OS X Mavericks - Awful Performance

So if you like Apple then some sick people in America compare you to murder victims? That seems pretty sick. Anyhow thanks. It's a bit off topic but some other dude brought it up.

Thanks

Pete

John, Mavericks did change the way those additional codecs are handled. The obvious example is Finder and Quicklook - both would show previews & playback because third party Quicktime plugins added support across everything that used Quicktime (most of the OS & apps).

Now AVFoundation doesn't support additional codec plugins which means no Finder or Quicklook previews. The only option is to convert to AVFoundation compatible formats, even the old Quicktime movies that had been supported for years.

Apple is getting somewhat restrictive in it's old age, it's their way or the highway.

This next thread is a more appropriate place for discussing video & 10.9 support. markr010001, I don't like the AVFoundation limitations either, but learn some history before you throw the 'Steve meme' at long term Apple users…

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5471254?answerId=24917728022#24917728022

To who ever deleted my last post to Petermac, I am just trying to explain what he is asking about the Kool-aid reference.

Please let me explain this to him before arbitrarily deleting my post please.

Petermac,

When people refer to Mac users drinking the "Kool-Aid" in a imagined sense, people are saying Apple has made this hypothetical "Kool-Aid" mix with their own brainwashing portion that Apple users have, hypothetically, drank that turns Apple users into loyal Apple sheep that buy anything Apple and that Apple cannot do or say a anything wrong.

Sort of synonymous with the term " Apple Fanboy/girl"

This is what this term really implies.

Petermac,

if you read this first, then you can report this as inappropriate after you are done.

I just want to clarify this for you when other users who post here use this reference.

Just let me know here that you have read this and understand after you report this post.

Not at all really. In the IT field we use the phrase "driking the koolaid" quite often. All we EVER mean by it is something more like "the blind leading the blind". Now before anyone accuses me of offending the visually challenged, please consider the phrase "metaphorically spaeking".

Forever, and in every possible realm, hucksters have and always will try to get people to "drink the koolaid". Everyone does it and it is not restricted to Apple, Microsoft, the government, etc.

Back to Mavericks; if it works for you, use it. If it does not, don't use it. There is a reason 90% of all clients are Windows and that reason is that it works for 90% of the people. Period. I use Mac becaise it runs on top of Unix (well sort od UNIX 🙂). I believe Apple will eventually fix the SMB, MacMail, and Screen Sharing issues I can easily reporoduce. And when they do I will be happy to fresh install Mavericks on my two MBP's. If they do not fix it prior to dropping ML from support, I will go in a different direction. It's quite simple, not "sick" as previously posted by some dude.

Mark

brokenr1bgolfer wrote:

It's quite simple, not "sick" as previously posted by some dude.

Mark

Nicely taken out of context. That was in reference to that Kool Aid nonsense. Still never heard it in this country. Mavericks will be improved with each update release, as was panther, Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion (not to even start off the Classic OSs). Why do you believe Mavericks to be any different?

Pete

Actually,

What I actually, originally stated is EXACTLY how this "Kool-Aid term came into being.

I do not know how old you are, but in case you are young,

If interested, do a search forJonestown and other cults like it.

And, while your at it, do a search for where the drinking the "Kool-Aid" reference really originated from.

Just saying that you need to get some facts before telling someone else their facts are wrong or incorrect.

Sorry for being Conpletely off topic here.

But someone is going to use a reference about Mac user drinking the Kool-Aid, I think it is best to know where that reference originally came from and what it all REALLY means.

I think you are going to be in for a shock!

Mark as inappropriate, if you choose.

All I ask is you should so some simple research on this reference before making assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid

Thanks for the info Michael. I didn't see the removed post. But have read up on it. I prefer to think of Apple users as the 'Titanic passangers who found a lifeboat'. 🙂

Cheers

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

Thanks for the info Michael. I didn't see the removed post. But have read up on it. I prefer to think of Apple users as the 'Titanic passangers who found a lifeboat'. 🙂

Cheers

Pete

I like that waaaaaay better!!!!

😁

MIchel

I have only been using a Mac for five years, and am now working in a place that is 90% Mac. This is a first for me in the business. Most people I work with are openly "haters" of all things Micro$oft. My last position I worked in a place that was pretty much exactly the opposite. I listen to what people say, and then make my own decisions as to which way to go. Both Windows people and Mac people have interesting and relevant things to say. For now I use Mac OS X, but i will tell you that underneath VMWare Fusion I am using Linux and several Windows OSes like WIndows 8.1, Windows 2008/2012 Server, etc. All operating systems are in play these days and why not "play nice together"? They are merely tools to get a job done.

Someone asked why I have a problem with Mavericks. When I migrate to a new OS I check compatibility between the products used on top of the OS (VMWare Fusion, Parallels, MS Office, and a vew others for me) prior to upgrading the OS. Well, as it turns out, ALL of my products run just fine on Mavericks. The SHOCKER about Mavericks is the NATIVE parts (again, SMB, Screen Sharing, MacMail) that are absolute failures. Normally one does not see native OS failures like these. Please let's not define "native" as a result of my post, ok? No telling where that might go. After all we went from koolaid to some cult activities earlier. 🙂

In all my posts, I have yet to hear one voice answering my three concerns about Mavericks. 😟

Mark

brokenr1bgolfer wrote:

After all we went from koolaid to some cult activities earlier. 🙂

You started that in this thread. Not us.

In all my posts, I have yet to hear one voice answering my three concerns about Mavericks.

Have you tried asking Apple here feedback?

Pete

The SHOCKER about Mavericks is the NATIVE parts (again, SMB, Screen Sharing, MacMail) that are absolute failures.

Apple had to completely rewrite their own implementation of SMB since Samba (the code they were using) is now licensed under GPL3. Apple does not agree with the terms of that license and dropped Samba.

With Mavericks, they have also switched to SMB as their primary networking protocol, replacing AFP. As code goes, it is very young and immature. But, they had no choice but to roll their own implementation. I imagine it will improve.

I find no problems with Mail, and I don't have a use for Screen Sharing.

Thanks for the post.

SMB: I am an open source proponent. I know that Apple seems not to be; too bad really. However if their implementation matures in time, I will use it. If not, I will switch to something that works for me.

MacMail: I only use it with google mail and exchange. Not sure which is the problem but I find that if I leave MacMail up, at some point it stops receiving inbound mail. If I restart MacMail, mail is updated as expected. But at some pont in time auto updates to my Inbox stop.

Screen Sharing (VNC): I use it and it works to perfection under Mountain Lion. I like it and i use it. Perhaps Apple will fix it in Mavericks.

For the last time, we all have to use what works for us individually. I am a UNIX/WebSphere Architect. I need an OS that is stable with a rich set of tools, and I prefer one that is Open Source friendly. Lately it seems Microsoft gets me better than Apple. Proprietary software and hardware will eventually die, or at least only be niche. I hate the idea of DOS over UNIX, but in the end...... whatever works best for me. 🙂

Thanks for the SMB reply but I already knew about AFP being replaced by SMB. Apple just needs to get SMB right. I look forward to it.

Mark

I should have worded my post better. Yes, I realize OSX never supported WMV, AVI etc "native" as it does .mov etc media. But if with Mavericks Apple has "moved on" from their third party support and preview capability of third party media, I'm afraid they will never go back. I am currently running Mountain Lion on my Retina 15 and getting all the functionality I require. It works perfectly. I backed down to Mountain Lion after experiencing Mavericks.

Mavericks seems like a move backwards for Apple, and frankly seems more like something Microsoft would do than Apple. Apple has always listened to what their customers want and need. Mavericks seems like their Windows 8 ("you'll take what we give you and like it") mentality.

That is still not worded very well and makes no sense. Sorry.

Pete

OK Pete....I'm a NASA analyst and media developer.

With Mavericks I get annoying "convert video" and no preview capability a al Perian etc.

It appears to me that Apple has dictacted "our media formats or nothing" with Mavericks.

This has left me with a large library of media development projects that I can not preview or play with Quicktime.

This is why I've stayed with Mountain Lion.

Is this more clear to you?

Thanks,

Mark