Q: I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

AndrewC1264 wrote:

 

It will, hopefully, restore Labels to what they need to be, not just at the Finder level,

You don't want a tweak, you want a system hack.

Thank you Tony for correcting someone yet again... it is so greatly appreciated and oh so necessary.

The point being... many professionals in my line of work who require this form of organization have obviously searched out this thread.... over 15K views and many replies on the subject.

And posting "Pathfinder" just doesn't cut it.

Thanks.

Someone asked for a "3rd Party Tweak", I gave an option.

Why did you find is necessary to comment? 

Let the user make his own decision, (Pathfinder has a 30 day free trial period)

Obviously I was pointing out that Pathfinder is *NOT* an option because it does nothing with the application dialogue boxes. Pretty clear.

AndrewC1264 wrote:

 

Obviously I was pointing out that Pathfinder is *NOT* an option because it does nothing with the application dialogue boxes. Pretty clear.

For you, what part of Let the user make his own decision didn't you understand?

(BTW, do you comment in any other threads?  Have you tried at least once to help another user?)

...keep tilting at those windmills

I have to add my name to the list of people who HATE the new tags in Mavericks. What used to be the perfect way of quickly seeing what stage my clients' work folders were in (based on color) has now become a white list of folders with little colored dots next to them. I get the functionality of mutiple tags, but I've never had any problems finding my files based on the name search. Don't TAKE AWAY functionality to add new functionality.

While I'm at it, what's with having to hold down the Command Key to get a folder to open in a new window? Even if I want it to open in a new tab, I STILL have to hold down Command. To me this is useless, just like the List View was. Stop taking stuff away to add new stuff.

Hi Kevin,

Another unsatisfied customer! And I agree with you about the folders farce,too.

Out of the twelve software developers I contacted a few weeks ago,to ask if they could possibly add something to their applications,to sort out the dots and folders,only one responded,and that was Marcel,at TinkerTool,and he told me that his software will not be including a fix,because TinkerTool is not about providing such fixes.

FEEDBACK    http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Pete

Hi Wizard_Magic_Spell. Thank you for your good effort in contacting various software developers. I guess there has to be money in it for developers to spend their time. Rightly, they dont see much of a market in 'fixing' the OS that is provided by Apple. The label issue does seem to have irritated a fair number of rational people and it is to be hoped that Apple will look at throwing whatever switch they need to, so that we the users can have labels if we want them. I have some applications which still recognise the labels as applied before the OS update and then dispays them as previously displayed.

On another front, the vanilla re-install of 10.9 seems to have fixed whatever issues I was having with treacle slow OS activity for every operation and I now have my iMac working as before. The whole day downtime spent backing up and reinstalling appears to have paid for itself. The load averages of the current OS (Uptime command in terminal) are still larger than I have ever seen but then the OS is probably required to do far more than it did when BSD Unix was first offered as the basis for the embryo OS X.

Hi Jeff,

Glad to read your Mac is working as before. As I have mentioned previously,my installation of Mavericks was unstable.However,had it worked OK,I would still have come back to Mountain Lion,for the coloured labels (and for the ability to double click a Finder folder for it to open in new window).

The below is a part-copy of what I have submitted to the thread 'Mavericks Finder: How Default to Double Click Opens New Windows' I think some of what I have submitted to that thread applies here,too. It starts off with my response to someone saying how many millions of users have downloaded Mavericks,compared to how many downloaded Mountain Lion,within such a short timespan............

..............Yes,correct.Do you think this could have something to  do with the fact that Mavericks is a free upgrade,and that Mountain Lion  wasn't? If something is offered free,more people will take advantage of  it. Yes? No?

This  farce that Apple has created reminds me of food manufacturers. In the  UK,Kellogg's changed their recipes,to make their products 'more  healthy'. Many people,and I don't mean millions of people,complained  about the new recipes' horrible tastes. Heinz messed around with their  formulas for tomato ketchup. Again,people,a minority,not a  majority,complained. So,what do you think happend? Did these two  companies have a "the public are wrong,we are right" attitude,or did  they say "the customer is always right" and revert to the recipes  previously enjoyed? Yes,it was the latter. And we,in this thread want  Apple to reinstate some things we have previously enjoyed.

It's  been stated that people at   Apple never read these forums,threads,or  whatever you wish to call them. How do these people know this to be  fact,eh? How? If I worked for Apple,and I implemented such  changes,I  would want to read what people think of my product,be they good or bad  comments.

To  those who like Apple's changes,maybe you are in the wrong thread. In  fact,I know you are in the wrong section of Discussions. So,have you  thought about setting up a new thread,calling it 'I Love Apple's Changes  to Finder (and Dots that have Replaced Coloured Labels)'?

Some people are here,of course,to antagonise.

So,one  final time.if you are here to antagonise,then go away. You are  unwelcome. Go start your own thread,and see if you get as many followers  as there are here.

For those who are here,like  me,for a good reason,then keep your opinions coming,whilst at the same  time,letting Apple know of your dislike for certain features of  Mavericks,which,I'm sure,you have already done,but just in case you  haven't..........http://www.apple.com/feedback/http://

It was  dry helpful. Thank you. But a bit wordy. Hey but aren't you using Mountain Lion and not Mavericks? How can these things be affecting you? You still have coloured folders.

Cheers

Pete

Peter,

I don't wish to squabble. If my use of the word 'antagoniser' does not apply to you,then it doesn't apply to you. Let's keep this brief,eh? To-ing and fro-ing messages is not going to solve anything.

To reiterate: I did install Mavericks on day 1 of its release,like many did,even you,probably. It was unstable. Finder crashes,Finder disappearing,failed restarts. If Mavericks had ears,it would have been offended at what I was shouting at it! However,I am so peeved at the loss of the coloured folders and the inability to double click a folder to open in a new window,that I'd have gone back to ML,even if Mavericks was stable.

I have mentioned earlier that I am not even suggesting Apple takes away the tags and the new folder actions. If people like them,fair enough. What I am saying is that surely a System Preference could be implemented,you know,to give us a choice of how we want things to look and behave. Agree?

I will paste this message in the other forum,with your permission,to show everybody that we are not enemies,just two people with somewhat slightly different views. Deal?

Thanks, Wizard... Someone (you?) also reminded us of how expensive our Macs are, that we pay a lot of money for the features that set Mac apart from the rest.  For the life of me, I can't see how highlighting can be viewed as archaic.  The sorting dots and the highlighting labels are two distinct functions and labels needn't be sacrificed for tags.  We need our labels back now.  iOS7 was disappointing--design and function--and now Mavericks.  I'm not re-installing ML.  And I tried changing some folder icons, as a poster suggested.  The icons are "ok", but didn't have the great function of a fully colored file or folder name.  Let's keep the feedback going to Apple.

Hi Pontotoc Peg,

Great ID you have there. Like it.

Yes,it was me (and a few others) who commented on the price of Apple products.

I am not even being selfish about this. As previously stated,those who like the tags,fair enough,enjoy them. However,there are many users who dislike them,who want labels reinstatiing. Is that too much to ask of Apple?

And don't get me started on the tagging metadata system now being used in Mavericks' Spotlight. For heaven's sake! I'm thankful I backed up my Mountain Lion system and am able to use it again.

Discussion is all useful, and I don't even mind the sniping back and forth. So, far, there is little actual "flaming." On to the substance of my reply, which is a series of questions, in part for the OS-knowledgeable hackers: Can Apple, if it so deigns from its lofty throne, simply add labels to the tagging metdata system? I mean, it doesn't hurt to have tags included as part of labeling does it? You could make them mean the same thing as labels, and have the added sorting capability.  And will adding line and folder coloring to tags be easier both on programmer and user, than re-instating the folder system in addition to tags? I mean, won't that add now a confusing new layer?

Re tagging itself. I am not sure how I responded when labels were first introduced, but I recall it as a gradual discovery, increased use, and added usefulness kind of thing. I don't think I had been waiting for it. I wonder if the same thing will happen with tagging. I am imagining good combinations of tags with ;abel/folder/file coloring.

On the other hand, maybe that will be confusing too. I don't know.