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  • linda2009 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    Yeah, Martina.A, Nothing is for free. The price for iWork is FUNCTIONALITY.  I only previewed it on another machine.  LOTS of stuff is gone, broken, and it's breaking files, sounds like.

     

    For now, I'm keeping the 4 version.  Much better and never locks up on me.

  • linda2009 Level 1 Level 1 (35 points)

    wfpIndiana,

    Do you use Swift Publisher a lot?  Do you like it very much?

  • TodFromIndiana Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @wfpIndiana:  I had to chuckle when you mentioned MSPublisher - thank god it's not on the Mac.  I'm in a social group and once a year a committee person puts together a membership directory that comprises a number of pages of "front matter" (list of officers, committees, meeting schedules, the ever-popular 'mission statement,' current bylaws), the actual membership listing (name, address, phone, email, member since, birthday), and then a picture directory of members' face photos.  For years it had been done in MSP and each year there were pages missing, mislabeled photos, names out of sequence, you name it.  The source for this info was an Excel file plus photos and text.  I took it over a couple of years ago, imported the Excel file into Filemaker Pro (which let me also add photos to each member's record) and did the layout in Pages.  Using Pages I typed up the front matter, then exported the FMP directory listing and photo listing to PDF, combined everything in Preview, sent the whole thing to a print shop.  While it wasn't perfect, at least the earlier errors hadn't crept in.

     

    So at this point, after looking at the "mavericks" section of these boards and after reading the tales of horror about Pages, I'm going to pass on the whole upgrade experience for a year or two.  Mtn. Lion and Pages 09 are working quite nicely.  There aren't any "must have" new features in Mav that are compelling enough to bring me over.

     

    @PeterBreis0807:  Thank you so very much for spearheading this thread and for compiling this incredible list.

     

    @linda2009: You can check out a trial copy of Swift here:  https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/18896/swift-publisher  If you're a student or academic, you can get it for a bit above $20.

     

    Another alternative is iStudio Publisher:  https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/30166/istudio-publisher

     

    I haven't tried either of these but checking out the trials might help you decide.

  • Lofty Becker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Endnotes are there, but a pain. You create a footnote; change it to an endnote. Then everything else will be an endnote too, since you can have only one kind in a document.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,460 points)

    trip1ex wrote:

     

    It seems pretty normal for Apple to include less features when they rewrite software and, in time, add them back in.  It also seems pretty normal for people to overreact. 

     

    iMovie and FCX come to mind. 

     

    It is not overreacting when the rewritten software destroys their work or makes their work untenable.

     

    btw Apple has not entirely reinstated features and workflows in iMovie and FCX and there is a very long list of other software where they have never replaced or reinstated anything at all.

     

    Peter

  • juan carlosfrommadera Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

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  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,460 points)

    Updated Check List

     

    New Pages 5 added, removed or altered features:

     

    Added

     

    + Right to Left text

     

    + Single model templates. No More Word Processing/Layout templates

     

    + Share outside iCloud

     

    + Phonetic Guide for Chinese & Japanese

     

    + Custom Template names can be changed inside the Template Chooser by right clicking

     

    + Custom Templates can be deleted inside the Template Chooser by right clicking

     

    + Text language is detected automatically

     

    + Collaboration

     

    Removed

     

    Select non-contiguous text

     

    Outline view

     

    Customizable Toolbar

     

    135 templates

     

    Capture pages/sections

     

    Drag reorganize pages

     

    Duplicate pages

     

    Delete page

     

    Manage Pages

     

    Subscript/superscript buttons

     

    Select all instances of a Style

     

    Retain zoom level of document

     

    Facing pages

     

    Layout Breaks

     

    Layout Margins

     

    Media Inspector links to iPhoto library on external drive

     

    Media Inspector links to Aperture Library

     

    Alignment Guides

     

    Styles Drawer

     

    Merge Fields

     

    Drag and Drop VCards

     

    Default Start Up page

     

    Vertical Ruler

     

    Style Function key shortcuts

     

    Bookmarks

     

     

    Hyperlinks to external documents

     

    Images within Tables

     

    Mathtype/Grapher Equations/Formulae within Pages

     

    Import Styles

     

    Clean Import of older .pages formatting

     

    User Guide

     

    Search Sidebar

     

    Open Type features

     

    Textbox linking

     

    Background Object selectable

     

    Storyboards

     

    Text to Tables

     

    Tables to Text

     

    Tables in Headers/Footers

     

    Word export to iCloud

     

    Export to .rtf

     

     

    Import from .rtf

     

    Multiple Comments view

     

    T.O.C. clean numbering

     

    Character Styles  ?

     

    List Styles   ?

     

    Selective formating in Character Styles

     

    Insert File Name

     

    Search in Media Browser

     

    Bullet points in comments

     

    Search comments

     

    Two up view

     

    Paste and keep style

     

    Accented characters in Footer

     

    Mail Merge


     

    Custom Auto-correct

     

    Mask with shapes other than rectangle

     

    Find & Replace special characters eg paragraph returns


     

    Auto-Dates on opening document


     

    Speech to Text


     

    Format Bar

     

    Altered

     

    ↪ Pages '09 files previewed on iPad via iCloud are irrevocably converted

     

    ↪ Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on their Support Download site

     

    ↪ Wrap methods have been cut back severely

     

    ↪ Documents reconverted back to Pages '09 lose all template information

     

    ↪ Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide

     

    ↪ Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript

     

    ↪ Header appears to be multi-column

     

    ↪ New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible

     

    ↪ Page numbering method changed

     

    ↪ Custom Templates are now stored in ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.iWork.pages (a package)

     

    ↪ AppleScript Library for Pages 5 has changed with many classes and commands removed which indicates how the feature lists have been slashed

     

    ↪ Character Styles are in the Text Inspector under Bold, Italic etc

     

    ↪ Tabbing within Table cells appears to be inconsistent, tabbing internally with numbers.

     

    ↪ Drag and Drop text only works with .txt files now

     

    ↪ EndNote plugin is partially broken

     

    ↪ List options are now in a pop-down menu in the contextual Inspector

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,235 points)

    PeterBreis0807 wrote:

     


    Mathtype/Grapher Equations/Formulae within Pages

     

     

    Not correct for MathType.  It still works, but only outside tables.

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5476171?tstart=0

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,460 points)

    If you are looking for alternative software to Pages:

     

    http://www.freeforum101.com/iworktipsntrick/viewforum.php?f=7&mforum=iworktipsnt rick

     

    Peter

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,460 points)

    Tom

     

    I explained in another Forum post, the issue is that you can no longer insert images in Tables, and I suspect other Objects, and MathType's formulae are .pdfs.

     

    Effectively that is a "Removed".

     

    This is a list and I don't want to parenthesise points if I can avoid it.

     

    However to clarify this is an amendment:

     

    Mathtype Equations/Formulae within Tables (and other Objects?)

     

    Grapher Equations/Formulae within Tables (and other Objects?)

     

    Peter

  • SuperSizeIt Level 3 Level 3 (570 points)

    Hello Microsoft Office. Apple just did them a favor. Microsoft will sell a boatload of Office!

  • Tom Gewecke Level 9 Level 9 (74,235 points)

    PeterBreis0807 wrote:

     

     

    Effectively that is a "Removed".

     

    Fine, it's your list.  But there is a menu item called Insert MathType Equation, and I think ignoring that detracts from your credibilty.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,460 points)

    See my amended post Tom. I was working on it as you replied.

     

    Peter

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (32,460 points)

    I can't edit the previous post so here it is adjusted.

     

    Updated Check List

     

    New Pages 5 added, removed or altered features:

     

    Added

     

    + Right to Left text

     

    + Single model templates. No More Word Processing/Layout templates

     

    + Share outside iCloud

     

    + Phonetic Guide for Chinese & Japanese

     

    + Custom Template names can be changed inside the Template Chooser by right clicking

     

    + Custom Templates can be deleted inside the Template Chooser by right clicking

     

    + Text language is detected automatically

     

    + Collaboration

     

    Removed

     

    Select non-contiguous text

     

    Outline view

     

    Customizable Toolbar

     

    135 templates

     

    Capture pages/sections

     

    Drag reorganize pages

     

    Duplicate pages

     

    Delete page

     

    Manage Pages

     

    Subscript/superscript buttons

     

    Select all instances of a Style

     

    Retain zoom level of document

     

    Facing pages

     

    Layout Breaks

     

    Layout Margins

     

    Media Inspector links to iPhoto library on external drive

     

    Media Inspector links to Aperture Library

     

    Alignment Guides

     

    Styles Drawer

     

    Merge Fields

     

    Drag and Drop VCards

     

    Default Start Up page

     

    Vertical Ruler

     

    Style Function key shortcuts

     

    Bookmarks

     

    Hyperlinks to external documents

     

    Images within Tables

     

    Mathtype Equations/Formulae within Tables (and other Objects?)

     

    Grapher Equations/Formulae within Tables (and other Objects?)

     

    Import Styles

     

    Clean Import of older .pages formatting

     

    User Guide

     

    Search Sidebar

     

    Open Type features

     

    Textbox linking

     

    Background Object selectable

     

    Storyboards

     

    Text to Tables

     

    Tables to Text

     

    Tables in Headers/Footers

     

    Word export to iCloud

     

    Export to .rtf

     

    Import from .rtf

     

    Multiple Comments view

     

    T.O.C. clean numbering

     

    Character Styles  ?

     

    List Styles   ?

     

    Selective formating in Character Styles

     

    Insert File Name

     

    Search in Media Browser

     

    Bullet points in comments

     

    Search comments

     

    Two up view

     

    Paste and keep style

     

    Accented characters in Footer

     

    Mail Merge

     

    Custom Auto-correct

     

    Mask with shapes other than rectangle

     

    Find & Replace special characters eg paragraph returns

     

    Auto-Dates on opening document

     

    Speech to Text

     

    Format Bar

     

    Altered

     

    ↪ Pages '09 files previewed on iPad via iCloud are irrevocably converted

     

    ↪ Update is missing for older installations, Apple is reportedly working on a solution via a redeemable code or update on their Support Download site

     

    ↪ Wrap methods have been cut back severely

     

    ↪ Documents reconverted back to Pages '09 lose all template information

     

    ↪ Language set under Edit > Spelling and Grammar > Show Spelling and Grammar now document wide

     

    ↪ Subscript/superscript text is now a convoluted route Gear > Advanced options > Baseline > Subscript/Superscript

     

    ↪ Header appears to be multi-column

     

    ↪ New file format (but still .pages?) not backwardly compatible

     

    ↪ Page numbering method changed

     

    ↪ Custom Templates are now stored in ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.iWork.pages (a package)

     

    ↪ AppleScript Library for Pages 5 has changed with many classes and commands removed which indicates how the feature lists have been slashed

     

    ↪ Character Styles are in the Text Inspector under Bold, Italic etc

     

    ↪ Tabbing within Table cells appears to be inconsistent, tabbing internally with numbers.

     

    ↪ Drag and Drop text only works with .txt files now

     

    ↪ EndNote plugin is partially broken

     

    ↪ List options are now in a pop-down menu in the contextual Inspector

  • Lofty Becker Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Very helpful, Peter. I'm glad you're doing it. The "altered" section is particularly helpful to me.

     

    Those considering an alternative might want to look into Nisus Writer (two versions). It doesn't have everything that was dropped (no outlining), but it does have really wonderful search and replace and is even programmable for fancy manipulations. If you go to the company site you can get a demo.

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