Q: How can I bypass the previous owners password on my iPad?

lpotter1 wrote:

 

 

And if this was so great, as you keep saying, why is Apple's Enterprise Department 8-10 days backed up for LEGITIMATE unlock requests? You heard that right all of the self-righteous people here, legitimate requests take 8-10 days because Apple has had THAT MANY LEGITIMATE requests! 

Or they're backed up because they don't have many people assigned to the job. Or, they're back up because it takes them a while to verify all the information. Or, correcting people's mistakes is just a low priority item for Support.

Yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night. Just keep telling yourself that. Either way, the legitimate requests have them bogged down. Bad policy the entire way around.

I can assure you this anti-theft security feature is a positive selling point for Apple and has been requested for years by companies and individuals.  Far more Apple consumers view it favorably than vice versa for obvious reasons stated in previous posts.  As for enterprise (including schools) issued IOS devices, assuming the IT department is competent, all IOS devices can be re-imaged for new users regardless of what state the previous user left it in.  Apple IOS is distinguishing itself from the Android market by offering much greater security.  Android is becoming inundated with viruses and other malware just like Windows. For those of us who highly value security Apple IOS is a great choice.  For those of you who prefer the Wild West and greater user flexibility (but greatly reduced security) Android is a great choice.  Let the consumer decide and stop complaining. 

You do realize that the lock requirement will be passed into law later this year (or early next) all manufacturers must fit it (apple are the first)

Then who will you whine at about screwups?

Congress?

blaket81 wrote:

 

I completely sympathize with the OP on this issue.  This is a stupid and asinine move on apple's part.  Ponder over this scenario.  A company buys an ipad and provides it to one of its employees, that employee configures this feature with their personal apple id and password.  Employee parts with company and company has no way whatsoever of contacting this person and now has a brick that THEY paid for.  I am currently in this scenario and IT IS RIDICULOUS!!  There is absoluetly no excuse for a feature like this.

There is no excuse for a company that does not take care of it's assets.

iPhone thefts have dropped 13% overall since the lock was fitted, and you think it is a bad thing?

Hilarious.

No, it can't. Apple's Enterprise Department must unlock it after verifying all your information. You are misinformed.

lpotter1 wrote:

 

No, it can't. Apple's Enterprise Department must unlock it after verifying all your information. You are misinformed.

Yep, Ipotter1 is correct. If an employee changes a lock code and does not provide the company with that pin, the company cannot restore it without Apple's assistance.

A pretty simple solution for this happening to Businesses, would be to allow a company/school to create a 'master pin' that can open the phone just in case.

Actually the Passcode is not as important. The Apple ID used to setup iCloud and in Turn Find my iPhone is what's important.

The employee can set the Lock/unlock Passcode all they want, and a restore would take care of it.

What they should never be allowed to set is the iCloud account that is what causes activation lock.

As long as the company sets that up themselves to a general company account, there should be no issues with the devices.

Phil0124 wrote:

 

As long as the company sets that up themselves to a general company account, there should be no issues with the devices.

Apparently some companies wish to ignore common sense and then expect the manufacturer to bail them out.

Philly_Phan wrote:

 

Phil0124 wrote:

 

As long as the company sets that up themselves to a general company account, there should be no issues with the devices.

Apparently some companies wish to ignore common sense and then expect the manufacturer to bail them out.

No true-er words have ever been spoken.

I was implying that the enterprise can lock down Settings so that their users can not change relevant security settings that prevent reimaging a device.

"You don't expect Ford to look for a stolen Mustang, don't expect any different from a computer company for their products."

This is a specious argument, because we're comparing (no pun intended) apples to drill presses.
Vehicles don't rely on the internet for full functionality. They are designed to travel independently from point A to point B, regardless of who's at the wheel. They utilize roads, which are static, unmoving, and inert. They do not require anything from the vehicle in order to function, nor do the destinations. A VIN number is not required to travel from your house to anywhere and back, as it serves no purpose in the inter-functionality of the elements involved.
Computers use a vast network of data-centric infrastructure to be at full functionality. In that data stream is a whole host of identifiers for client, server, etc. It takes essentially NO data space to transmit a computer's serial number from point A to point B...and C, and D, and so on. It is absolutely, unequivocally well within a computer companies' capabilities to keep track of every computer it makes; that computer's individual MAC address (or any other coded string of numbers as an identifier that they want to burn into a chip somewhere) can be utilized in myriad ways, at little cost.

Apple is the only entity that benefits from their draconian approach to security. The consumer ends up having to purchase a new item from Apple every time there's a theft, or every time a customer wants to enable security measures to which the keys are occasionally lost in daily life miasma. Granted, a successful security program would require the active participation of an Apple user, to the tune of taking a few minutes of their precious television watching time to update Apple with data concerning the sale of said customer's personal Apple product to another person. I'm not suggesting that the ownership of an Apple product be an effortless experience on the end-users' part; they would have to take an active interest and make active effort to keep records, file reports, etc.

People complain about Apple's pricing. Seems to me that if Apple wanted to tame that unrest they could offer a true, integrated, interactive, customer-friendly security function in the form of theft databases (if police departments can access pawnshop records on a daily basis, it can't be rocket science), which would add immense value to the product pricing structure. Don't kid yourself if you think an individual device can't be traced through the internet to a specific location. Ask any person convicted of child p-o-r-n-o-g-r-a-p-h-y.

My 1st gen iPad was stolen Wednesday night. I've had Find My iPhone on the case, but so far, nothing. How simple would it be to initiate an operation that identifies a device by its individual digits, rather than a customer's identity... in my case, the dirtbag probably got it home and wiped it clean before I could put a remote lock and "FU" message on it. Ergo, Find My iPhone is likely going to be waiting forever for an iPad that will never identify itself to the web again. Regardless of what machine it is now aligned with, the serial number (or some other identifier that cannot be altered on user end) can easily be located via ISP and then in turn could be found on or referenced to a database connected to law enforcement, who then could (or might) actually be spurred to make good use of our tax dollars, hone in on the location, and recover the device.
If you think this technology doesn't exist or is somehow cost-prohibitive, then you really haven't been paying attention to the US government and are in for a skid-marking surprise.

Apple could make serious value for the money and dramatically expanded their consumer base by offering a comprehensive way to track your over-priced gadgetry that took you quite some time to save for and have centered most of your life around. The next benefit to Apple from that would be expanded customer appreciation and retention, which leads to increased customer base, better market share, and more money for Apple to stash away in offshore accounts to avoid paying US taxes which would benefit us all.
But at least you'd get your s**t back.

Apple are not and will not be in the stolen/misused/lost property businees. But unlike other manufacturers they do actually make it more difficult for thieves to flourish.

Your s**t is your responsibility, keep that in mind.

First I completely understand your frustration.  It ***** having stuff stolen.   And what you describe is obviously readily possible.  No corporation will help retrieve stolen items - it must have to do with major liability problems when con artists fool well intentioned corporate action.

Dave Everhart1 wrote:

 

"You don't expect Ford to look for a stolen Mustang, don't expect any different from a computer company for their products."

This is a specious argument, because we're comparing (no pun intended) apples to drill presses.
Vehicles don't rely on the internet for full functionality. They are designed to travel independently from point A to point B, regardless of who's at the wheel. They utilize roads, which are static, unmoving, and inert. They do not require anything from the vehicle in order to function, nor do the destinations. A VIN number is not required to travel from your house to anywhere and back, as it serves no purpose in the inter-functionality of the elements involved.
Computers use a vast network of data-centric infrastructure to be at full functionality. In that data stream is a whole host of identifiers for client, server, etc. It takes essentially NO data space to transmit a computer's serial number from point A to point B...and C, and D, and so on. It is absolutely, unequivocally well within a computer companies' capabilities to keep track of every computer it makes; that computer's individual MAC address (or any other coded string of numbers as an identifier that they want to burn into a chip somewhere) can be utilized in myriad ways, at little cost.

 

Apple is the only entity that benefits from their draconian approach to security. The consumer ends up having to purchase a new item from Apple every time there's a theft, or every time a customer wants to enable security measures to which the keys are occasionally lost in daily life miasma. Granted, a successful security program would require the active participation of an Apple user, to the tune of taking a few minutes of their precious television watching time to update Apple with data concerning the sale of said customer's personal Apple product to another person. I'm not suggesting that the ownership of an Apple product be an effortless experience on the end-users' part; they would have to take an active interest and make active effort to keep records, file reports, etc.

 

People complain about Apple's pricing. Seems to me that if Apple wanted to tame that unrest they could offer a true, integrated, interactive, customer-friendly security function in the form of theft databases (if police departments can access pawnshop records on a daily basis, it can't be rocket science), which would add immense value to the product pricing structure. Don't kid yourself if you think an individual device can't be traced through the internet to a specific location. Ask any person convicted of child p-o-r-n-o-g-r-a-p-h-y.

 

My 1st gen iPad was stolen Wednesday night. I've had Find My iPhone on the case, but so far, nothing. How simple would it be to initiate an operation that identifies a device by its individual digits, rather than a customer's identity... in my case, the dirtbag probably got it home and wiped it clean before I could put a remote lock and "FU" message on it. Ergo, Find My iPhone is likely going to be waiting forever for an iPad that will never identify itself to the web again. Regardless of what machine it is now aligned with, the serial number (or some other identifier that cannot be altered on user end) can easily be located via ISP and then in turn could be found on or referenced to a database connected to law enforcement, who then could (or might) actually be spurred to make good use of our tax dollars, hone in on the location, and recover the device.
If you think this technology doesn't exist or is somehow cost-prohibitive, then you really haven't been paying attention to the US government and are in for a skid-marking surprise.

 

Apple could make serious value for the money and dramatically expanded their consumer base by offering a comprehensive way to track your over-priced gadgetry that took you quite some time to save for and have centered most of your life around. The next benefit to Apple from that would be expanded customer appreciation and retention, which leads to increased customer base, better market share, and more money for Apple to stash away in offshore accounts to avoid paying US taxes which would benefit us all.
But at least you'd get your s**t back.

Wow.  It sure took a lot of effort to compose that post.  Wouldn't it be much easier to simply take care of of your possessions?