Q: I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

Since I posted here before complaining about not having colored labels, I want to chime in and say that XtraFinder works brilliantly and does not take over your entire system like Pathfinder did (which is why I wouldn't use that software).

Ok I tried Both Total Finder and Xtra finder .  They only bring back the color bars when you enter a folder normally.

But If you're in Say, Photoshop or some other program and want to either "Open" a new file from that program or "save as "  Your full color file names are lost  you're looking at the same lousy interface that comes with Mavricks.. it goes back to dots.  Does apple have any idea how much harder I have to look to save something now?   These bunch of Bunglers completely ruined what was a perfectly fine labeling system in favor of something they thought was slick.  Well it's not slick , it's completely destroyed my workflow.  If it was actually a real improvement that would take some getting used to I wouldn't be complaining but these dots are atrocious. 

This isn't any different from the way it used to work.

If you are opening/creating a new file or saving an existing file as a new file name,  the old system never color coded it automatically, either.

WIth the old system you still have to color code the file after its creation in either icon OR list/column view.

How would OS X know what color you would want to color code a new file as it is being created?

Apple's old color coding system never worked automatically. You always had to manually color code files manually. You can still color code groups of files in same color as in the old system (using the Shift key to select appropriate files) using either XtraFinder OR TotalFinder.

Not true, I'm home now and am on Mountain lion. All the files that I colored are still colored in my Photoshop "Save As " Window.

Yes I'm aware that I have to color tag them in the folder after I've saved them.   I'm saying that all the color tags you made prior with the plug in are not visible in the "Save as" or "Open" windows. It goes back to displaying crummy old Mavricks dots.  I don't blame the plug in . I blame apple for this mess.  I shouldn't need plug ins for their IOS to get my old colored files back.    I wonder if Yosemite will be as obnoxious.  Did they name it that because users will be steaming when they try to label their files I wonder.

Okay,

Yes, you are correct.

In various open or save windows in applications, the colored folders do not show in those particular windows.

The file folder/name/list view/coulumn view color coding only shows up in the Finder application, itself.

Got it.

It is probably this way in both apps (XtraFinder and TotalFinder) because there are no actual application hooks programmed to access anything from the OS X system folder.

Ok, I can make due with the plug in for now because it's better then nothing but I'm due for a new home IMac.  I will most likely get a higher end 27inch or a large laptop w Retina display.  I do not want these color dots on my future IOS. I deal with folder structures that are folders within folders within folders within folders.   When I color a folder it's to highlight it's importance.  It's for me to quickly see the latest version of a project so I can jump into that layer structure.    I don't want  every folder that I turn the color red  to be accessible in a side bar.  That's not organization to me , that's just chaos.  I hope Yosemite resolves this.

Don't count on it.

Well then they're going to install Mountain lion on my new machine .  It would literally take days for me to make tags for all the different categories and all the different folders and files within those categories. And even if I put myself through that when I'm viewing my folder structure in columns the color dots are worthless. They just don't grab your attention the way the full highlight does.  This is just Apples way of forcing you into some nut job organizational system they cooked up out of nowhere.  It might be nifty to make a label for your vacation photos and graduation photos and then be able to pull each category up in one big mess at once.  But I'm working, I'm not playing games here.

Yeah, it's too bad XtraFinder doesn't have the hooks to dominate Finder or at least give you the option in their preferences to apply colored labels and/or folders to all resident programs and apps in your computer.  Who knows they might be working on it but like a fine wine it takes time.

Vectorat wrote:

 

Well then they're going to install Mountain lion on my new machine .  It would literally take days for me to make tags for all the different categories and all the different folders and files within those categories. And even if I put myself through that when I'm viewing my folder structure in columns the color dots are worthless. They just don't grab your attention the way the full highlight does.  This is just Apples way of forcing you into some nut job organizational system they cooked up out of nowhere.  It might be nifty to make a label for your vacation photos and graduation photos and then be able to pull each category up in one big mess at once.  But I'm working, I'm not playing games here.

That is not going to happen easily.

New Macs, now, have Mavericks installed on them and, in the near future, upcoming Yosemite installed on them as the minimum installed OS X version.

You will not be able to install OS X Mountain Lion or any other older OS X version on any current and future Macs.

If you want to install an earlier OS X version, you maybe able to install Mountain Lion to an external hard drive and run it from the external hard drive and /or you will have to use virtualization software like VMWare Fusion, Parallels Desktop or Virtual Box and install OS X Mountain Lion within that virtualized environment to run it from the internal hard drive of a new Mac.

There will no other way to run an older OS X version on a new Mac.

Your only other option is to purchase on older Mac (either new/refurbished from Apple or used) that can still run OS X Mountain Lion as either a newer, upgraded  OS X version or as it's minimum OS version.

Thanx, you really know your stuff.  It's been very informative reading you, MichelPM and Vectorat's back and forth discussions.  It's great when I am able to read civil discussions that don't get snooty or sanctimonious and gives good information.

Well said, Peohguy.

Grrregerrr,

I  really mean this, coming from a fellow outdoorsman and/or mountain man, that is a compliment, Thanks.

May the bear grass be in bloom and the huckleberries ripe!

Peohguy

Apple Doesn't understand that they hurt  me personally as a designer working within a massive folder structure.  These people that say they adapted to these dots aren't pushing the limits of what they're doing on a mac. They don't have five programs open at once. When you have to sort out 3d files, png sequences, AI,Psd, AE, Comps, Pdfs that are all interconnected within a folder structure that can't be moved or renamed or all your links will be lost then we'd understand each other.  Designers are visual people.  **** even Xcel has full colored cells for a reason.

  It's not a matter of not "liking" the colored dots, it's about not being about to find anything and wasting precious minutes trying to locate a file in a massive folder structure because your full color labels are gone forever.

The plug in only half works.  Unfortunately it stops working when it matters most.. when you're trying to find a file to open within a program or searching for the right folder to export or save to.  I've read through the pages here and I'm not alone.  Just because apple won't change what they've done, doesn't make what they've done right, good, or the next big thing.   This bizarre disorder some have of always defending the new because, well , it's new and we need to get over it, is absurd.   New is only defensible when it's an improvement over the old, which in this case, it isn't.   Some may not like say the new iphone icons, but they're still functionally solid and haven't screwed up my UX.... These dots are a UX nightmare. Period.  It's not debatable.  You might be satisfied with how quickly you can find your squishy face photos  you made in photobooth, but that's why we're talking past each other.

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