Q: Pages 5 features checklist

robogobo wrote:

 

Great!  Hopefully this means everyone can get back to their old files and continue working in '09 until the feature set is restored to 5.0.  Now we can all stop clamoring about Apple intentionally damaging users' work.  I was 1000% sure that wasn't the case.  After "Save As" was depricated, Autosave and Version History are part of a normal workflow (except for those who rejected the whole idea of auto save - but Apple didn't), which explains why files were not explicitly duplicated with the upgrade and no warning was issued. 

 

Does this work for you, Peter?  If so I hope you can see the value of actually using the product before jumping on the bashing bandwagon.

A function that allows me to restore damages made by the software in the first place is hardly my idea of good software.

This would be tantamount to introducing a car where the steering wheel does not turn left but where you are actually able to turn left if you pull a secret lever that's in the glove compartment

Would you say: "See, all you whiners? BMW DIDN'T REALLY want to kill you all, stop bashing it"

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"If software is free, you can't expect to be treated like a customer."

Hmm - does that now mean that Apple no longer has any customers given that OS X and iOS are both free?

Except for those running older versions ...

OK pinkuff.  I can see you're one of those who just wants to complian.  I tried.

Would you say: "See, all you whiners? BMW DIDN'T REALLY want to kill you all, stop bashing it"

Nobody died because of Pages, I hope.

Because lots of people love the new version.  They aren't having the same problems as those going to the discussion boards.

Peggy wrote:

 

I'd like to know why the vote is so close.

 

There are three problems with Pages with changing Pages for Professionals to Pages for Unicorns, all of which stem from Apple not using Apple software internally and not knowing how people use Apple software.

Apple took the Professional users by surprise, essentially discontinuing their software without warning. These users are unable to wait for developers to prioritize the restoration of features as if they were enhancement requests. They need mail merge, for example, today, not in the next version.

Apple replaced Pages for Professionals with Pages for Unicorns. Both are good products, but they have different constituencies. The users of Pages for Unicorns can migrate from Pages for Professionals with rejoicing. The users of Pages for Professionals cannot use Pages for Unicorns at all, and they end up cursing Apple.

The solution to this problem is very easy. Split the product into two. They really are two separate products anyway.

1. Reinstate Pages for Professionals (4.3) today. That solves all problems for professional users today. Restoring the deleted features requires no work, because they are already there.

2. Keep what I facetiously call Pages for Unicorn for its user community.

3. Develop and maintain the two products separately. Because they have different user communities, they need different feature sets. Splitting the product is the easiest way to avoid feature clutter. Users of Pages for Unicorns don't need mail merge or templates for invoices or novels. Users of Pages for Professionals don't need a template for a birthday card for Grandma or a super simple user interface.

Since there are two separate user communities with two sets of needs who need two feature sets, making it two products prevents feature clutter in both versions. Reinstating Pages 4.3 as Pages Pro solves the problem TODAY.

The only person I find who comes anywhere near to 'love' towards Pages 5 is this superficial review here.

http://mac.appstorm.net/reviews/office-review/pages-5-an-even-better-word-proces sor/

The comments beneath the post seem to indicate he is in a minority of one.

Thanks to all of you for the helpful information.  I too am absoutely disappointed with this release.  When I swtiched to Mac in 2011, I expected much better treatment than this.  And up until this ridiculous up(down)-grade, that had been the case. 

Could anyone here help with with a quick question?  I want to revert back to Pages 09 on my Mac and on my iPhone.  Sadly, I did not have a back-up of my Pages files except what was on the iCloud.  So I'm wondering, do I need to revert all my files back to Pages 09 before deleting Pages 5.0, or just the ones I've opened with Pages 5.0?  Any help would be most appreciated.  Thanks in advance. 

Just the ones you've opened and saved in Pages 5.  They weren't altered until you hit Save.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Thanks to all of you for the helpful information.  I too am absoutely disappointed with this release.  When I swtiched to Mac in 2011, I expected much better treatment than this.  And up until this ridiculous up(down)-grade, that had been the case. 

 

Could anyone here help with with a quick question?  I want to revert back to Pages 09 on my Mac and on my iPhone.  Sadly, I did not have a back-up of my Pages files except what was on the iCloud.  So I'm wondering, do I need to revert all my files back to Pages 09 before deleting Pages 5.0, or just the ones I've opened with Pages 5.0?  Any help would be most appreciated.  Thanks in advance. 

Thanks so much!  One last question: I'm hoping to pick up the iPad Air soon.  Will there be any way for me to have Pages 09 on it?  I do not currently own an iPad, so I do not have an iPad version of Pages 09 backed up anywhere (like I do for my iPhone). 

Unfortunately that's the hitch.  In order to have cross compatibility, you'll have to use Pages 5 with the new iPad apps.  Achieving this parity was the whole reason for the rewrite of iWork, and why it's so controversial.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Thanks so much!  One last question: I'm hoping to pick up the iPad Air soon.  Will there be any way for me to have Pages 09 on it?  I do not currently own an iPad, so I do not have an iPad version of Pages 09 backed up anywhere (like I do for my iPhone). 

Gosh, this *****!!  Hating Apple right now.  Yes, I've submitted feedback.  And yes I've (intelligently) flamed this version in a review on the app store.

robogobo wrote:

 

Unfortunately that's the hitch.  In order to have cross compatibility, you'll have to use Pages 5 with the new iPad apps.  Achieving this parity was the whole reason for the rewrite of iWork, and why it's so controversial.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Thanks so much!  One last question: I'm hoping to pick up the iPad Air soon.  Will there be any way for me to have Pages 09 on it?  I do not currently own an iPad, so I do not have an iPad version of Pages 09 backed up anywhere (like I do for my iPhone). 

Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  Half the users are asking for iPad compatibility and half are asking for robust features.  That's not possible now, but this was the best time, apparently, to bring them together and then add features back to both.  Just be patient.  I bet a solution will present itself.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Gosh, this *****!!  Hating Apple right now.  Yes, I've submitted feedback.  And yes I've (intelligently) flamed this version in a review on the app store.

robogobo wrote:

 

Unfortunately that's the hitch.  In order to have cross compatibility, you'll have to use Pages 5 with the new iPad apps.  Achieving this parity was the whole reason for the rewrite of iWork, and why it's so controversial.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Thanks so much!  One last question: I'm hoping to pick up the iPad Air soon.  Will there be any way for me to have Pages 09 on it?  I do not currently own an iPad, so I do not have an iPad version of Pages 09 backed up anywhere (like I do for my iPhone). 

robogobo wrote:

 

Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  Half the users are asking for iPad compatibility and half are asking for robust features.  That's not possible now, but this was the best time, apparently, to bring them together and then add features back to both.  Just be patient.  I bet a solution will present itself.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Gosh, this *****!!  Hating Apple right now.  Yes, I've submitted feedback.  And yes I've (intelligently) flamed this version in a review on the app store.

robogobo wrote:

 

Unfortunately that's the hitch.  In order to have cross compatibility, you'll have to use Pages 5 with the new iPad apps.  Achieving this parity was the whole reason for the rewrite of iWork, and why it's so controversial.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Thanks so much!  One last question: I'm hoping to pick up the iPad Air soon.  Will there be any way for me to have Pages 09 on it?  I do not currently own an iPad, so I do not have an iPad version of Pages 09 backed up anywhere (like I do for my iPhone). 

Robogobo, sorry to say this, but you are souding way too much like a corporate drone. Do you mind supporting a little the truths you are administering?

On exactly which piece of research is this statement "Half of users were asking for iPad compatibility" based?

How is possible that none - not one, except perhaps yourself - of these are chipping in here?

Let's hope you're right.

robogobo wrote:

 

Well, you can't have your cake and eat it too.  Half the users are asking for iPad compatibility and half are asking for robust features.  That's not possible now, but this was the best time, apparently, to bring them together and then add features back to both.  Just be patient.  I bet a solution will present itself.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Gosh, this *****!!  Hating Apple right now.  Yes, I've submitted feedback.  And yes I've (intelligently) flamed this version in a review on the app store.

robogobo wrote:

 

Unfortunately that's the hitch.  In order to have cross compatibility, you'll have to use Pages 5 with the new iPad apps.  Achieving this parity was the whole reason for the rewrite of iWork, and why it's so controversial.

weiland555 wrote:

 

Thanks so much!  One last question: I'm hoping to pick up the iPad Air soon.  Will there be any way for me to have Pages 09 on it?  I do not currently own an iPad, so I do not have an iPad version of Pages 09 backed up anywhere (like I do for my iPhone).