Q: I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

hotwheels 22 wrote:

..do you mind if i just ask you what this issue is? it may help me just download (and buy) one or the other. ...

If you look back at p. 82, down the page until you see a note from 'grdh20' followed by a reply from me.  That will give you some detail/context — that's where the characterization of "compromising" the space to the right of the name came from.  (This is talking about List View and the empty space AFTER the end of the name text, in the "Name" column, TO the start of the column immediately to its right.)

I can speak to my problem:  Using XF I could not multi-select a series of items in an open List View window with a simple mouse drag over them (i.e., by starting with a down-click in the empty space to the right of a name and sweeping down over several other items).  In XF the first click 'grabbed' the item, even tho' I was clicking on the empty space, and it started to move the item; TF lets me do things the good ol' way.

The other problem (as I understood it -- could be wrong) was like this:  Look at an open List View window, with nothing but closed folders -- lots of folders, so that there isn't any white space at the bottom of the window.  Have one folder open so you can see its contents.  Now try to drag an item from that folder and drop it 'over' the folders shown at the Finder window's root and have that dragged NOT go into one of them (unless you specifically want to so you pause/hover).  With XF when you drop the item it goes into the folder you're over when you do the drop; with TF it drops into the root of the open window, as expected.

Now, this "compromised area" problem could very well be fixed in XF.  It has been a couple of weeks and has been hashed over a bit in this thread.  If the XF developer is listening I'd think s/he might have tended to this.  (But no one has reported that it has been addressed in XF.)

I finally moved to Mavericks in April 2014. (Too many mission critical apps needed to get compatible before I made the jump.)

The Tags are the worst part of the new finder. Labels had power of instant visual feedback. Like so much else in Apple's new design ethos, functionality has been replaced by a pathological monomania for minimalism. Minomania?

In any case, they are putting form over function. Labels were a powerful part of my daily workflow. Tags are a crappy daily annoyance. Apple once again is offending their power users to get kids to buy macs to use as silly gaming toys. I guess Scully could have made a bigger impact on the world by selling sugar water after all.

Make sure Apple knows your opinion at:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

They state they do not monitor these forums.

MtD

i'd echo megs comments and suggest you please take a minute to post to the link. one of the things i love about minimalist aesthetics is that it is about getting things down to the essential functional components. however in this case it is obvious they were very wide of the mark. it's like they /skinned/ a un-useful workflow with a minimalist interface and thought that somehow it would sell even if it didn't work so well. bit like a volkswagen engine in a ferrari...

thanks man. big help and much appreciated.

Has anyone tried XtraFinder? it's adds features to the system finder (not a standalone app!). i've read it can actually return colored labels to mavericks, but I can't test it because I've already reinstalled mountain lion.

Just google XtraFinder, 1st result.

If anyone has tried this with Mavericks please let us know! Could be the answer we're all looking for

I've had XtraFinder for about 3 weeks an love it! I was skeptical (my nature), but pleasantly surprised that it seamlessly integrated with Finder. XtraFinder is free, whereas TotalFinder—a similar program with added features is $18—is the answer. I even prefer XtraFinder's deeper, non-gradient colors to the original! Couldn't be happier (and, relieved). That said, I'd still prefer Apple to re-implement colored lines. Coloring Desktop folders doesn't work for me for some reason—I don't know why—but I've learned to live with that. Anything's better than those tiny, inconspicuous dots. 

I tried XtraFinder with Mavericks, and I can say now it is my preferred method for returning labels to mavericks.

upsides:

- it's a finder plug in, so you don't have to run a separate app

- it works quite well in column view

downsides:

- labels do not work in open and save dialogs

- labels look pretty terrible in icon view and on the desktop. unusable to me, but fortunately you can turn those cases off

it also comes with some other nice finder features you can turn on and off.

as far as solutions for colored labels, i much prefer it to pathfinder, fork lift, or any other standalone app

suckaboo wrote:

Has anyone tried XtraFinder? ...

If you look back a half dozen message before your posted question here you'll find some exchanges (mine and others) where there's a comparison of XtraFinder and TotalFinder.

ah thanks. and sorry. i thought i was checking in on this thread enough to know. guess not! sorry to clutter it up

To those of you who have used TotalFinder, do application open/save dialogs show color labels as well?

I'm thinking the same thing...

I have sent feedback to Apple Re: Labels as well.

We have 56 TB of images on a pair of Promise arrays, and have been using labels for over a decade to help code the content and quality of the images. Tags in lieu of labels makes parsing these images so much more difficult.

I'll add my agreement.

Tags are great.  BUT THEY ARE NOT LABELS.  THEY DO NOT FILL THE FUNCTION OF LABELS.  THEY NEED TO BRING BACK LABELS.

It is about VISUAL search.  This is a VISUAL system.  We'd be using DOS if we didn't care about visual.

PLEASE bfing back Labels

WELL SAID!!!!!