OS X Mavericks - Awful Performance

coffeebreath wrote:

I don't have the time to raise a RADAR, I don't get paid to fix Apple's software problems. Apple's employees do.

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Then tell them through their feedback page and spare us you histrionics. 😉

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

They wish only to go on anti-Apple rants and yet refuse to post details they are asked for out of the fear and embarrasment of finding out that it is most likely caused by their own third party installs.

Uh as long as I hate the way this thread is progressing I want to say a big NOPE to you. Here is an owner of a late 2011 macbook 13 with a fresh clean install with absolutely no significant third party installs experiencing huge show-stopping issues. Nope... not even Flash or anything else that doesn't come from the App Store. My only difference is perhaps that my computer is part of an AD domain.

I think this "hey its your fault pal" atitude is being a great obstacle in solving the performance issues and I really hope Apple is approaching those problems in a different mindset.

And yeah I have my own thread and already reported issues through the feedback forms. Huge issues with beachballing, slow access, itunes sound hiccups and most annoying occasional typing latency on Safari, messages or anything that uses the OS X core text libraries.

And thats on a fresh install. There is absolutely nothing on my system that indicates a 3rd party interferance.

Learn to read.

Cheers

Pete

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

I doubt it.

Really what is wrong with telling users to fix their Macs when they are reporting problems that none of can dublicate on our Macs.

Allan

Sorry if I've sounded too offensive but I kinda wanted to tell that while coffee isn't being considerate with the fact that this is a community forum he might be right about the problems.

Something is affecting the performance of a lot of users migrating from ML regardless of being clean installs or upgrades.

Well,

Then Why haven't you posted any of the info about your Mac, then?

How do you know if your system has anything that could be an issue with OS X Mavericks or not if you do not post required information?

Some users already have had problems before upgrading the OS thinking that upgrading the OS is going to solve those issues. Usually, it does not and, usually, makes things worse.

If you are having issues, post your Mac's specs.

There is the possibilty of an impending hardware and/or hard drive failure if you feel that there are no other conditions that could be affecting your Mac.

ulzeraj wrote:

Sorry if I've sounded too offensive but I kinda wanted to tell that while coffee isn't being considerate with the fact that this is a community forum he might be right about the problems.

Something is affecting the performance of a lot of users migrating from ML with our without clean installs.

download and run

http://www.etresoft.com/download/EtreCheck.zip

and report back with the output results.

Pete

Peter and Michel as I've said earlier its a clean install without any non-store apps installed. I'm posting Etresoft's result again anyway. The "UNKNOWN" login item is related to the mountage of the afp://fileserver/username by the way.

Hardware Information:

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2011)

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,1

1 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2 cores

4 GB RAM

Video Information:

Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB

Audio Plug-ins:

BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0

AirPlay: Version: 1.9

AppleAVBAudio: Version: 2.0.0

iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3

System Software:

OS X 10.9 (13A603) - Uptime: 0 days 1:27:15

Disk Information:

TOSHIBA MK5065GSXF disk0 : (500.11 GB)

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

Macintosh HD (disk0s2) /: 499.25 GB (424.02 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS31N

USB Information:

Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

Apple Inc. iPhone

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

FireWire Information:

Thunderbolt Information:

Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Kernel Extensions:

Problem System Launch Daemons:

Problem System Launch Agents:

Launch Daemons:

Launch Agents:

User Launch Agents:

User Login Items:

UNKNOWN

iTunesHelper

3rd Party Preference Panes:

None

Internet Plug-ins:

Default Browser.plugin

QuickTime Plugin.plugin

User Internet Plug-ins:

Bad Fonts:

None

Time Machine:

Mobile backups: ON

Auto backup: YES

Volumes being backed up:

Macintosh HD: Disk size: 499.25 GB Disk used: 75.23 GB

Destinations:

bkp [Network] (Last used)

Total size: 536.53 GB

Total number of backups: 24

Oldest backup: 2013-10-30 22:40:51 +0000

Last backup: 2013-11-03 22:31:49 +0000

Size of backup disk: Adequate

Backup size 536.53 GB > (Disk used 75.23 GB X 3)

Top Processes by CPU:

4% iTunes

4% WindowServer

2% EtreCheck

1% coreaudiod

1% Safari

1% fontd

1% com.apple.WebKit.Networking

0% usbmuxd

0% SystemUIServer

0% configd

Top Processes by Memory:

164 MB mds_stores

135 MB Safari

131 MB iTunes

115 MB com.apple.IconServicesAgent

66 MB Mail

61 MB WindowServer

61 MB mds

57 MB Terminal

53 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

45 MB Dock

Virtual Memory Statistics:

454 MB Free RAM

1.62 GB Active RAM

895 MB Inactive RAM

1.05 GB Wired RAM

1.59 GB Page-ins

476 KB Page-outs

Hmmm.... Still seems to be a problem with your attitude. May need tweaking.

Cheers

Pete

I saw on your other thread that Spotlight was continually indexing. If it still is, reset the index: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2409

coffeebreath wrote:

for free? you're funny or...

As for complaing, suck it up, Apple have screwed up with this release, and wasted a lot of my time, which is not free or really for wasting on here going in circles with people who can't do anything useful as they're not 'paid' or in position to influence.

The people who can do something about this, eg. the engineers need to hear that they've made a mess of Mavericks, heck all the Beta versions of Mavericks (I'm a dev so that suck that too) worked better than the GM.

I don't have the time to raise a RADAR, I don't get paid to fix Apple's software problems. Apple's employees do.

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***** to be you huh?

It looks like you need clue - the Apple engineers don't live here, go tell them your woes via the feedback form or continue to fail to post RADAR's.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

You can rant at the internet all you like, but the moderators delete off topic posts so you may as well echo it into /dev/null.

Uh can we drop the poison already? I really appreciate the time you guys are spending to help.

Anyway I have the impression that the sluggish behavior is related to disk access. The SMART status of my disk says "verified" and the disk isn't even 15% full.

Everytime iTunes has one of its hiccups I spot errors on the console related to "usbmuxd". This is from my latest thread:

10/30/13 21:50:03.943 iTunes[245]: Entered:_AMMuxedDeviceDisconnected, mux-device:107

10/30/13 21:50:03.943 iTunes[245]: Entered:__thr_AMMuxedDeviceDisconnected, mux-device:107

10/30/13 21:50:03.944 iTunes[245]: tid:12c5b - Mux ID not found in mapping dictionary

10/30/13 21:50:03.944 iTunes[245]: tid:12c5b - Can't handle disconnect with invalid ecid

The mux-device number keeps increasing. If those problems are related to specific hardware I think it may be really hard to duplicate.

I also had other problems with SMB2 access that made me fall back to AFP but thats another problem. Original thread here: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5501247?answerId=23651525022#23651525022

With less the half a GB of free RAM, I am going to say that perhaps, depending on how many apps you run simultaneously while working in another app, that it appears your MBPis starved for RAM.

Plus, newer versions of OS X use a lot more computer hardware resources than earlier versions of OS X.

Your MBP year and model can take up to 16 GBs of RAM.

Correct and reliable Mac RAM can be purchased from online Mac RAM sources Crucial memory or OWC (macsales.com).

Good Luck!

Barney-15E wrote:

I saw on your other thread that Spotlight was continually indexing. If it still is, reset the index: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2409

Already done that after deleting the svn repo files. While that happened with the svn checkout case wich is understandable I don't think it should be a justificative for bogging the entire system.

Something seems wrong and my bet is with disk access. Do you guys know a better way to test disk problems on OS X besides the smart status on system information? I've already fsck'd and repaired permissions a lot of times with no errors encountered.