Derick Fay

Q: List of deleted features in Keynote '13

Compiling a master list - please add yours.

 

Aperture photos no longer appear in Media Library

Format bar is gone

Perspective animation is missing

Links to Numbers file no longer work

Presenter Display options are missing : https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5470350?tstart=0

Quicktime export no longer skips skipped slides or allows manual advance

Links to other slideshows no longer work

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 12:06 PM

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Q: List of deleted features in Keynote '13

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  • by ctkjose,

    ctkjose ctkjose Oct 28, 2013 5:50 PM in response to Derick Fay
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    Oct 28, 2013 5:50 PM in response to Derick Fay

    Opening a Keynote 5.3 presentation the backgrounds in the master get tiled...

  • by Kurtz25,

    Kurtz25 Kurtz25 Oct 28, 2013 7:27 PM in response to Luke Christian
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    Oct 28, 2013 7:27 PM in response to Luke Christian

    Indeed. What is the point of running UNIX on a top-of-the-line CPU with gobs of RAM and SSD storage if not to do actual work?

    I'm a university lecturer in an information studies department. Virtually all of the professors in my department use Macs. They ain't playing Angry Birds on them. This is the platform for doing serious development work, and has been, now, for many years.

     

    Don't get me started on the Mac Pro, either. "It'll work great for the 12 video producers still on the platform after the FCPX fiasco!" Yeah, but it's not going to work great for any of the researchers I know. It's not going to be an easy sell on a grant application. The education industry tends to buy hardware in bulk, and is probably the only industry that buys Apple hardware in bulk. The direction this company is taking is wrong, wrong, wrong.

     

    Contrary to what the quarterly earnings report imply, it's the power users who drive adoption. When people look around and notice that anyone who really does a lot of computer-intensive work is using a Mac, they think, "I should use one too." When people look around and see iPads that cost a lot more than Android tablets, but don't really do any more, they think, "That Nexus looks pretty nice."

     

    The company's entire strategy is going to sink them. What if Ford noticed that people were buying more cupholders than cars these days and concluded that they needed to focus their efforts on cupholders instead of cars? "Cars? Only power users use those. The real money is in cupholders..."

     

    One of these products is much more expensive and much more durable than the other. That doesn't mean it's not important.

  • by Kurtz25,

    Kurtz25 Kurtz25 Oct 28, 2013 7:42 PM in response to jorhh
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    Oct 28, 2013 7:42 PM in response to jorhh

    I don't really need any of the "new" features since I would never even consider building or delivering complex presentations (such as mine usually are) on an iPad.

     

    Get with the timez, man! No one uses "computers" anymore! It's all about MP3 players these days!!!

     

    Surely the fact that inexpensive, novel devices sell more units than expensive, established devices is evidence of a sea change in technology, right?

  • by Kurtz25,

    Kurtz25 Kurtz25 Oct 28, 2013 7:50 PM in response to dsjjb
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    Oct 28, 2013 7:50 PM in response to dsjjb

    I finally had to move back to MS Word, and would have done the same with Keynote to Powerpoint

     

    Uhhh... If you think Powerpoint is superior to Keynote... You're not in very good company. Read the presentation design literature. Keynote is designed for giving modern presentations. Powerpoint is for giving presentations in 1990s undergraduate business classes. It's junk.

     

    I have one and a half years left on my Applecare, and even now I am looking forward to returning to Windows.

     

    If Windows does what you want and need to do, then that's where you should be. Switching to the Mac to run MS Office doesn't make any sense. The Windows version is the reference version, and is far superior to the Mac version. With the exception of Keynote, iWork isn't even in the same universe in terms of capabilities with MS Office.

     

    If, however, you need to run UNIX, but don't want to use an OS cobbled together and supported by grumpy trolls in their spare time, OSX is the place to be.

  • by Terrell Smith,

    Terrell Smith Terrell Smith Oct 28, 2013 10:02 PM in response to Derick Fay
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    Oct 28, 2013 10:02 PM in response to Derick Fay

    Yes, the new Keynote is stunning - I was stunned to see how dumbed down it is. Slide transitions have gone missing, such as Confetti and Fall, which I use. I will stay with the old Keynote 09 until they return features which have been stripped out.

  • by irrah,

    irrah irrah Oct 29, 2013 12:11 AM in response to Terrell Smith
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    Oct 29, 2013 12:11 AM in response to Terrell Smith

    Plz, wake up. There is no hope that Apple will ever restore features dearly missed here. Because the new paradim is 100 % authoring compatibility between versions. There is no way you can ever do things in web like you could do with mac os x -app. Therefore my only hope is a miraculous emergence of a new third party app I can edit my .keys with.

     

    Apple should have done like this: Keynote Light (same program features in  ios, web, desktiop) And Keynote Pro. A hundred dollar app meant for professional presentation creators and for mockupping interactive media. And free player for that.

     

    Apple's disease nowdays is non-continuity and hobbyism. Growing popularity has its caveats.

  • by CBRetail,

    CBRetail CBRetail Oct 29, 2013 2:48 AM in response to floerian1994
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    Oct 29, 2013 2:48 AM in response to floerian1994

    The presenter notes are now useless unless you are stood behind your machine presenting - which is the cardinal sin of presenting.

  • by Luke Christian,

    Luke Christian Luke Christian Oct 29, 2013 3:28 AM in response to Kurtz25
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    Oct 29, 2013 3:28 AM in response to Kurtz25

    ...it's the power users who drive adoption. When people look around and notice that anyone who really does a lot of computer-intensive work is using a Mac, they think, "I should use one too."

    Absolutely agree. Sadly the kids in Cupertino love life on campus and don't get out much, because, for all their conceptual inspiration, they show little understanding of consumer psychology.

    Their approach is spot-on in the context of big-hit 'awsome' products, but when it comes to thinking strategically about product evolution and long-term usability, the naivity of their idealism is exposed. Hence their continual craving for adulation, they want everything to 'super-cool' and for users to 'just love' everything they do (to deeply appreciate it would not be enough). So a big idea like 'digital integration', where all technology talks exactly the same language, captures their imagination in the way that developing deep long-term relationships with committed users simply does not.

    If Apple cannot learn to act like the grown-up company it has become, its success will rely solely on its ability to wow new audiences with awesome innovations every few months. Which, as the analysts have shown, is a precarious way to maintain business confidence!

  • by GifuMark,

    GifuMark GifuMark Oct 29, 2013 3:52 AM in response to Rick A.
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    Oct 29, 2013 3:52 AM in response to Rick A.

    Can you delete KeyNote 6.0? I've got both versions running now and would like to stick with the older version.

  • by dGungadoo,

    dGungadoo dGungadoo Oct 29, 2013 4:03 AM in response to GifuMark
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    Oct 29, 2013 4:03 AM in response to GifuMark

    Yes you can delete the new Keynote... Open your Applications Directory:

    Keyboard shortcut: Command key icon Command + Shift iconShift + A

     

    You will see a iWork '09 Directory:

    Screen Shot 2013-10-29 at 11.01.17.png

     

    Then you will also see Numbers.app, Keynote.app & Pages.app in the root directory of /Applications/ (with the new logos).

    Just drag the new Keynote.app (with the blue lecturn icon) to the trash.

     

    You will be left with the old Keynote.app

  • by GifuMark,

    GifuMark GifuMark Oct 29, 2013 5:44 AM in response to dGungadoo
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    Oct 29, 2013 5:44 AM in response to dGungadoo

    Thanks for helping me get rid of that peice of sh*#!

  • by DavesMac,

    DavesMac DavesMac Oct 29, 2013 6:41 AM in response to Derick Fay
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    Oct 29, 2013 6:41 AM in response to Derick Fay

    It's funny... The people who make presentations for a living tend to be "power users" of Keynote. I'd suspect that there are less people who simply dabble in Keynote (unlike Pages). So to dumb down Keynote seems to me a slap in the face to the majority of us faithful and passionate presenters.

     

    Don't get me wrong, I understand Apple's desire to make a version of Keynote that is interoperable between iOS and the mac. But they should NOT have abandoned us faithful users!

     

    What they should have done is this: 1) kept the current version of Keynote 2013 and 2) made a Keynote PRO version for serious presenters (and just abandoned the interoperability). Heck, I would have gladly paid $99 just for a more advanced version of Keynote 2009!

  • by jorhh,

    jorhh jorhh Oct 29, 2013 6:49 AM in response to DavesMac
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    Oct 29, 2013 6:49 AM in response to DavesMac

    DavesMac,

     

    I am totally with you on this!

    Interoperability is indeed (so far) of no interest at all to me.

     

    Moreover, once you start using non-Apple-standard fonts in Keynote on the Mac (e .g., like in my case, a company font), the presentations' formatting and look will most definitely be screwed or skewed on iOS devices.

     

    I would have gladly paid, say, US$99 for a pro "powerhouse" version of Keynote/iWork. (Mr Cook, are you reading this?)

    As it stands, hoewever, I will stick with iWork/Keynote 09 and keep my fingers crossed.

  • by Kyn Drake,

    Kyn Drake Kyn Drake Oct 29, 2013 6:50 AM in response to Terrell Smith
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    Oct 29, 2013 6:50 AM in response to Terrell Smith

    Confetti is still In Keynote 6.

  • by Paul Bristow,

    Paul Bristow Paul Bristow Oct 29, 2013 6:52 AM in response to DavesMac
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    Oct 29, 2013 6:52 AM in response to DavesMac

    Agree completely.

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