Q: Pages 5 features checklist

I see the iPad as an extension to my iMac and MacBook Air. It's great for showing examples when teaching. But I would never use it to replace my iMac. And it's definetly no toy. I bought the Logitech keyboard case to have a keyboard for faster typing. But there are apps like Pages that are impossible to use on the iPad, however intuitive Apple may do it. It's ok for some 1-2 sided papers, but I would never produce a brochure or magazine or book on my iPad. For that I have my iMac with second monitor.

Browse All Versions:

Now I hadn't tried this before, but it was on my todo list.  When I first noticed problems with files opened in Pages 5.0, I was simply restoring files from Time Machine in order to get back to the original version for 4.3, thinking it was necessary for version history.  But correct me if I'm wrong, Time Machine isn't necessary for browsing documents version history.  Is that right?  I just tested it and it seems to work with my Time Machine disk disconnected.  Can someone verify this?

I just opened an old 4.3 document in 5.0, made some changes, saved and closed it.  Then I tried to open it in 4.3 and of course it wouldnt open.  So I opened it again in 5.0, went to File > Revert to > Browse All Versions and it opened up the interface, which looks like Time Machine (I always assumed it was) but I think it's not.  Anyway, I went back to the old version, hit restore and then closed it without saving.  I can now open it again in 4.3 in its original state!

Did everyone already know this?  If it's true, then there isn't any permanent damage being done, and everything can be reverted to originals from within 5.0.  I think this is great news.

KiltedGreen wrote:

 

Mr Jinks: "My first disappointment was to discover that the iPad was really a toy, and not a serious replacement for a laptop"

 

Oh dear.

 

When Steve Jobs announced iPad he made it clear that it was not intended to replace the laptop and Apple never presented it like that. The original iPad keynote is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBhYxj2SvRI

 

It's within the first few minutes too ...

 

I'm sure the architects, students, surgeons, teachers, aircraft personnel and more would also laugh at your assessment of it being "really a toy". I think the iPad is brilliant. It can do some tasks better than anything elsel, but equally it can't let you develop apps or run Final Cut Pro. It's not meant to!

 

Horses for courses. For some people, an iPad can do everything they used their laptop for and it would be a "laptop replacement". For some none of their main uses for a laptop are possible on an iPad. The gap is closing, but that is where you have to do some homework and make an intelligent assessment.

Interesting perspective. I too was pretty disapointed when I first got my iPad because it was far more limited than I expected. Since Lion I have the fear that too much of it will take over the Mac. I have always struggled to understand why people find it hat "awesome".

But as you say, it does things differently than a Mac. I schould consider it as a different thing, like an addition rather than a replacement. I wouldn't buy an iPad again because that little MacBook Air would make me much happier. Maybe because I don't do so many things of what the iPad is meant for.

On topic again, I can confirm that there are no settings for margins after inserting a multi-column layout break. My observations on this:

• If you start from scratch in P5, the layout break will be seamless, meaning the margin between the paragraphs won't change. If you need spacing, you'll have to provisionally tweak it one by one with a blank line or transparent border or so.
  
  
• Unfortunately paragraph spacing don't apply at the point of layout breaks.

• If you have a document previously usedn in P'09 that has section margins set, these will apply to the layout break in P5 and you won't be able to change that.
  
  
• Nice detail: If you select a paragraph and apply lets say 3 columns, there will be a layout break before and after. After that, applying the same number of columns to the paragraph before or after, will merge the layout breaks automatically so you will have 3 large columns instead of 2x3. Well done, I think.

You can't convert text into a table or reverse :'(

It would probably be more efficent to export any file that has been created or read by Pages 5 to Page 09 format and then delete Pages 5 and forget about it until (or if) it is reissued as a serious piece of software.

But then you'd be solidifying things that may have been messed up by 5.0.  The idea is to revert old documents to their pre-5.0 state.

I'm not sure whether Apple is aware or not, but many of us use Pages as our main WP app in **business,** i.e., we make our livings this way. To take it away from us by giving us this play version of a WP is just outrageous. I've been a faithful Apple user since 1983, never caved even when I was mocked and was the only person I knew who thought they were great. That's 30 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, this is the last straw. You can't just cause us hours and hours of work simply because you want to make everything work on the Cloud and be cool. Maybe they will add the features back in eventually, but I'm not waiting around. I'm done.

I have an iPad, an iPhone and a MacBook Pro. The iPad and iPhone are for fun stuff like WWF, FB, Facetime. I'm doing complex research and layout that would never work from an iPad or anything with a small screen. Is Apple just going to totally remove our capability to function as a business? Because that's what it seems like. Now I'm going to spend the evening figuring out how to batch process ALL of my pages files, and there are tons of them.

Having said that, I'm actually looking forward to moving to Word because now I won't have to create a Word doc for my non-Apple clients (virtually ALL clients). Oh, and if I'm not relying on Apple software, I won't need the wonky hardware, either. So, bye-bye, Apple.

Thanks for a lot of grief, Apple.

Re: sub and superscripts

They are more than just a baseline change... sub and superscipts are set in a smaller font.  What you can do in the new pages is to use the keyboard shortcuts to sub and superscript some text, then capture those as styles in the Character Style menu. That isn't preserved across documents though.

Glenn

I guess Apple wants us to use Adobe's InDesign for REAL work, now. And leave Pages for amatuers and goofing around, play-desktop stuff.

I was hoping Pages would be more like PageMaker 7, but I guess that's can never be ios compatabile, so it cannot be made Mac OS compatible.

http://www.tuaw.com/2013/10/28/poll-did-apple-ruin-iwork/

http://corporateintelligenceradio.com/2013/10/28/how-fragile-is-a-brand/

I'd like to know why the vote is so close.

Peggy wrote:

 

I'd like to know why the vote is so close.

Because in the grand distribution of all Pages users (+ curious pollsters who've never used Pages but voted anyway), those who invested the time to learn the tricks and powers of Pages 4.3 are in a minority.

Peggy wrote:

 

I'd like to know why the vote is so close.

 

Me too.

Is it possible that Apple knows what we dodn't realize? The world has completely dummbed down? We are in the minority? Nobody realy cares about professional work anymore, doing your best possible, pushing the limit?  Obviously not anymore. Good enough is just ok now.

That means that Apple (and their customers, 46% of them based on this frightening poll) has finally become Microsoft. Are these the new Apple clients that they raised through all their iPhone and iPad toys? That's the bar now?

The new goal is not to push it to have the best, the most powerful. THe new goal is to have the lowest common demoniator. Please the most customer, biggest market share, impressive for shareholders. Apple can 147billion in the bank but obviously not enough to make a decent word processor, oh wait a minute, they had one, they just took it away.

This is really sad