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Q: OS X Mavericks - Awful Performance

Well, here we go again...

 

Apple releases an updated OS and it turns my Mac which is less than a year old into an underperforming little box of frustration for no apparent reason.  I installed Mavericks last night and the overall performance of my system has taken an absolute nosedive.  Seemingly every operation (booting up, launching apps, playing video/audio, browsing the filesystem, etc) is noticably slower.  I really don't feel like this should be the case considering the hardware I am running on which is listed below:

 

Mac mini (late 2012):

2.6GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7

8GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB

1TB Fusion Drive

 

I literally got this thing (maxed out on specs and $$$) less than a year ago and already Apple's awesome OS update has already devalued it.  Is this the strategy these days?  Release OS updates that run like crap on hardware that isn't even a year old in order to force people to keep purchasing newer hardware?  All of a sudden a system that left nothing to be desired in terms of performance is now exhibiting early-2000s behavior that includes stuttering video/audio, spinning beach balls galore, and apps that sit and bounce in the dock 15 times before it even launches and becomes useable. 

 

Is anyone else seeing this stuff?  The memory and CPU useage on my system looks fine to me so it's tough for me to just blame a bad install for all of this.  I can't see any reason why it's performing so badly now given all of the features Apple bragged about that are supposed to speed up your system (App Nap, Compressed Memory, OpenCL, etc).  This is worse than going from Snow Leopard to Lion, IMHO.

 

Apple - You can keep your Maps app, tabbed Finder, and the annoying notifications flashing in my face every two seconds if it means that my system will be able to perform well again.  I want my system back. 

Mac mini, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 9:49 AM

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  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 2, 2014 2:15 AM in response to Annoyed user5000
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    Mar 2, 2014 2:15 AM in response to Annoyed user5000

    Rubbish.

     

    Pete

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Mar 2, 2014 4:01 AM in response to Wasabi Bard
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    Mar 2, 2014 4:01 AM in response to Wasabi Bard

    Wasabi Bard wrote:

     

    I may have been misunderstood.

     

    I'm not implying that it happens everytime I toggle the WiFi. The sluggishness disappeared after the first time I toggled it off and then on again. It hasn't come back.

    You haven't been misunderstood, petermac87 just completely ignored the fact that he needs to see the same bug before a weird fix will achieve anything.

     

     

    I don't doubt that something is going on if toggling wifi makes it run better for both of you, I'd suggest you start a new thread, since this one is falling to pieces with pointless distractions.

     

    You & Stephen should see what is similar about your Macs and network setup, it's possible you have an edge case bug that occurs with certain network hardware, compare to ethernet networking if possible.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 2, 2014 4:29 AM in response to Drew Reece
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    Mar 2, 2014 4:29 AM in response to Drew Reece

    Please do not attempt to reply on my behalf Drew. I did not ignore anything and your comment does not make sense. But you sound like you have the complete fix for everyone, so that is great. Medals and points all round!

     

    Thanks

     

    Pete

  • by Omita,

    Omita Omita Mar 2, 2014 12:19 PM in response to brokenr1bgolfer
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    Mar 2, 2014 12:19 PM in response to brokenr1bgolfer

    Sorry to hear that you are having trouble?  With your expereince why not just install Umbuntu or another Linux distro?

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert Mar 2, 2014 12:37 PM in response to Omita
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    Mar 2, 2014 12:37 PM in response to Omita

    What makes you think that is any kind of solution?

     

    Allan

  • by brokenr1bgolfer,

    brokenr1bgolfer brokenr1bgolfer Mar 2, 2014 2:14 PM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 2, 2014 2:14 PM in response to petermac87

    Pete,

     

    Perhaps I should have not only capitalized, but bolded, italicized, and underlined "FRESH INSTALL". A fresh install (after initializing the boot disk) of Mavericks 10.9.2 on two different MBP's yielded problems with:

     

    (1) SMB, using finder

    (2) Screen Sharing

    (3) MacMail (forgot about this one in my previous post)

     

    This morning I performed a "FRESH INSTALL" of Mountain Lion (10.8.5) and guess what? Absolutely none of the problems arise.

     

    What can I say, dude? That is about as simple of troubleshooting as there is. As for the millions of users, consider what percentage are using SMB and Screen Sharing and your number might be a tad smaller. Also if you google "Mavericks and SMB" you will get many hits on problems. I gather that Apple updated SMB to their liking and did not make it backward compatible? What a shocker. One suggestion was to connect to SMB shares using:

     

    cifs://share.... as opposed to

    smb://share

     

    ..however that made no diffference to me.

     

    As for the other person who recommended Ubuntu all I can write is "puhleeeeeze". That is what a hypervisor is for. I use VMware Fusion as it is far superior to Parallels or Oracle's Virtual Box. But still I do not use Ubuntu; more of a CentOS person....

     

    I will stick with 10.8.x until Apple fixes Mavericks. As for a solution, I am not an OS "hater". I have no problem using OS X, Windows, or any other. I am a person who wants something that works. When it does, I have my solution.

     

    In fairness, I mentioned that I switched from the iPhone 5 to Nexus 5. There is no doubt that IOS is FAR superior to Android, however I wanted that bigger screen and I will put up with the shortcomings of Android for it.

  • by txlonewolf1,

    txlonewolf1 txlonewolf1 Mar 3, 2014 4:16 PM in response to Swift1113
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    Mar 3, 2014 4:16 PM in response to Swift1113

    Good evening,

     

    I saw advice to d/l & post results of EtreCheck in a new thread.  I have done so in:

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5960942

     

    Thanks in advance!

  • by wilston122,

    wilston122 wilston122 Mar 5, 2014 2:52 PM in response to Swift1113
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    Mar 5, 2014 2:52 PM in response to Swift1113

    Hi,

     

    I am having some performance issues since I have upgraded to OS X Mavericks. I do not know if these are due to Mavericks or other performance issues that I may be able to fix myself.

     

    I have used EtreCheck, which has given the following results -  but I do not know how to interpret them myself.

     

    Is there anything I can do based on these results to improve the performance of my laptop? It also seems like I may need more RAM as I am getting a lot of page-outs which may be causing the computer to hang?

     

    I would appreciate any advice anyone has.

     

    Thanks,

    Will

     

     

     

     

    Hardware Information:

              MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010)

              MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro6,2

              1 2.53 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2 cores

              4 GB RAM

     

    Video Information:

              Intel HD Graphics - VRAM: 288 MB

              NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M - VRAM: 256 MB

     

    System Software:

              OS X 10.9.2 (13C64) - Uptime: 3 days 0:6:34

     

    Disk Information:

              Hitachi HTS545050B9SA02 disk0 : (500.11 GB)

                        EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 499.25 GB (116.37 GB free)

                        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

     

              MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-898 

     

    USB Information:

              JMicron Samsung M3 Portable 500.1 GB

                        EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

                        Time Machine Backups (disk1s2) /Volumes/Time Machine Backups: 499.75 GB (129.31 GB free)

     

              Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

     

              Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

     

              Apple Internal Memory Card Reader

     

              Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

     

              Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

                        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

    FireWire Information:

     

    Thunderbolt Information:

     

    Configuration files:

              /etc/hosts - Count: 107

     

    Kernel Extensions:

              com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt          (0.0.74)

              com.avast.PacketForwarder          (1.4 - SDK 10.9)

              com.avast.AvastFileShield          (2.1.0 - SDK 10.9)

     

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              [System] com.avast.uninstall.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.rim.BBDaemon.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.trusteer.rooks.rooksd.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist 3rd-Party support link

     

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              [System] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.adobe.CS5ServiceManager.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.avast.userinit.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.divx.dms.agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.divx.update.agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.hp.help.tocgenerator.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.rim.BBAlbumArtCacher.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] com.trusteer.rapport.rapportd.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] net.culater.SIMBL.Agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

              [System] org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist 3rd-Party support link

     

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              [not loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

     

    User Login Items:

              iTunesHelper

              SIMBL Agent

              AppTrap

              Backup Engine

              AudioSwitcher

              StatusMenu

              HPEventHandler

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

              OVSHelper: Version: 1.1 3rd-Party support link

              Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

              OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.2.8 3rd-Party support link

              DivX Plus Web Player: Version: 2.3 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

              AdobeAAMDetect: Version: AdobeAAMDetect 2.0.0.0 - SDK 10.7 3rd-Party support link

              FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 12.0.0.70 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: Version: 11.0.06 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              Silverlight: Version: 5.1.20913.0 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              Flash Player: Version: 12.0.0.70 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

              iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

              SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              AdobePDFViewer: Version: 11.0.06 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

              JavaAppletPlugin: Version: 14.9.0 - SDK 10.7 Outdated! Update

     

    Safari Extensions:

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              DivX Plus Web Player HTML5 <video>: Version: 2.1.2.172

              YouTube Downloader: Version: 1.0

              iTube Studio: Version: 1.0.0.21

     

    Audio Plug-ins:

              BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

              AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

              AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

              iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

     

    iTunes Plug-ins:

              Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

              AppTrap  3rd-Party support link

              avast! Preferences  3rd-Party support link

              Flash Player  3rd-Party support link

              Perian  3rd-Party support link

              Trusteer Endpoint Protection  3rd-Party support link

     

    Old Applications:

              Microsoft Language Register:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

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              /Incompatible Software/Rapport/bin

                        rapportd:          Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

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              SLLauncher:          Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        /Library/Application Support/Microsoft/Silverlight/OutOfBrowser/SLLauncher.app

              Audacity:          Version: 2.0.5.0 - SDK 10.4 3rd-Party support link

                        /Users/[redacted]/Documents/CV's/Application Questions/Audacity/Audacity.app

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                        Microsoft PowerPoint:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        Microsoft Excel:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

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                        Microsoft Word:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        Microsoft Document Connection:          Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

              dynamiclinkmanager:          Version: 6.0.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

                        /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Common/dynamiclink/CS6/dynamiclinkmanager.app

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              SA Color Finesse 3 UI:          Version: 3.0.10(292) - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

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                        /Library/Application Support/Microsoft/MAU2.0/Microsoft AutoUpdate.app

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                        DMSLaunch:          Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

     

    Time Machine:

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              Auto backup: YES

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              Destinations:

                        Time Machine Backups [Local] (Last used)

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                        Last backup: 2014-01-10 19:27:25 +0000

                        Size of backup disk: Too small

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              Time Machine details may not be accurate.

              All volumes being backed up may not be listed.

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

                  25%          avast!

                   9%          WindowServer

                   7%          Google Chrome

                   3%          DivXMediaServer

                   1%          com.apple.prefs.backup.remoteservice

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

              61 MB          Google Chrome Helper

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              33 MB          Finder

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

              8 MB          Free RAM

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  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Mar 5, 2014 3:16 PM in response to wilston122
    Level 9 (50,881 points)
    Mac OS X
    Mar 5, 2014 3:16 PM in response to wilston122

    wilston122,

    Your RAM isn't sufficient at the moment (Page-outs should be 0), but that may be an artifact of the crap you have running.

    Avast is useless and using 25% of your CPU.

    Both Trusteer and the Rim software are known to cause kernel panics, but they may have updated it to work with Mavericks.

    SIMBL plug-ins are always trouble.

    I have no idea what these are, so I don't know if they cause problems:

    AppTrap

    Backup Engine

    AudioSwitcher

    StatusMenu

  • by wilston122,

    wilston122 wilston122 Mar 5, 2014 3:29 PM in response to Barney-15E
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Mar 5, 2014 3:29 PM in response to Barney-15E

    Hi Barney-15E,

     

    Thanks for taking a look. I only recently swapped to Avast because Sophos Antivirus was crashing when I tried to run a scan. The high CPU usage was most likely due to it running a full scan at the time I used etrecheck.

     

    Could you please advise me how I can act on the issues you've pointed out?

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Mar 5, 2014 3:44 PM in response to wilston122
    Level 9 (50,881 points)
    Mac OS X
    Mar 5, 2014 3:44 PM in response to wilston122

    Uninstall the software using the uninstaller application or instructions from wherever you got it from.

    I don't use any of it, so I don't have any idea where to find those things besides going to the developer's websites.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Mar 5, 2014 4:06 PM in response to wilston122
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    Notebooks
    Mar 5, 2014 4:06 PM in response to wilston122

    I agree with Barney-15E,

     

    Personally I think you may be better off erasing & reinstalling. If you decide to do this take a full bootable backup (not just a Time Machine backup) via CarbonCopyCloner, SuperDuper!, Disk Utility or any other Mac cloning application. Check it boots & looks correct, then boot from the 10.9 installer, erase the internal HD, reinstall 10.9 & re-add the applications you need.

    You could probably restore just the user home folders via Migration Assistant, but you will want to remove all your user login items & the user launchd jobs after you do this.

     

     

    The alternative is to clean up the current mess… (backup first).

     

    The kernel extensions are all capable of changing the way the OS works - you must remove them via their own uninstallers or recommended removal methods or find the updates & install them.

     

    The same is also true of the background jobs labelled [system] (listed as Launch Daemons and Launch Agents). Update or remove the related software.

     

    You also have 107 'redirected domains' defined in your /etc/hosts file, do you know why they are there and how to edit these? They may be harmless if you are using them for local web developing or something else, otherwise they may be redirecting domains that your software needs to access or blocking ad-sites etc.

     

    The preference panes can effect all users so once again update or remove them.

    If Safari or other browsers are slow you will need to look at updating or removing all those internet extensions.

     

    The user launch agents & user login items can effect your user account either test in a new user account (to see if issues reappear) or remove the login items & launchd jobs - even then apps may re-instate these items on next launch, so you will need to update or remove the related software.

     

    BlackBerry have an uninstaller (here is a thread with issues caused by BB - https://discussions.apple.com/message/25054361?ac_cid=tw123456#25054361)

     

    Avast is likley to have threads on here concerning how to remove it if there is no uninstaller.

    SIMBL has an uninstaller in the download http://culater.net/software/SIMBL/SIMBL.php

    You will need to search & read for rapportd, divx, HP's TOC generator, Apptrap, Facebook video…

    We can take guesses at where certain files are based on the report if you get stuck, but it really is best to thoroughly remove via the developers guidelines.

     

    To clean up properly will probably take as long as reinstall IMO, you'll probably eek back a little more disk space too which should help make the system a tiny bit quicker (empty spinning disks perform better).

     

    I'd also suggest you make a new thread, so people can focus on your issues just link it from here.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Mar 5, 2014 4:08 PM in response to Drew Reece
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    Notebooks
    Mar 5, 2014 4:08 PM in response to Drew Reece

    P.S.

    SIMBL is a tool that 'injects new code' into applications - it also has a system of plugins so you'll need to work out which you have installed & remove them too.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 5, 2014 4:13 PM in response to wilston122
    Level 5 (7,402 points)
    Mar 5, 2014 4:13 PM in response to wilston122

    wilston122 wrote:

     

    Hi Barney-15E,

     

    Thanks for taking a look. I only recently swapped to Avast because Sophos Antivirus was crashing when I tried to run a scan. The high CPU usage was most likely due to it running a full scan at the time I used etrecheck.

     

    Could you please advise me how I can act on the issues you've pointed out?

    I must agree with Barney and Drew. I had a friend bring his MacBook Pro over in a similar state to yours. Backed it up, did a clean install and only reinstalled his most used Apps, no anti-virus etc. etc. and he went home with pretty much a 'new mac' in his words, with Mavericks flying along. He had collected so much old crud over the years and simply left it there through every upgrade. He also migrated his personal media and settings. So with a decent backup of your data, it may well be worth a shot. There is an enormous amount of junk collected in your system.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by wilston122,

    wilston122 wilston122 Mar 6, 2014 7:20 AM in response to Drew Reece
    Level 1 (0 points)
    Mar 6, 2014 7:20 AM in response to Drew Reece

    Hi All,

     

    Thanks for all your help. I am going to reinstall my mac later and only replace the programmes I use regularly. I will see what kind of difference this makes.

     

    Regards

    Will

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