Q: I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

Boring. You will achieve nothing here with ridiculous posts like that. You are achieving nothing but wasting your time. I don't think Apple are losing any sleep over your rants.

Bye

Pete

The only thing you could argue is "opinion" is

Well I won't argue then, we'll just disagree.

I have no desire to cause Apple to lose sleep, I can't imagine why you think this might be the case.

Nor have I any intention of boring you: If you're bored, why not find something else to read somewhere else?

I mean that constructively, obviously.

You needn't say if it bores you.

Not everyone is using a Mac at home. Often it's in an office setting and upgrades are necessary, and eveyrone updates to the same OS.

Also, even if it is a personal computer at home, if you want to take advantage of all the other great features, yes, you are forced to accept a few you don't like. And yes some ditched ones were useful. In column view these tiny dots are useless. Nothing stands out even when tagged RED. I have an entire office not happy with this change, we even used it on a very busy server with long lists to signify by color what pretained to what departments. Useless now, very disappointing.

I don't like adding 3rd party apps to the systems, esp. on office computers—just asking for trouble, more things to remember to update for IT's and will always be an underlying possible incompatibility with future updates. I try to keep systems as pure as possible and as many updates as possible coming direct from Apple. Less troubleshooting that way.

Why tell me, I am not the one(s) having a problem.

Read the posts of the person you reply to, it helps the response stay on topic.

I am on topic. You asked someone "I'm curious as to how you were forced" to upgrade. I'm explaining how some people are forced to upgrade. Topic is about upgrading and losing the major colored keys around the document names and having them replaced with worthless tiny dot tags.

And you have given no explanation of forced. Just because you want it does not mean that you are forced, just impulsive

Sorry about my bad english. Many people who are making defense for the new OS about the tags system, says is just a cuestion of taste. Okay, but I say... if you can choose to turn the folder's background color, and you choose black, or anyone dark colour as well... how can you read te ****** letters (archives' name). Is that a cuestion of taste?. I mean, or is a question of stupidity from Apple?.

Hate you Mavericks!

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pattii55 wrote:

 

Not everyone is using a Mac at home. Often it's in an office setting and upgrades are necessary, and eveyrone updates to the same OS.

 

I don't like adding 3rd party apps to the systems, esp. on office computers

Very few offices use Numbers, most use MS Excel.

If you are an employee and the business upgrades, you upgrade. Esp. since the upgrade was necessary for other applications used by the business to work properly. Those were more important than if color labels were still visible. If it's a home computer the owner has the right to decide to update. I if your computer is owned by your employer, you will use the OS that works best for the majority of needs. So yes, in that case an employee would be forced to upgrade. Not that the color labels are as critical as the other needs of the update, but they are extremely useful and missed by many.

By third party I didn't mean to imply not adding major 3rd party apps like the Adobe Creative Suite or Microsoft Office, I mean more like the gadget type apps, meaning things that were created to "fix" a feature in the OS or in an Apple app. Adding something Apple either removed or didn't have. I tend to try those more at home than in a work setting if one really has a feature that I need.

I agree with you a few posts back: '...In column view these tiny dots are useless. Nothing stands out even when tagged RED...'  Even if the name column is wide enough to show the tag dots, no way to sort on the tag color. You must find another method to discriminate the department. Or the tags must have their own column.

But in general I find the actual tag method in Mavericks much better than the earlier full color method (which you also could not sort).

Lex

I agree - For two main reasons as I said above:

1) I expect Apple to make something that doesn't need tinkering with just because one is a programmer.

2) I expect to install specialist things under the bonnet but never Finder aspects: That is Apple's job.

Why not ?

Because when I move on to a new machine, I have to spend a day or two migrating all these little fixes to do Apple's job for them.

The main thing I see: Apple's main focus is turning towards mass entertainment. That's OK if that is where they think their future lies - but it risks chasing away at least some of their traditional users, including this one here.

LexSchellings wrote:

 

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But in general I find the actual tag method in Mavericks much better than the earlier full color method (which you also could not sort).

Lex

of course you can sort by tags and/or labels.

simply look in the view menu of the finder.

JamesConnolly wrote:

 

The main thing I see: Apple's main focus is turning towards mass entertainment. That's OK if that is where they think their future lies - but it risks chasing away at least some of their traditional users, including this one here.

Apple has never shyed away from "chasing away at least some of their traditional users." They didn't hesitate to get rid of the floppy disk drive. They chucked the DVD drive without a second thought. Apple to this day does not support Blu-ray. They re-did iMovie. They produced the new Mac Pro. They have done many things that outraged "traditional users" over the years. They simply don't care about losing old users. Kowtowing to traditional users holds them back. It's why Windows had become the bloated monster it was until Windows 8. And Windows 8 has really torked off the 'traditional users' of Microsoft. The third party apps that 'fix' your annoyances do it by using undocumented entry points, jiggering with system files and the like. They are very prone to causing trouble and breaking with each new update.

It's you who are behind the eight ball. You can easily retrograde back to what you find to be acceptable tags. But Apple and its developers will march forward and eventually you will be left completely behind. You can switch platforms (I have no idea if or how Windows does tagging.) Of course there's the matter of putting out lots of money to replace software.