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Q: Your System has Run out of Application memory

I upgraded to Mavericks from Mountain Lion, and I have been getting the error message "Your System has Run out of Application memory", and I am forced to restart the computer to be able to keep working.

 

I have been monitoring the Activity Monitor and I have not found a process that is increasing the amount of memory used. I have seen a proliferation of processes.

 

I have an iMac 27-inch, Late 2012 with a 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7 and 24 GB 1600 MHz DDR3.


iMac, OS X Mavericks (10.9), 27-inch Late 2012; 3.4 GHz i7; 24GB

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 7:33 PM

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  • by Darius Doobarbus,

    Darius Doobarbus Darius Doobarbus Nov 26, 2013 11:32 AM in response to Rlynn68
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    Nov 26, 2013 11:32 AM in response to Rlynn68

    Good advice, as it lead me to believe that it may be the MS Exchange account from work I connected to. I disconnected, plus doing the above procedure and it's back to normal. Thanks!

  • by Da O,

    Da O Da O Nov 28, 2013 5:33 AM in response to REPG
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:33 AM in response to REPG

    Good Day Everyone, and thank you all for taking the time and energy to consider this most nefarious situation.  I'm not a frequent poster as I find that many out there are far more skillful than I at solving gthe problems and I am incredibly grateful that we, the Mac Community, are so involved and willing to help each other.  Thus please allow me to add my two bits:

     

    I am running a Macbook  Air 13" Late 2010 Model with 2.13 Ghz Core 2 Duo cpu and 4 gb of RAM.  Reasonably saavy with all the assistance from everyone online.  Suddenly this past Tuesday, Nov 26 I began receiving "Out of memory" warnings along with the dreaded spinning beach ball.  No new software was installed recently and I have NOT YET upgraded to Mavericks due to all the issues we all have been reading about, especially the email stuff. That said, I have many friends who have and have not had any issues at all. 

     

    So Running ML 10.8.5, no new software installs, and suddenly awaken from sleep Tuesday Morning to a "Out of Memory" warning.  Repaired Permissions in Disk Utility, Reparied Disk in Disk Utility, Rebuilt directory using Disk Warrior from a bootable external drive, plus a plethora of other software I like to use when issues arrise. Reset PRAM, booted into Safe Mode, same problem and then discovered that whenever I restarted magically 15.75 Gb appeared.  Then within 1 hour and sometimes less it dropped to 350mb and the warning. 

     

    Restarted several times to verify that and since then have been searching for a solution.  Just finished reading this thread and even though it is primarily related to Mavericks, based on what I have found I would bet it is an Apple ugrade of some sort because it is happening in ML as well.

     

    One thing that did help was to quite _ip in Activity Monitor, which controlled printing, and suddenly I'm back up to 11 Gb.  However I have made no changes to any print drivers or software in months.  The only think was the latest OS update released last week which automatically installed.  So go figure.

     

    Thanks in advance for any ideas or suggestiong beyond what we have in the thread so far.

     

    Best DaO

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 5:49 AM in response to Da O
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:49 AM in response to Da O

    OSX creates temp, swap and sleep image files as it runs, sounds like you have insufficient space to accommodate them

     

    Don't upgrade until the situation is rectified.

  • by Da O,

    Da O Da O Nov 28, 2013 5:57 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:57 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound 1, Thanks for the info, what and why do you think this might suddenly begin all of a sudden now?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 6:07 AM in response to Da O
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    Nov 28, 2013 6:07 AM in response to Da O

    Hard drives fill up, before they do that they are not full up, there is always going to be the day before they filled ip.

     

    Get a larger drive, or (least preferable) remove data from the existing one.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 28, 2013 6:20 AM in response to Da O
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    Nov 28, 2013 6:20 AM in response to Da O

    Da O,

    This thread is about issues with 10.9, not 10.8. I'd suggest you create your own thread, that way any guidance can be focused on the correct OS. Ths one getting very long, so there is little point in dragging it on with issue for another OS. 10.8 handles RAM differently to 10.9.

     

    I'd suggest you look at how much free space you disk has after a reboot & post that info to a new thread, link it from here if you want. Ideally you will want to have many GB free. Around 15-20% free used to be recommended

  • by Kenneth Collins1,

    Kenneth Collins1 Kenneth Collins1 Nov 28, 2013 6:40 AM in response to Da O
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    Nov 28, 2013 6:40 AM in response to Da O

    Da O wrote:

     

    plus a plethora of other software I like to use when issues arrise.

    Good rule of thumb: if you have to call in the plethoras, you're probably overfixing the problem.

     

    I remember the good old days when there were no plethoras roaming the earth, eating multiple disparate flavors of ice cream, and dinosaurs weren't just found in zoos. The passive voice wasn't used as often, the existence of the nominalization of expressions wasn't common, and people said "now" instead of "at this point in time." (Time is pointy now.)

     

    I have to lock the door. The plethoras get in and leave my English a mess.

     

    Meanwhile, problems vary from installation to installation, and some are unique to one person.

     

    I had a G5 iMac with Panther. Every single time I opened a window, there was a kernel panic, probably because we didn't have plethoras back then. The geniuses watched with eyes wide with wonder as the impossible transpired before their very eyes. I was the only person in the world with that problem. No one ever figured it out, and no one ever fixed it, because it didn't exist after Tiger came out. Believe it or not, Mr. Ripley has a call on line 2.

     

    I am running Mavericks. I have had the infamous "no more application memory" error a half dozen times. Up till now I haven't posted anything about it. Force quitting the nonresponsive application and then restarting it is all the fix that I need.

     

    Your problem is serious, I understand because of my panicky computer, but this too shall pass. Like a kidney stone perhaps, but it will pass.

  • by Da O,

    Da O Da O Nov 28, 2013 7:07 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 7:07 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound 1,

     

    Thanks for the input, am definitely on the way to increasing the drive size.

  • by Da O,

    Da O Da O Nov 28, 2013 7:08 AM in response to Drew Reece
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    Nov 28, 2013 7:08 AM in response to Drew Reece

    Drew Reece,

     

    Thanks for the input, only realised this was a Mavericks thread as I read on towards the end as it came up in a search.  I will repost this to a new thread and see what suggestions are made.

     

    Thanks.

  • by Da O,

    Da O Da O Nov 28, 2013 7:11 AM in response to Kenneth Collins1
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    Nov 28, 2013 7:11 AM in response to Kenneth Collins1

    Kenneth Collins1,

     

    Couldn't agree more, the plethora has become the stuff of overflow and congestion.  But as this is not the place for that discussion, thanks and alas, I tried force-quitting applications as a solution but to no avail.  I will move this to a new thread for ML laggards like myself. Thanks and don't get stuck in Plethora quicksand;-)

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 7:14 AM in response to Da O
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    Nov 28, 2013 7:14 AM in response to Da O

    Buy a bigger one, not expensive and easy to install, put the existing drive in an external case and use it as extra storage.

  • by Da O,

    Da O Da O Nov 28, 2013 7:15 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 7:15 AM in response to Csound1

    Excellent Suggestion.  Will look into it, Thanks again.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 7:17 AM in response to Da O
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    Nov 28, 2013 7:17 AM in response to Da O

    You're welcome

  • by carrierjason,

    carrierjason carrierjason Dec 1, 2013 4:05 AM in response to REPG
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    Dec 1, 2013 4:05 AM in response to REPG

    Same problem, Since i upgraded, I been moving files off and plan to roll back to Mountian lion.  My MAC is almost unusable.  I been using an app to clean memory, but if a walk away for more than 20 minutes machine is locked.

     

    I am not happy with Mavrick, at all becuase of this.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Dec 1, 2013 5:03 AM in response to carrierjason
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    Dec 1, 2013 5:03 AM in response to carrierjason

    carrierjason wrote:

     

    Same problem, Since i upgraded, I been moving files off and plan to roll back to Mountian lion.  My MAC is almost unusable.  I been using an app to clean memory, but if a walk away for more than 20 minutes machine is locked.

     

    I am not happy with Mavrick, at all becuase of this.

    So we can assume 'clean memory' does nothing to help you?

    That does tie in with the way 10.9s new RAM compression & extra file caching works. You are probably removing the benefits of 10.9 new feature by simply making it work like 10.8.

     

    'Cleaning' RAM is a misnomer, unless you actually are running very leaky applications. All you do is cause the data to be re-read from disk or recalculated when needed. Disk is slower thean RAM.

     

    See this explanation…

    http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/17/#compressed-memory

     

    I suspect you are seeing other issues and blaming RAM, so create a new thread, explain your symptoms & post some actual data (full window Activity Monitor screen grabs, EtreCheck reports). Otherwise we can't help you do anything.

     

    There are also several user tips for migrating to older OS's if you have actually given up with 10.9.

    https://discussions.apple.com/community/mac_os/os_x_mavericks?view=documents

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