Q: I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

He was in one of my color-labled files, so I guess that he is gone forever now.

He is in Minneapolis, in a red folder.

the last word (some of us hope)

DABbio wrote:

 

....tags as currently structured do not do the old job well at all.

That's if the old job was to highlight a file.  If the old job was to organize files, then Tags is by far better than the old way.  Before it was not possible to give a file more than one label. 

Tony T1 wrote:

 

DABbio wrote:

 

....tags as currently structured do not do the old job well at all.

 

That's if the old job was to highlight a file.  If the old job was to organize files, then Tags is by far better than the old way.  Before it was not possible to give a file more than one label. 

Let me try to explain this one more time, then I might give up. Your statement is perfectly correct as it stands, Tony. It is just that for many who miss the old, simple labels function, the old job was not to organize files. I use a traditional heirarchical structure, obsessively compulsive to some who prefer to just leave their files in a heap, or a cloud, and use tagging or keywords to extract the ones that they need. No, the kind of person, me for example, who wants to get his work done, to use the computer and files for output or pleasure of looking at the contents, or who knows what other purpose, just want a simple, quick device for grabbing the hot files that are already in proccess and close at hand, in view, on the desktop, wherever, hastily looking over the orange files, perhaps occasionally checking into the blue files, or the green files for review or for relecting compulsively on our "done" deeds, and leaving purple and colorless files to die in the dust. We're busy people, some of us, who do not have time, and do not want any layer of obstacles between us and a task at hand. For this group of end users, for whom the computer is a means and for whom the file structure is relevant only for the short term, colored labels were a boon.

I admit that tagging has great value to many people, and even to people like me, when a search of files is necessary, it would be nice to have them tagged. But for many people, that is infrequent enough of a task, that the investment of tagging, keywording, etc., is not worth the return. And certainly not worth the sacrifice of the old technique, a sacrifice which was utterly unnecessary.

The reality here is that colored folders and tags do entirely different things, comparing them is maybe not apples to oranges, but close.

But they (colored folders) are gone, feedback to Apple is the best way to get your message across.

Here, here. I too need the old label system. Interfacing with folks still using Mountain Lion is confusing. That system doesn't support multiple "tags" or labels so which one will show up is a mystery if I use two. Also, we used the labels as a file coding system and the new tags just don't work the same and the small dots are too small a visual cue compared to the old lables.

Bring back the labels, please Apple. Add tags, I think that's an interesting idea, but labels were a great simple tool.

The one that will show up on a system that uses labels is the last label you apply.

How tags and labels behave and interoperate is well defined.  The system is designed to fall back "gracefully." Read John Siracusa's detailed review and history if you want to know the specifics:

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/8/#tags

Read the linked page, and then the next 3 pages which go into background/history/interoperability with previous OS X versions.

Chiming in to say "me too, bring this back Apple" and stomping your feet in this thread will do no good.  Tags is what it is in Mavericks, and Labels is gone.

Christopher Osolin wrote:

 

 

 

Bring back the labels, please Apple.

It has been mentioned many, many times. But may need reposting. Apple are not here. This is a user to user forum. There is a discussion going on you are welcome to join in. If you wish to make your displeasure at the dropping of features by Apple or wish to request them back then you will need to post Feedback through the correct channel and hope that enough others do the same so that Apple 'may' give it consideration again sometime in the future.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Cheers

Pete

Christopher Osolin wrote:

 

Here, here

Where, where?

Christopher Osolin wrote:

 

Here, here.

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Pete

i am actually accessing my 100 GB dropbox account from my MBP (Mavericks) and my Mac Pro (Mountain Lion). which is actually an interesting empirical experiment in getting work done.

finding files and folders from the Mac Pro with the old colored labels is a breeze. i see them immediately and they are clearly labeled with colors to quickly get work done.

trying to find things in DB off the laptop is a real drag. i have to spend time searching for the name of the files purely based upon the names and then i see the little colored dots off to the right somewhere (and how far away these signifiers are from the things they are supposed to add significance to is - apparently - totally dependent upon how /big/ my finder window is and how wide the name column is) - so these tags now show up as almost a sort of afterthought and are basically worthless to me.

this means that there is no comparison for me if we just take a look at the amount of /time/ it takes me to do my work. if we go ahead and factor in the added mental and physical effort and aggravation i have to expend in trying to navigate in the "upgraded" UI this disparity only increases...

that said, i /do/ like how a multiple selection in mavericks gives me a nice slick rounded-edge-grey-rectangle. this looks super hep. but of course this just makes me pine for a new OS that does this for /single/ colored files and folders. then i get to dreaming and i imagine an OS with softer colored labels that i can customize and use like i did in Mountain Lion...

<sigh>

not sure why rounded, softer colored label signifier couldn't be incorporated as an option to the 'dot' aspect of the new "dot-tag" functionality...

wow. ars technica. thanks for the link william.

i will have to check that blog now.

very nice and thorough write up.

thanks...

btw - does anyone know why these tags show up /after/ my file or folder name in Finder but on my desktop they show up /between/ my folder or file icon and the folder or file name?

on the one hand i can't /find/ these things when i am in finder because they are trailing way behind my file/folder name and on the other hand it is wicked annoying to have my "signified" files or folders indented off to the right (as if they were a subfolder or indented clause) so that i cannot read them in line with my other files and folders on my desktop.

i mean - is there some significance to the difference in implementation here, is this a bug on my system or is there a way to control the display of these new tags in these two "environments"...

also, is there a way for me to MOVE the column for the dot all the way to the left so i can see the signifiers for the files easier in Finder? right now they are like hanging off the end of the file or folder name somewhere off in space...