Your System has Run out of Application memory

I sincerely tried to explain how you can get help on these forums in your own thread darryl-1…

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5998902?answerId=25373524022#25373524022

You could be right - Apple may have messed up your system, unfortunately your other posts don't give us enough to go on, we are here to try to help but it takes two to tango.

If you really want to take it to Apple's door book a Genuis bar appointment or call Applecare, otherwise you are just telling people who mostly don't work for Apple that Apple has problems. We neither care about that or can do anything to alter it (even if it is an actual fact, which it isn't).

We can however give you the benefit of our experience (for free, on our own time) & we can give you a shot of changing how broken your Macs are.

For the final time…

Would you like to show us what is installed on one of those 4 failing Macs?

Run this & post the report to your thread…

http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

Hardware Information:

MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2010)

MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro6,1

1 2.66 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 2 cores

8 GB RAM

Video Information:

Intel HD Graphics - VRAM: 288 MB

NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M - VRAM: 512 MB

System Software:

OS X 10.9.2 (13C64) - Uptime: 9 days 6:2:10

Disk Information:

ST9500420ASG disk0 : (500.11 GB)

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

Darryl 11 (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 499.25 GB (142.52 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

MATSHITADVD-R UJ-898

USB Information:

Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

FireWire Information:

Thunderbolt Information:

Kernel Extensions:

com.kaspersky.kext.klif (3.0.2d39)

com.kaspersky.nke (1.6.2d112)

com.quark.driver.Tether64 (1.1.0d3 - SDK 10.6)

foo.tap (1.0)

com.kaspersky.kext.kimul.44 (44)

com.parallels.virtualsound (1.0 18)

Startup Items:

tap: Path: /Library/StartupItems/tap

tun: Path: /Library/StartupItems/tun

Launch Daemons:

[System] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.kaspersky.kav.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.parallels.mobile.dispatcher.launchdaemon.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.parallels.mobile.kextloader.launchdaemon.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.tether.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] pcloudd.plist 3rd-Party support link

Launch Agents:

[System] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.kaspersky.kav.gui.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.parallels.mobile.prl_deskctl_agent.launchagent.plist 3rd-Party support link

User Launch Agents:

[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist 3rd-Party support link

[not loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist 3rd-Party support link

[not loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

[not loaded] com.parallels.mobile.startgui.launchagent.plist 3rd-Party support link

User Login Items:

iTunesHelper

Home Storage Manager

Skype

Dropbox

LenovoEMC Storage Manager

Box Sync

RealPlayer Downloader Agent

Internet Plug-ins:

Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.4.0.11 3rd-Party support link

FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 12.0.0.77 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

Flash Player: Version: 12.0.0.77 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

AdobePDFViewer: Version: 9.5.2 3rd-Party support link

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.1 3rd-Party support link

RealPlayer Plugin: Version: (null) 3rd-Party support link

Silverlight: Version: 4.0.60531.0 3rd-Party support link

iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

Safari Extensions:

URL Advisor: Version: 13.0.0

Virtual Keyboard: Version: 13.0.0

Open in Internet Explorer: Version: 1.0

Audio Plug-ins:

BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

iTunes Plug-ins:

Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9

3rd Party Preference Panes:

Flash Player 3rd-Party support link

Flip4Mac WMV 3rd-Party support link

MacFUSE 3rd-Party support link

Old Applications:

/Library/Application Support/Microsoft/MERP2.0

Microsoft Error Reporting: Version: 2.2.9 - SDK 10.4 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Ship Asserts: Version: 1.1.4 - SDK 10.4 3rd-Party support link

Solver: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office/Add-Ins/Solver.app

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Office

Microsoft Graph: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Database Utility: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Office Reminders: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Upload Center: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

My Day: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

SyncServicesAgent: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Open XML for Excel: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Alerts Daemon: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Database Daemon: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Chart Converter: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Clip Gallery: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Epson Printer Utility 4: Version: 9.19 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

/Library/Printers/EPSON/InkjetPrinter2/Utility/UT4/Epson Printer Utility 4.app

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2011

Microsoft PowerPoint: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Excel: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Outlook: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Word: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Document Connection: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

Microsoft Language Register: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link

/Applications/Microsoft Office 2011/Additional Tools/Microsoft Language Register/Microsoft Language Register.app

Microsoft AutoUpdate: Version: 2.3.6 - SDK 10.4 3rd-Party support link

/Library/Application Support/Microsoft/MAU2.0/Microsoft AutoUpdate.app

Audiobook Builder: Version: 1.5.3 - SDK 10.4 3rd-Party support link

Tether: Version: 1.2 - SDK 10.4 3rd-Party support link

Time Machine:

Skip System Files: NO

Mobile backups: ON

Auto backup: YES

Volumes being backed up:

Darryl 11: Disk size: 464.96 GB Disk used: 332.23 GB

Destinations:

Backup Darryl [Network] (Last used)

Total size: 2

Total number of backups: 34

Oldest backup: 2013-10-30 15:24:33 +0000

Last backup: 2014-04-05 16:12:31 +0000

Size of backup disk: Excellent

Backup size 2 > (Disk size 464.96 GB X 3)

Time Machine details may not be accurate.

All volumes being backed up may not be listed.

Top Processes by CPU:

50% Safari

31% mds_stores

5% WindowServer

4% Activity Monitor

4% com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

Top Processes by Memory:

598 MB postbox-bin

360 MB Safari

254 MB iPhoto

221 MB SpamSieve

131 MB mds_stores

Virtual Memory Information:

55 MB Free RAM

2.98 GB Active RAM

2.92 GB Inactive RAM

1.17 GB Wired RAM

7.14 GB Page-ins

307 MB Page-outs

Thank you.

Your startup disk becoming getting full, these spinning disks perform slower the more data you have on them, so consider freeing up some space if you want the best speed from it. Gory details are explained at http://macperformanceguide.com/Storage-WhyYouNeedMoreThanYouNeed.html

The tun/tap startup items are using an old method to load into the system - these need to be removed (ideally with the developers uninstall tools or instructions). They may be part of Wireshark or another network based sniffer/ router/ forwarder.

There also appears to be a foo.tap kernel extension - that will need updating or removing.

Your RAM looks surprisingly OK, the Mac has been running for 9 days, but you only have 300MB of data that has been swapped to disk - this is odd considering the dialogs.

Safari looks busy, take a look at all the internet plugins remove or update them & also update any Safari extensions.

Other users have mentioned Kapersky's AV causing issues, please ensure this is also the latest version (and it is 10.9 supported). Personally I would remove it for a few days & see if the issue doesn't reappear. Once the system is stable you can reinstall it & if things go wrong you know what to look at removing. It does run 2 different background jobs & 3 kernel extensions within the core of the OS.

You can also try a new user account to rule out all of your user login items. Just make one in 'System preferences > Users & groups'. Logout and login as that new user, if the issue reappears you know your login items are OK, but still try to update any that may be old.

I think MacFuse has been replaced by OSXFuse - http://osxfuse.github.io

mds_stores is part of Spotlight's indexing process. Spotlight will ise various 'metadata importers' to read third party file formats, so if they are not up to date they can break the indexing process. Ensure apps like Adobe Reader are updated too, since they may have older importers installed.

Everything loading at the system level needs to be up to date or removed if you don't use it.

Hopefully some colors will make it clear what is loading where.

Red items are loaded at the system level (not necessarily bad, but they have the potential to modify the OS).

Blue items are loaded at the user level.

Pink items are to get attention :^)

darryl-1 wrote:

System Software:

OS X 10.9.2 (13C64) - Uptime: 9 days 6:2:10

Disk Information:

ST9500420ASG disk0 : (500.11 GB)

EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB

Darryl 11 (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 499.25 GB (142.52 GB free)

Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

Kernel Extensions:

com.kaspersky.kext.klif (3.0.2d39)

com.kaspersky.nke (1.6.2d112)

com.quark.driver.Tether64 (1.1.0d3 - SDK 10.6)

foo.tap (1.0)

com.kaspersky.kext.kimul.44 (44)

com.parallels.virtualsound (1.0 18)

Startup Items:

tap: Path: /Library/StartupItems/tap

tun: Path: /Library/StartupItems/tun

Launch Daemons:

[System] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.kaspersky.kav.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.parallels.mobile.dispatcher.launchdaemon.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.parallels.mobile.kextloader.launchdaemon.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.tether.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] pcloudd.plist 3rd-Party support link

Launch Agents:

[System] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.kaspersky.kav.gui.plist 3rd-Party support link

[System] com.parallels.mobile.prl_deskctl_agent.launchagent.plist 3rd-Party support link

User Launch Agents:

[not loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist 3rd-Party support link

[not loaded] com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist 3rd-Party support link

[not loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist 3rd-Party support link

[not loaded] com.parallels.mobile.startgui.launchagent.plist 3rd-Party support link

User Login Items:

iTunesHelper

Home Storage Manager

Skype

Dropbox

LenovoEMC Storage Manager

Box Sync

RealPlayer Downloader Agent

Internet Plug-ins:

Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.4.0.11 3rd-Party support link

FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 12.0.0.77 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

Flash Player: Version: 12.0.0.77 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

AdobePDFViewer: Version: 9.5.2 3rd-Party support link

QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.3.9 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link

Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.1 3rd-Party support link

RealPlayer Plugin: Version: (null) 3rd-Party support link

Silverlight: Version: 4.0.60531.0 3rd-Party support link

iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0

Safari Extensions:

URL Advisor: Version: 13.0.0

Virtual Keyboard: Version: 13.0.0

Open in Internet Explorer: Version: 1.0

3rd Party Preference Panes:

Flash Player 3rd-Party support link

Flip4Mac WMV 3rd-Party support link

MacFUSE 3rd-Party support link

Top Processes by CPU:

50% Safari

31% mds_stores

5% WindowServer

4% Activity Monitor

4% com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

Top Processes by Memory:

598 MB postbox-bin

360 MB Safari

254 MB iPhoto

221 MB SpamSieve

131 MB mds_stores

Virtual Memory Information:

55 MB Free RAM

2.98 GB Active RAM

2.92 GB Inactive RAM

1.17 GB Wired RAM

7.14 GB Page-ins

307 MB Page-outs

Cleanup:

All the usual caveats apply, backup before you modify the system, delete the items (or move them to another disk or folder if you are worried about deleting the wrong thing) but ensure the originals are gone or updated.

Use the Finders "Go menu > Go to Folder…" when you need to open the hidden ~/Library (your users library).

Reboot for the system changes to take effect.

Startup Items: Stored in /Library/StartupItems/

Startup Items have been discontinued by Apple since Mac OS 10.4. They are responsible for making changes at a system level. Remove them all or spend time ensuring ALL related software is up to date. You need a very good reason to have anything installed in there. The developers are ignoring Apple guidelines by installing these - not a good sign.

Kernel Extensions: Stored in /Library/Extensions/

Kernel Extensions also load third party code, but they insert it into the 'core' of the OS. These can be safe, however you must ensure the related tools or apps are up to date, otherwise the system is basically built upon quicksand. Remove them all & see if the OS works better.

Launchd jobs: several types

LaunchAgents - Stored in /Library/LaunchAgents

LaunchDaemons - Stored in /Library/LaunchDaemons

User LaunchAgents - Stored in ~/Library/LaunchAgents

These are all background jobs, they are not necessarily bad, but if they are loading old code it could be doing untold damage to the performance & stability of the entire OS. Focus on the System level jobs (the ones inside /Library - the system level) also remove ['failed'], non-system jobs.

EtreCheck gives a status on launchd jobs…

[loaded] - a running job

[not loaded] - jobs are not currently running, these may be harmless, but some will run 'on demand'. They may also run on a schedule.

[failed] - jobs in a crashed or unknown state, it could be forking processes or using all the system resources, remove these.

User login items:

Applications and helpers that are managed inside 'Systems Preferences > Users and groups > Login Items tab'.

These are loaded at the 'User level', consider removing all of them whilst you troubleshoot. When you decide to re-add them ensure the software is up to date.

3rd Party Preference Panes: & Internet Plug-ins:

/Library/PreferencePanes/ and ~/Library/PreferencePanes/

/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ and ~/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/

Once again these items all must be up to date, or remove them from your system. If the prefpanes manage additional software use the uninstaller or see the developers site for uninstall instructions. You can also right click to remove 3rd party preference panes in System preferences

Re-run EtreCheck after cleaning up to see if items have returned (some apps will reload the background jobs when re-opened, so either update or remove the software).

Hope that isn't too daunting, the OS should be better if there are less old items running at the system level.

Post back if you want anything clarifying.

Yes, you're right I'm the first who mentioned iMovie in this thread.

No, I don't think I'll get better attention by creating my own thread, because nobody, but only Apple can help me in this situation. It's a deep core technology.

Anyway Compressed Memory is very good technology. It really works! iMovie 10.0.2 in Mac OS 10.9 is compressing 1.5 times faster the same video files than iMovie 9.0.9 under Mac OS 10.8!

There is only one problem - incorrect work of Compressed Memory technology in Mavericks. It has to be polished as soon as posible! The whole Mavericks works like living entity now. Sometimes “Your System has Run out of Application memory”, under the same conditions, appears after compressed video file (the same 15m. Full HD -> HD) reaches 774MB, sometimes after it reaches 876MB, sometimes as soon as it reaches 987MB...and so on. Only once I've got the final 1.32GB movie file, but just only once! It looks like it's a matter of luck...😟

There is only one hope - update of Mavericks from Apple. Until that, I cannot use iMovie anymore.😢

Can't confirm.

KARX wrote:

Yes, you're right I'm the first who mentioned iMovie in this thread.

No, I don't think I'll get better attention by creating my own thread, because nobody, but only Apple can help me in this situation. It's a deep core technology.

If that is true you are in the wrong place. Apple only have a few 'community support staff' (they have Apple logos in thier posts with black headers), they never post to any thread that isn't simple or short. It's claimed Apple empolyees don't read these threads, even if they do there never seems to be any posts from Apple directly and there are rules about what employees can post here.

KARX wrote:

Anyway Compressed Memory is very good technology. It really works! iMovie 10.0.2 in Mac OS 10.9 is compressing 1.5 times faster the same video files than iMovie 9.0.9 under Mac OS 10.8!

I'm afraid you have misunderstood the RAM compression - it has nothing to do with video compression. The speedup you are seeing is because of other changes in the OS & iMovie. RAM compression uses a very different algorithm to video compression.

KARX wrote:

There is only one hope - update of Mavericks from Apple. Until that, I cannot use iMovie anymore.😢

Apple is the only hope?

You could take your Mac to an Apple Store or call Applecare.

The store may be able to isolate the issue, there is a chance that they will reinstall the OS. This is something you can do yourself.

You could boot into Safe mode to see what happens when the third party extensions are off.

https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455

You could try working inside a new user account to see if your login items or user background jobs are breaking the OS.

You can also run EtreCheck to see if you have any old items running inside the system.

Etresoft offer the same advice that I keep telling people on here…

http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck_story

It looks complex but the reality is that you pick the 'system altering items', remove or update them. If you have no third party apps then it must be Apple's fault but if you don't look at what is installed you are in no position to assign to blame anyone.

Csound1 wrote:

I read it as though you were using it as an example of problems, but I saw the post as the opposite, problems avoided with a little preparation. And a successful installation of OSX.

I'm not sure I consider Migration Assistant as part of any careful updgrade preparation. 🙂

It's a firehose that brings over too much if you just want some apps. Coming from a PPC Mac should at least allow the OS to filter out binaries that don't work, even if it does a bad job a lot of apps will just die & not ruin the OS like older Intel code is doing.

Yes I turned off Kasparski a few days ago to test.

After reading the link I on hard disk speed inner & outer I have a 1 terrabit to install on hand. I was going to last fall but I found over 100 gig of data that I got rid of. Mind you I had no problem and everything was fast, this is before Mavericks. Is there any trusted software that would remove, startup items and other items not used. This is all very interesting but its hard to get the time needed to work it out. But you have shed some light on things I was not aware of? Thanks Darryl

I have been having the same issue, all of a sudden after 2 years of no issues. Turns out my issue was the address book synch, I have 5 email accounts all synched to the contact book. It grabbed 26 gig of memmory and locked me up. I turned off all the synch except to my mac account and it did not freeze up overnight so it appears the problem is solved. Might not be everybodys problem but I did reinstall Maverick and that did not solve the problem.

I'm very happy to say that today's iMovie 10.0.3 update has actually solved all my problems!🙂

I don't have “Your System has Run out of Application memory” message anymore!

To be sure it is working, I made it twice transcoding FULL HD -> HD 15 m., and it worked without any problems! I'm impressed about the speed of transcoding! Again, I want to say that iMovie 10.0.3 in Mac OS 10.9 is compressing 1.5 times faster the same video files than iMovie 9.0.9 under Mac OS 10.8!

Now I can sign in to my YouTube account through iMovie for sharing!

The following message appears "Your password is correct, but we no longer support signing in with YouTube userename. Please enter your Google account email address (...) to sign in."

I've made the right choice to force myself to wait for an update, not to go to the shop to buy 16GB of very expensive memory, no reinstalls/removes/cleanings, no panic, no crying, do nothing, just waiting...

And here it is a "magical" update iMovie 10.0.3 that fixed it all! Thank you Apple! Thank You very much!😍

Karx-

You stated Mac OS 10.9. Do you have the latest update10.9.2? and what about Aperture? what version are you running in that? Were you running the latest updates before the new iMovie 10.0.3?

Just wondering if I should jump in and the all the updates again....

Thanks for you input and congrats! I'm actually jealous but very happy for you. 😉

Hi!

Yes, I have Mac OS 10.9.2. I'm not using Aperture. I was running Mac OS 10.9.2and iMovie 10.0.2 - all the latest updates before iMovie 10.0.3.

The latest update iMovie 10.0.3 really fixed all my problems, including “Your System has Run out of Application memory” message.

Everything is woking normal now!🙂 Thanks to Apple!

We have the same problem at work and at home, and with all the systems that are running Mavericks. All of our systems have 64Gb RAM and are running under either 10.9.0 or 10.9.2 and all are lately getting the message up stating that they have run out of application memory, we have just seen this today on two new Mac Pro's which we had delivered last week. we thought at first that we had picked up something dodgy on the web, but it has been occurring also on systems not attached to the Internet or internal network at all. We see a working system starting with 58Gb of free RAM go to completely non-responsive and saying less than 200Mb of available RAM in under 2 minutes..

The only solution that we have found is to ditch Mavericks for 10.8.0 and since doing so we have not seen this re-occur, I think there is something wrong with Mavericks, You would normally expect Microsoft to have all the bugs, but it looks like OSX since the loss of Steve Jobs is starting to loose its quality control standards, I hope that this is just a bug, but for now we are having to slowly go through all our systems at work and downgrade them.

James

If any of my Macs start to behave like your Macs I'll be able to test what is happening. But they don't.

Some people do not have this problem, some have it occasionally (me), and some have it so often the computer is almost unusable. People attribute it to various programs. My theory is that it is part of Mavericks' new memory-management method.

I have noticed that occasionally Apple precipitously cuts off the legs from under professional users. The worst one for me was Pages, After seeing an installation disk for Microsoft Office at the Genius bar, marked for office use, I've determined that Apple does not use its own software.

Apple doesn't use Macs exclusively in their data centers. Quite a lot of their servers are running Windows. If they don't use Macs in their offices, they might not notice the problem.