Q: I hate the new tags in Mavericks, need coloured folders!!

I accept that you have what you have Csound1, I don't automatically "Lie!" away what you say.

The question is how you got it.

One you need to check against standard installations, then isolate the differences.

I'd take the Apple Store as an absolute zero install.

And you have the TÚAW article and numerous other articles to show the history of what Apple did.

Peter

Maybe neither of you did anything and one is a clean install and the other was an upgrade.

Mine was the clean install, on a brand new Hard Drive no less, and I have been trying to establish what Csound1 has on his System/s.

Obviously any previous changes would have been transferred in the upgrades.

He hasn't said who has actually done the Installations or how. Or if they used Apple Configurator which would make them all clones of each other.

Peter

Mine are all upgrades, the office is equipped with 2011 iMacs, all 30 were upgraded from a single standard image  (volume licensing). My own machines (2 MBP, 2009 and 2011, 1 iMac 2011 and 2 Mini's 2012) all were upgrades from ML but some started earlier than that, the 09 has had everything from 10.6 onwards. I also have access to a few client machines, 1 of which shipped with 10.9. They are all the same.

I never do clean installs, upgrades work fine for me.

For what it's worth my Mavericks was an upgrade and pages a clean install and I don't have "Save as" in the menu of any iwork apps unless I hold down option.

Not very consistent is this.

Do you have anyone who may have done the Terminal or Keyboard shortcut change in Mountain Lion?

Which is a while ago.

If you look in System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts

Are there any for Pages?

What happens when you go to TextEdit's File menu?

Peter

I did all the upgrades to my own machines, I have a guy who I pay to look after the office machines when required. I keep the office machines sewn up tight, every user has a standard account, only I decide what gets installed, and what doesn't. 3rd party software is kept to a minimum, all machines use SugarSync and have a copy of TeamViewer installed, I use the latter two items on my machines as well.

Nope, they are as standard as they could be, a few use Wacom tablets, maybe ten of them. I use a satellite internet dongle for the 2009 MBP (this is my daily driver). The Minis are just media servers, used headless.

TextEdit? Always a good test.

Peter

PeterBreis0807 wrote:

 

Do you have anyone who may have done the Terminal or Keyboard shortcut change in Mountain Lion?

 

Which is a while ago.

 

If you look in System Preferences > Keyboard > Shortcuts

 

Are there any for Pages?

Nope, no user created shortcuts, no shortcut changes at all.

What happens when you go to TextEdit's File menu?

 

Peter

I use TextWrangler so let me look, be right back.

Same as the others:

Let me check the iMac.

All right, a change. The iMac (10.9.1, build 13B42, same build as the version on the MBP) does not have Save As, it has Duplicate. Unfortunately it does not have Pages or Numbers 5 (it never had any version of iWorks installed) so I will have to install a copy and check that.

Curious that TextEdit is changed.

That suggests a System change.

Did the standard Installer image include all the Apps that you use?

Peter

At the office yes.

Then I don't think your Installer is virginal.

I can't tell as I can't check, it but it sounds like you are reproducing a "mother" installation.

If it contains the modification they all do.

Peter

At the office that would be true, we made the image but, my own machines are more individual, downloads from the App Store. And I have now installed Pages on my iMac and it does not show Save As.

Confusion reigns at the moment.