So, out they went.... and they can't come back without bloating the program and defying the new minimalist ideal.

     

    I fear this is the end of Apple. The DNA has changed. HAL has taken over. They had to have known what they were doing. Like a sort of mental syndrome, the appeal of their dream future, along with the profit potential and gravitas from the iOS side, will turn Apple into the very Big Brother Jobs feared - those who do not share in this dream will be marginalized and pushed away. The future is the new Pages: cookie cutter and pretty.

     

    cosmo

     

    That always was bunkum, Jobs was only trying to get the faithful to ring the wagons.

     

    Jobs was always the Orwellian figure on the screen using Newspeak to persuade the followers that black was white then black again as we had to follow all his twists and turns.

     

    If you remember the basic plot in 1984 was how the 3 great global powers would switch alliances at intervals and the masses would have to hate the old allies they previously loved and switch to loving their evil foes, on cue.

     

    What does that remind you of? IBM, Microsoft, Intel, Dell, Google, Android… it goes on and on.

     

    Peter

  • by cheekyjeremy,

    cheekyjeremy cheekyjeremy Oct 24, 2013 9:20 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:20 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Robson wrote:

     

    Peter, have you updated your list to take into account replies which mentioned certain features aren't missing after all? I haven't checked the whole thing but I noticed you didn't erase "Endnotes" from the "Removed" list even though PaulBee said they're not gone:https://discussions.apple.com/message/23478188#23478188.

    -----------------

     

    This is a tough call, if the workaround is so either complicated, time consuming or awkward as to make it more or less unusable, it still remains unusable in my eyes. The issue with unticking "document body" as a means to be able to delete individual pages being a prime example. If I unclick "document body" it removed all inline text from the document and all formatting also. Therefore while I then technically delete a page, I no longer have a functioning document.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Oct 24, 2013 9:25 AM in response to cheekyjeremy
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:25 AM in response to cheekyjeremy

    Yes which is why it didn't fit the one line listings in the Added, Removed, Altered model, so best left out of it.

     

    Peter

  • by papalapapp,

    papalapapp papalapapp Oct 24, 2013 9:32 AM in response to Uelef
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:32 AM in response to Uelef

    Uelef wrote:

     

    I have to disagree in one point what people wrote here: textbox linking is still possible but it works not the same way as in Pages ’09.

     

    Here's an article I wrote about textbox linking in Pages 5.0 (sorry: in German):

    http://www.ratschlag24.com/pages-5.0-textfelder-miteinander-verknuepfen

     

    Intersting read. It seems to be a different feature, more like masking. Text flows from one box to the next, but once you have "joined" them, they merge into one singe new shape that you can't separate any more. Meaning you can't move, resize or delete one of those boxes.

     

    But, cool new feature for whom it is useful.

  • by Joel Cranford,

    Joel Cranford Joel Cranford Oct 24, 2013 9:34 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:34 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    CHECKLIST - Alphabetized (and with strike-thrus removed)

     

    New Pages 5 added, removed or altered features

    As of Oct. 24 2013, 9:23AM


    ADDED

    1. Collaboration
    2. Phonetic Guide for Chinese & Japanese
    3. Right to Left text
    4. Share outside iCloud
    5. Single model templates. No More Word Processing/Layout templates
    6. Template names can be changed inside the Template Chooser
    7. Text language is detected automatically

     

     

    REMOVED

    135 templates

    Accented Characters in Footer

    Alignment Guides

    Background Object selectable

    Bookmarks and Links

    Bullet points in comments

    Capture pages/sections

    Character Styles (?)

    Import of older .pages formatting - Not Clean

    Customizable Toolbar

    Default Start Up page

    Delete page

    Drag and Drop VCards

    Drag reorganize pages

    Duplicate pages

    Endnotes

    Export to .txt or .rtf

    Facing pages

    Find & Replace special characters (e.g. paragraph returns)

    Images within Tables

    Import Styles

    Insert File Name

    Layout Breaks

    Layout Margins

    List Styles (?)

    Mail Merge

    Manage Pages

    Mask with shapes other than rectangle

    Mathtype/Grapher Equations/Formulae within Pages

    Media Inspector links to Aperture Library

    Media Inspector links to iPhoto library on external drive

    Merge Fields

    Multiple Comments view

    Open Type features

    Outline view

    Paste and keep style

    Retain zoom level of document

    Search comments

    Search in Media Browser

    Search Sidebar

    Select all instances of a Style

    Select non-contiguous text

    Selective formatting in Character Styles

    Storyboards

    Style Function key shortcuts

    Styles Drawer

    Subscript/superscript buttons

    T.O.C. clean numbering

    Tables in Headers/Footers

    Tables to Text

    Text to Tables

    Textbox linking

    Two-up view

    User Guide (?)

    Vertical Ruler

    Word (.DOCX) export to iCloud

     

     

    Altered

    • AppleScript Library for Pages 5 has changed with many classes and commands removed which indicates how the feature lists have been slashed
    • Character Styles are in the Text Inspector under Bold, Italic etc
    • Documents reconverted back to Pages '09 lose all template information
    • Drag and Drop text only works with .txt files now
    • Header appears to be multi-column
    • Language set moved to Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide
    • New file format/architecture (but still .pages in name?) not backwardly compatible
    • Page numbering method changed
    • Pages '09 files previewed on iPad via iCloud are irrevocably converted
    • Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript,
    • Tabbing within Table cells appears to be inconsistent, tabbing internally with numbers.
    • Template file storage location moved …somewhere?
    • Update is missing for older installations (Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on their Support Download site)
    • Wrap methods have been cut back severely
  • by trip1ex,

    trip1ex trip1ex Oct 24, 2013 9:49 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:49 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    It seems pretty normal for Apple to include less features when they rewrite software and, in time, add them back in.  It also seems pretty normal for people to overreact. 

     

    iMovie and FCX come to mind. 

  • by Thomas Costello,

    Thomas Costello Thomas Costello Oct 24, 2013 9:52 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:52 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Here is an example of how my table of contents looks now, in two different documents.  The numbers on each page appear normal, but in the table of contents, they look like this:

     

    Screen Shot 2013-10-22 at 9.55.20 PM.png

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Screen Shot 2013-10-24 at 12.43.54 PM.png

  • by Tom Gewecke,

    Tom Gewecke Tom Gewecke Oct 24, 2013 9:54 AM in response to Joel Cranford
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:54 AM in response to Joel Cranford

     

    REMOVED


    Export to .txt or .rtf


    Mathtype/Grapher Equations/Formulae within Pages


     

    Export to Plain Text was not removed.

     

    Both import and export of .rtf was removed.

     

    Insert MathType Equation is still there.

  • by enteecee,

    enteecee enteecee Oct 24, 2013 9:55 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 9:55 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    FTR, for those saying that Power Users are the only people getting slighted here, that's jsut not the case.  Facing pages is very basic, as are some of the other stripped features.

  • by Michael Hanscom,

    Michael Hanscom Michael Hanscom Oct 24, 2013 10:00 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 10:00 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Regarding this item:

     

    ↪ Template file storage location moved …somewhere?

     

    Someone else mentioned this earlier (page 9, I think?), but I just found it myself, and it looks like their earlier post may have been overlooked.

     

    User templates are now stored in

     

    ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.iWork.pages (right-click, Show Package Contents) /Data/Library/Application Support/User Templates/

     

    Nice and user-friendly, isn't it?

  • by jtsnyc47,

    jtsnyc47 jtsnyc47 Oct 24, 2013 10:11 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 10:11 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    If Apple were to take the Inspector from iWork '09 and stick it where the content-aware Inspector is now, that would address 90% of my personal gripes. I would even encourage them to whack the "hyperlinks inspector" and the "QuickTime inspector" to save space/acknowledge that no one uses them. 

     

    The content-aware paradigm strikes me as very Microsoft Office-ish. At the very least, it's extremely disorienting. 

  • by MayanjaXL,

    MayanjaXL MayanjaXL Oct 24, 2013 10:23 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 10:23 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    Looks like numbered headings have gone as well??? I can't give my headings 1 an automatic number anymore.

  • by Felix Leiter,

    Felix Leiter Felix Leiter Oct 24, 2013 10:34 AM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Oct 24, 2013 10:34 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

    I want the "floating" inspector window back instead of that sidebar!

  • by Mark0328,

    Mark0328 Mark0328 Oct 24, 2013 11:00 AM in response to Felix Leiter
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    Oct 24, 2013 11:00 AM in response to Felix Leiter

    I have used Pages the past several years primarily to create graphic intensive weekly flyers for a small business. Can anyone tell me if these features have been removed in the new version?

     

    Instant Alpha

    Bring Forward / Send Backward commands

    Access to full color pallette

    Adjust Image controls

    Ability to scale and adjust images in inches

     

    Very much appreciated.  Thanks

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