Q: List of deleted features in Keynote '13

can't select  non-contiguous text (say if i wanted to subscript a bunch of numbers at once).

sorry if it has been mentioned.

Totally agree with everybody about this fiasco.  Apple seems to be gearing everything down to the lowest common denominator.  They are more interested in getting a massive number of users that barely open the application than satisfy those of us who really depend on decent software for our living.  For now I am sticking with the old version.  I spent the past 10 days or so putting together a project in the new one and it just isn't efficient.

The worst part is that Keynote (and Pages and Numbers) have lost all the functionality that made them 1000% better Microsoft Office! This is spectacularly stupid.

> Line spacing is no longer infinitely variable and user defined - a VERY limited set of predetermined spacings is now only option.

Expand the "Spacing" panel and you'll be able to set fractional line heights

Alt + arrows no longer duplicates the object

Can no longer copy-paste from keynote to illustrator as vector graphics

Curve/shape key points no longer stick to edges of the objects when dragging, thus hard to make precise shapes

Starting to edit points of a shape (double click) is painful – it tends to start inserting text instead

Object inspector doesn't stay on the same tab and is constantly switching instead

Very unstable with pasted images – got everything mixed up and was forced to rework the whole presentation

Shapes pasted from illustrator still not editable

Disappointed...

Is there a way to install the previous version after it was deleted?

• Alt+arrow - never tried this one, but yeah, now you have to use a mouse/pointing device to Option+Drag
• I don't have Illustrator on this computer, what do you get? It should be PDF if Illustrator is taking the correct image off the clipboard
• Not sure I understand this one. Curves are edited differently now, but you can change back to the old way (bezier) in the Preferences.
• In the old Keynote, double-clicking always started inserting text. Clicking a second time on an "editable" object (more like click/pause/click) made the handles available. In the new one, you have to double-click RIGHT at the edge to edit points. click/pause/click has been removed. HOWEVER, thanks for pointing this out because I was thinking that every time I needed to edit points, I'd have to bo back to the menu and do "Make Editable" again.
• You mean how it's contextually sensitive and doesn't show you ALL the options all the time? Yeah, that's going to be a bit of a change, but I'm learning where the new stuff is.
• Is this when you're dragging in a group of images to have a different one on each slide?
• Being able to edit objects pasted from Illustrator would require Adobe to make changes on what they're placing on the clipboard. Unfortunately, as far as I know, Apple hasn't published that format

The previous version wasn't deleted, it's in your Applications folder under iWork '09. This post tells you how to remove the new one. https://discussions.apple.com/message/23577256#23577256

> customise presenter display gone

This is by far the biggest problem for me. I'm continuing to use the old Keynote, which was left intact, thank god. I actually use presenter notes. It's the BIGGEST element of the presenter display for me, taking up 2/3 of the screen, while thumbnails of the current and next slide and timing elements take up 1/3 (rather than the other way around).

It's absolutely astonishing! As if someone from Microsoft quietly snuck into the iWork area at Cupertino, deleted all the useful elements of Keynote, Pages and Numbers, randomised the keyboard shortcuts, threw in a bucketful of bugs, and snuck out again.

Like, if you were going to design iWork to be user-unfriendly and filled to the brim with a frustrating user experience, you could not do a better job!!

It simpy beggars belief that Apple thought this new version of iWork was a good idea! It's a model of simply heroic stupidity! I am aghast. What was Apple thinking? Indeed, is Apple thinking?

Thankfully, reading about all the idiotic shortcomings in this "new" version of iWork has prevented me from installing it. So... Phew!

But I so wanted this long, long-awaited update to be good...

Please, make a better keynote. I need every day... I'll learn PowerPoint... after 25 y with Mac...

Yes, Keep Using iworks '09

Has anyone tried using Omni Graffle (http://www.omnigroup.com/omnigraffle) as an alternative presentation software?

I have used Omni Graffle in the past for adding graphics to Keynote, but the latest version seems to offer broader capabilities and the Pro version even has a Keynote-style presenter mode.

I'd be interested in hearing feedback from anyone who has tried it, or perhaps there are some other suggestions for alternatives to the latest dumbed-down and imasculated version of Keynote? Otherwise its back to PowerPoint prison for me...

Suspending judgement but either (a) they're missing a lot of stuff or (b) the actual set of significant missing features isn't nearly what people here and elsewhere made it out to be.

I think the Mavericks version of Quicktime no longer allows manual advance for a Keynote export.  You see, even my old Quicktime exports made in iWork 09 no longer function with hyperlinks and manual advance.  Thus, as more people upgrade, I cannot use this feature anymore.  Oh, all that work...

In their corporate plea to stop the embarrasing barrage of scathingly accurate 1-star reviews of iWork apps, Apple makes no promise to fix what's truly broken: Apple's vision for Keynote.

Rather than being the vehicle by which users could create stunning, cinematic presos capable of emasculating an army of crouching PowerPoint users, Keynote now aspires to let users be mediocre on multiple devices across platforms.

*yay*

Why Apple's promise to throw Keynote users a bone doesn't give me hope:

http://phyzblog.blogspot.com/2013/11/why-apples-promise-to-throw-keynote.html