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SuperDrive Replacement

1933 Views 14 Replies Latest reply: Aug 17, 2006 5:24 PM by mrtotes RSS
Rick Pierce Calculating status...
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Jul 4, 2006 12:44 PM
Hi,

My DVR-104 SuperDrive no longer rips CDs, burns CDs, burns DVDs, and periodically can't read DVDs. Time to replace it. The machine in question is an iMac 15" Flat Panel, 800 MHz, running OS 10.3.9. I think the drive is either 1X or 2X DVD burn speed. I see there are many posts here regarding similar issues.

Apple Store won't sell me a parts kit, so looking aftermarket. I see that Pioneer drives are available fairly cheap, but are getting updated constantly. Compatibility is more important to me than speed. Also want to make sure the drive fits properly. I have the Take Apart information, so should be no problems there.

Can anyone recommend which Pioneer drive to buy for best compatibility and ease of replacement?

Also, will I need to use Patch Burn, or would this be avoidable if I upgrade to Tiger?

Thx Much!
Rick
iMac Flat Panel/iBook G4/PowerMac 6500, Mac OS X (10.3.9)
  • Donald Morgan Level 6 Level 6 (12,415 points)
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    Jul 5, 2006 1:14 AM (in response to Rick Pierce)
    See if this helps, this is only one of hundreds of different sites on the replacment.
    http://www.mcetech.com/pbg4dvdr8dl.html
    Look under Products.
    Don
    iMac G3 350 Blueberry 9.2 & Power Book G4. 17" OS X 10.3.9 AEBS w/Iomega Zip, Mac OS X (10.3.9)
  • mrtotes Level 6 Level 6 (11,810 points)
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    Jul 5, 2006 11:08 AM (in response to Rick Pierce)
    I think Donald may have overlooked the fact that you have an iMac G4, not an iMac G3(Slot) or iMac G5 (both of the latter use the laptop slot loading drives).

    Message was edited by: mrtotes: iMac G4 MCE Listing -- sorry my mistake...

     

     

     

    xlr8yourmac.com have an excellent drive database where you can read other iMac G4 users reports on fitting various drives. Currently the Pioneer DVR111DBLK seems to be nearly the cheapest DL DVD±RW drive out there plus it's fully compatible with Tiger and iLife. With a Pioneer drive it's a little hit and miss under Panther - you may or may not need Patchburn.

     

    I wouldn't purchase Tiger at this time of the year. It's a little long in the tooth now.

     

    mrtotes

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  • Big Rocco Calculating status...
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    Jul 5, 2006 6:17 PM (in response to mrtotes)
    Hi All,

    I want to upgrade my SD also. What does Apple offer for an upgrade?
    I still have a year to go on my warranty and do not want to void it.

    If I bought one of those drives that are mentioned in the links, who can I have install it?

    Thanks.

    COVRC

    iMac 20   Mac OS X (10.3.9)  
  • mrtotes Level 6 Level 6 (11,810 points)
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    Jul 7, 2006 1:01 PM (in response to Rick Pierce)
    So about $400 for Apple to do it and about $40 (inc shipping!) to do it yourself. I'd pay myself the $360 for the labour!

     

    BTW the new drive would be significantly faster. Who ever told you it wouldn't be faster was talking bollards. Admittedly the ATAPI bus speed wouldn't be faster but the burn speed would be and that's what really counts. Plus you'll get Dual Layer support too with the new drive. I suspect the $400 drive from Apple would only be single layer to conform with the original spec.

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  • Advocate DaveLs Calculating status...
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    Jul 13, 2006 9:17 PM (in response to mrtotes)
    I found a great link if you want to go with the original Pioneer DVD burners included with the iMac system at the following link:

    https://eshop.macsales.com/staticpages/index.cfm?page=superdrive072704/powermac072704.html&Title=SuperDrive%20Your%20PowerMac

    A long time ago, maybe 4 years, I remember that Macworld ran an article on how to upgrade your iMac flat panel. Some interesting tips were to use the original styrofoam that came with the flat panel iMac as a workbench protecting the screen.

    Personally, I have been tossing around the idea of installing an internal light scribe DVD burner by Lacie. It's about $20 more. My concern is that once installed, there will be some sort of hardware incompatibility preventing it from being used as a boot disk or from being used natively by the os for burning. Has anyone else tried this?

    BTW - I read on the Lacie website that "iDVD 6 supports LaCie external DVD burners running on OS 10.3.9 and newer and supports dual layer media. Older versions of iDVD will only recognize the internal SuperDrive built into the Mac."

    Hence my concern. I am going to try them next.

    iMac G4 800 MHz 17"   Mac OS X (10.4.7)   Mac Plus / PowerMac 6500 250 MHz with Sonnet 400 MHz G3 / PowerBook 165c
  • mrtotes Level 6 Level 6 (11,810 points)
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    Jul 14, 2006 5:13 AM (in response to Advocate DaveLs)
    Advoate,

    Welcome to Apple Discussions and thanks for your contribution.

     

    I'd advise you to have a good careful read of the following drive database before purchasing or installing a drive. Once you've installed a drive file a report - to help build up the data!

     

    Thanks

     

    mrtotes

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  • Advocate DaveLs Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)
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    Jul 14, 2006 8:26 PM (in response to mrtotes)
    Thank you, Mrtotes, for the link to the drive database. I didn't find anything immediately, but I'll try again, later.

    I'll let you know what happens when I install the new lightscribe drive. At the very least, I will have to convert it to an external drive rather than use it as an internal. Another concern, would be that I have to install iLife '06.

    Also, I found the article on Macworld. It can be found at:
    Upgrade the 15-inch flat-panel iMac

    Cheers.


    iMac G4 800 MHz 17" Mac OS X (10.4.7) Mac Plus / PowerMac 6500 250 MHz with Sonnet 400 MHz G3 / PowerBook 165c

    iMac G4 800 MHz 17"   Mac OS X (10.4.7)   Mac Plus / PowerMac 6500 250 MHz with Sonnet 400 MHz G3 / PowerBook 165c
  • mrtotes Level 6 Level 6 (11,810 points)
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    Jul 14, 2006 10:28 PM (in response to Advocate DaveLs)
    In this recent post (scroll down to 28 Jun) I've linked to an alternative installation guide (supplied by Apple to it's engineers); a $200 external Lightscribe drive for Mac with software for Lightscribe; a $40 internal drive and the free driver required if choose not to use iLife 06.

     

    mrtotes

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  • mrtotes Level 6 Level 6 (11,810 points)
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    Jul 19, 2006 2:47 PM (in response to Rick Pierce)
    Rick,

     

    Bizarrely this is an iTunes 6.0.2 under Panther issue!

     

    Here's the fix.

     

    mrtotes

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  • Loren Casey Calculating status...
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    Jul 31, 2006 9:16 AM (in response to mrtotes)
    I'm in the same boat as everyone else here it seems, having gone the step of replacing the Superdrive, a Pioneer, but after a false start (there's a pin thing on the back of the drive that no one seems to mention in other than computer speak that needs to be in the same place as the original drive, the drive will read, but it will not burn. In the system profiler, it says that it is not set up to burn (my language). Anyone have any idea how to get the computer to recognize the new Superdrive as the cd/dvd burner by the system?

    Also, part of what started this for me in the first place is how slow my iMac got in translating my cd audio discs into mp3s, going from about 4x or 5x to an impossibly slow 1x or so. Also even merely copying them wnet from an 18x to a 2x or 3x. Anyone have an idea why or how to fix? (not fixed with new drive.

    Any insight much appreciated.
    iMac G4 with SuperDrive, Mac OS X (10.3.9)
  • mrtotes Level 6 Level 6 (11,810 points)
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    Aug 17, 2006 5:24 PM (in response to Loren Casey)
    Loren,

     

    Have you installed Patchburn. It's required under 10.3.9 to enable non-Apple installed burners to work.

     

    mrtotes

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