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Q: Mavericks and memory (Ram)

Hi

 

Anyone else noticed how Mavericks uses memory ?

I have a new Macbook Air 2013 with 4GB of memory and after a short wile.

The system have used 3.99GB of the total 4GB Isn't that a big problem. Thats can't be right.

I would think that the computer would suffer greatly after a short time of use and the computer

needs to be restarted. If thats true. The new Mavericks ***** big time on Computers with less

memory. Or is there something i don't know.

 

Thanks

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 8:07 AM

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  • by evghenii,

    evghenii evghenii Nov 15, 2013 11:06 AM in response to berndfrombremen
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    Nov 15, 2013 11:06 AM in response to berndfrombremen

    Bei mir ist genau so! Ich habe schon entschieden wieder eine Downgrade zu Snow Leopard zu machen. Ist einfach unmöglich mit dem MAC arbeiten. Alles läuft so schwer. Ich habe insgesammt 4 gb RAM, und jetzt wenn ich das schreibe habe ich 3,99 besetz, und ich habe nur Safari geöffnet.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 15, 2013 11:10 AM in response to evghenii
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    Nov 15, 2013 11:10 AM in response to evghenii

    Try safe mode.

    Versuchen abgesicherten Modus.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 15, 2013 11:22 AM in response to evghenii
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    Nov 15, 2013 11:22 AM in response to evghenii

    Also evghenii, have you cleared out some of the crap that was mentioned in this post…

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/23783739#23783739

     

    Post another etrecheck report to see if there is still old items, the last report had 4 startup items that have been deprecated since 10.4!

    2 Apple background jobs have failed…

     

    evghenii wrote: at https://discussions.apple.com/message/23783739#23783739

     

    Startup Items:

              FanControlDaemon - Path: /Library/StartupItems/FanControlDaemon

              HWNetMgr - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWNetMgr

              HWPortDetect - Path: /Library/StartupItems/HWPortDetect

              StartOuc - Path: /Library/StartupItems/StartOuc


    Problem System Launch Daemons:

              [failed] com.apple.AOSNotificationOSX.plist

             [failed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist

     

     

     

    Is anyone surprised by Macs that perform badly when running software that uses methods Apple stopped recommending in 2005?

  • by berndfrombremen,

    berndfrombremen berndfrombremen Nov 15, 2013 11:51 AM in response to sjøgren
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    Nov 15, 2013 11:51 AM in response to sjøgren

    auch im SAFE Modus der gleiche Mist !

     

    MAIL geht gar nicht mehr auf !

     

    kernel_task über 4GB.

     

    Bildschirmfoto 2013-11-15 um 20.42.58.png

     

     

    Kernel Extensions:

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:

              [failed] com.apple.ucupdate.plist

     

    Problem System Launch Agents:

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [not loaded] at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist

              [not loaded] com.cocoatech.pathfinder.SMFHelper7.plist

              [not loaded] com.crashplan.engine.plist

              [not loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.autoupdate.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.configuration.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.intercheck.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.notification.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.scan.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.sxld.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.webd.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist

              [not loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist

     

    Launch Agents:

              [not loaded] at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist

              [not loaded] com.gopro.stereomodestatus.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.uiserver.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist

              [not loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist

     

    User Launch Agents:

              [not loaded] com.crashplan.javacheck.plist

              [not loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist

              [not loaded] com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist

     

    User Login Items:

              uHD-Agent

              iTunesHelper

              ChronoSyncBackgrounder

              Alfred

              Dropbox

              HazelHelper

              KiesAgent

              Android File Transfer Agent

              CrashPlan menu bar

              fuspredownloader

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Cineform

              Flash Player

              Hazel

              Java

              Perian

              ProCutX Server

              Tuxera NTFS

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              Default Browser.plugin

              Flash Player.plugin

              FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin

              JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

              QuickTime Plugin.plugin

              Unity Web Player.plugin

     

    User Internet Plug-ins:

              Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin

     

    Bad Fonts:

              None

     

    Time Machine:

              Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                 100%          com.apple.internetaccounts

                 100%          Mail

                  11%          mdworker

                   1%          WindowServer

                   1%          EtreCheck

                   1%          MenuTab Pro for Facebook

                   0%          imagent

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              3.17 GB  Mail

              249 MB   com.apple.internetaccounts

              106 MB   MenuTab Pro for Facebook

              74 MB    Finder

              74 MB    WindowServer

              57 MB    CalendarAgent

              49 MB    gamed

              41 MB    Activity Monitor

              41 MB    identityservicesd

              41 MB    Dock

     

    Virtual Memory Statistics:

              20 MB    Free RAM

              2.28 GB  Active RAM

              2.28 GB  Inactive RAM

              549 MB   Wired RAM

              334 MB   Page-ins

              820 KB   Page-outs

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 15, 2013 11:56 AM in response to berndfrombremen
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    Notebooks
    Nov 15, 2013 11:56 AM in response to berndfrombremen

    We need an etrecheck report when running in a normal boot, not safe mode (sorry if I wasn't clear on that).

     

    Please don't edit the report (unless it's a privacy concern) the top of the report also indicate startupitems & disk health etc.

  • by berndfrombremen,

    berndfrombremen berndfrombremen Nov 15, 2013 12:00 PM in response to berndfrombremen
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Nov 15, 2013 12:00 PM in response to berndfrombremen

    ich flippe echt bald aus !  Das System ist nicht mehr nutzbar. FinalCut bricht zusammen weil kein freier Speicher verfügbar, mehrere Anwendungen gleichzeitig öffnen geht gar nicht !  MAIL kann ich seit 11 Tagen nicht benutzen, komme nicht an meine gesepicherten eMails ran und habe mir schon AIRMAIL kaufen müssen, damit ich überhaupt lokal einen Mailclient nutzen kann. Das System ist ein gewachsenes System, seit 2008 installiert und immer problemlos upgedated worden. Und nun das ! Ein Neuinstall von SL oder ML geht eigentlich nicht, weil viel zu viel installiert ist, Plugins, etc. Vermutlich gabs den Mist deshalb umsonst, ist ne beta, eine andere Erklärung kann es nicht geben. Das sind echt alte Windows Probleme mit denen man hier kämpfen muss.

     

    NOCHMAL APPLE !!!! Ich kann nicht mehr ARBEITEN !!!! Und wenn man mal im Netz stöbert, bin ich da nicht der Einzige, der mit diesem Mist Memory Management Probleme hat !

  • by berndfrombremen,

    berndfrombremen berndfrombremen Nov 15, 2013 12:01 PM in response to Drew Reece
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:01 PM in response to Drew Reece

    the header of the report was the same than the report before.

  • by berndfrombremen,

    berndfrombremen berndfrombremen Nov 15, 2013 12:02 PM in response to berndfrombremen
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:02 PM in response to berndfrombremen

    Hardware Information:

              Mac Pro (Early 2008)

              Mac Pro - model: MacPro3,1

              1 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon CPU: 4 cores

              8 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT - VRAM: 512 MB

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0

              AirPlay: Version: 1.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3

     

    Startup Items:

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 0 days 0:24:8

     

    Disk Information:

              SAMSUNG HD204UI disk2 : (2 TB)

                        EFI (disk2s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                        Videoschnitt HD (disk2s2) /Volumes/Videoschnitt HD: 1,07 TB (618,3 GB free)

                        Mountain Lion HD (disk2s3) /: 925,33 GB (268,49 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk2s4) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              SAMSUNG HD204UI disk0 : (2 TB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                        Harddisk3 (disk0s2) /Volumes/Harddisk3: 2 TB (790,46 GB free)

     

              SAMSUNG HD103SJ disk3 : (1 TB)

                        EFI (disk3s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                        Backup (disk3s2) /Volumes/Backup: 815 GB (89,53 GB free)

                        BOOTCAMP (disk3s3) <not mounted>: 184,86 GB

     

              SAMSUNG HD753LJ disk1 : (750,16 GB)

                        EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

                        Harddisk2 (disk1s2) /Volumes/Harddisk2: 598,2 GB (366,34 GB free)

                        FOTOS (disk1s3) /Volumes/FOTOS: 151,48 GB (16,72 GB free)

     

              HL-DT-ST BDDVDRW CH08LS10

     

    USB Information:

              Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

                        MLK Trust Mouse

     

                        Apple, Inc Apple Keyboard

     

              Logitech USB Receiver

     

              Generic Ultra Fast Media Reader

     

     

              Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

     

     

    FireWire Information:

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

     

    Kernel Extensions:

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons:

              [failed] com.apple.ucupdate.plist

     

    Problem System Launch Agents:

     

    Launch Daemons:

              [not loaded] at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist

              [not loaded] com.cocoatech.pathfinder.SMFHelper7.plist

              [not loaded] com.crashplan.engine.plist

              [not loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.autoupdate.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.configuration.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.intercheck.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.notification.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.scan.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.sxld.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.webd.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist

              [not loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist

     

    Launch Agents:

              [not loaded] at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist

              [not loaded] com.gopro.stereomodestatus.plist

              [not loaded] com.sophos.uiserver.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist

              [not loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist

              [not loaded] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist

     

    User Launch Agents:

              [not loaded] com.crashplan.javacheck.plist

              [not loaded] com.spotify.webhelper.plist

              [not loaded] com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist

     

    User Login Items:

              uHD-Agent

              iTunesHelper

              ChronoSyncBackgrounder

              Alfred

              Dropbox

              HazelHelper

              KiesAgent

              Android File Transfer Agent

              CrashPlan menu bar

              fuspredownloader

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              Cineform

              Flash Player

              Hazel

              Java

              Perian

              ProCutX Server

              Tuxera NTFS

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              Default Browser.plugin

              Flash Player.plugin

              FlashPlayer-10.6.plugin

              JavaAppletPlugin.plugin

              QuickTime Plugin.plugin

              Unity Web Player.plugin

     

    User Internet Plug-ins:

              Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin

     

    Bad Fonts:

              None

     

    Time Machine:

              Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                 100%          com.apple.internetaccounts

                 100%          Mail

                  11%          mdworker

                   1%          WindowServer

                   1%          EtreCheck

                   1%          MenuTab Pro for Facebook

                   0%          imagent

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              3.17 GB  Mail

              249 MB   com.apple.internetaccounts

              106 MB   MenuTab Pro for Facebook

              74 MB    Finder

              74 MB    WindowServer

              57 MB    CalendarAgent

              49 MB    gamed

              41 MB    Activity Monitor

              41 MB    identityservicesd

              41 MB    Dock

     

    Virtual Memory Statistics:

              20 MB    Free RAM

              2.28 GB  Active RAM

              2.28 GB  Inactive RAM

              549 MB   Wired RAM

              334 MB   Page-ins

              820 KB   Page-outs

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 15, 2013 12:10 PM in response to berndfrombremen
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:10 PM in response to berndfrombremen

    In safe mode everything is disabled, we can't see which items are running & which are failing to complete loading.

     

    Sorry, a report in a normal boot is needed.

  • by evghenii,

    evghenii evghenii Nov 15, 2013 12:14 PM in response to sjøgren
    Level 1 (4 points)
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:14 PM in response to sjøgren

    I do not use it anymore, I deleted mavericks and installed Snow Leopard from my old original CD. Now i have another problem, can not install iLife software, do not know why...

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 15, 2013 12:17 PM in response to evghenii
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:17 PM in response to evghenii

    evghenii, start another thread, that issue doesn't belong here sorry & good luck.

  • by berndfrombremen,

    berndfrombremen berndfrombremen Nov 15, 2013 12:22 PM in response to Drew Reece
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:22 PM in response to Drew Reece

    sorry, take a look at my last screenshot !!!!

     

    MAIL - no reaction

    kernel_task: more than 4GB of Ram using

     

    THAT ist the Problem at this moment !!! same in normal mode !

  • by evghenii,

    evghenii evghenii Nov 15, 2013 12:22 PM in response to sjøgren
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:22 PM in response to sjøgren

    No, I do not start a new topic, just wanted to say that now in Activity Monitor I have appr. 2.4 Gb free memory. And Mac is running very good!

  • by berndfrombremen,

    berndfrombremen berndfrombremen Nov 15, 2013 12:30 PM in response to berndfrombremen
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:30 PM in response to berndfrombremen

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  • by berndfrombremen,

    berndfrombremen berndfrombremen Nov 15, 2013 12:33 PM in response to berndfrombremen
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:33 PM in response to berndfrombremen

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