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Q: Pages 5.0 and Endnote (Cite While You Write)

Hello fellow Endnote/Pages 5.0 Users!

 

I've just upgraded to Pages 5.0 yesterday to find that Endnote X7 is not really functioning properly with Pages.

 

I think its Pages 5.0 problem as concurrently I am running both Pages 4.3 and Pages 5.0 with same Endnote Library.  Impirting citations (to footnotes and appropriately to Bibliography) on 4.3 works perfectly, as it should. 

 

However, on Pages 5.0, I can import citation only in-text and not in the footnotes section (chicago style with superscripts).  Further, it does not add to the Bibliography section at the last page of the document; as it did for 4.3 and Endnote.

 

Any takes?

 

This is very frustrating.

Posted on Oct 23, 2013 8:21 PM

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  • by Hollister,

    Hollister Hollister Oct 30, 2013 2:33 AM in response to Andre Dan
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    Oct 30, 2013 2:33 AM in response to Andre Dan

    No, unfortunately not. Once you have opened a document with Pages 5, it can no longer be opened by Pages 4.

  • by piamontealegre,

    piamontealegre piamontealegre Oct 30, 2013 5:56 AM in response to parkmice
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    Oct 30, 2013 5:56 AM in response to parkmice

    I think I have a new issue: after installing the plug-in I can cite, but I cannot manage the output style to use one I've created. It looks like the plug-in offers only a limited and predefined set of bibliography styles, no matter what you mark in the EndNote Style Manager. it's just me?

  • by taoli711,

    taoli711 taoli711 Oct 30, 2013 6:24 AM in response to piamontealegre
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    Oct 30, 2013 6:24 AM in response to piamontealegre

    seem problem that bothers me. would appreciate if someone can figure out how to solve it.

  • by Ucsdshao,

    Ucsdshao Ucsdshao Oct 30, 2013 6:33 AM in response to piamontealegre
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    Oct 30, 2013 6:33 AM in response to piamontealegre

    It is a problem of Page 5, not just you. Until Aplle fix the plug-in, there is only one way to solve this problem going back and use Page 4.3.

  • by haggibbor,

    haggibbor haggibbor Nov 6, 2013 5:20 PM in response to AudMan
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    Nov 6, 2013 5:20 PM in response to AudMan

    Apple does not appear to be acknowledging this problem. They posted a support sheet describing fixes and improvements they will make to Pages 5, but they imply under "EndNote Compatibility" that the link to plugin 2 fixes the problem. It does not. EndNote does not work correctly with plugin 2.0, as various users have observed.

     

    I hope Apple isn't going to ignore this.

  • by RNAguy,

    RNAguy RNAguy Nov 7, 2013 4:10 PM in response to haggibbor
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    Nov 7, 2013 4:10 PM in response to haggibbor

    @haggibor: I feared that might be so. I am in academia, I write grants and manuscripts, and EndNote is required for database management in my professional writing. For "Power Users" the previous version of Pages didn't really play very well with EndNote, and although I developed a few workarounds, the problems were never really fixed. This was evidently Apple's issue and not Thompson-Reuters, and I say this as a huge and loyal Apple fan. I had hoped (still hope!) the new version would buff out the flaws.

     

    For what it's worth, in working with (old) pages and Endnote X5 I found that references were inserted in text but were sometimes invisible. My end-run: If I switched back and forth between two journal styles (using "Manage Endnote Citations" in the "Edit" menu) it would correct the problem. Maybe someone who is having problems with the newer versions during "cite while you write" will have some success with this.

     

    I hope there are at least some end-runs for those people who have already committed. If anyone knows them, or tries mine, please post. I would like some sense that these kinds of problems were addressed in the new Pages/EndNote combo before I'd upgrade.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Nov 7, 2013 6:39 PM in response to haggibbor
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    Nov 7, 2013 6:39 PM in response to haggibbor

    Many features have been removed from Pages 5 see:

     

    iWorkTipsnTricks Forum

     

    Menawhile it probably is best to continue using Pages '09 if that is possible and if you are unhappy with Pages 5 give it a review and rating in the App Store.

     

    Peter

  • by A.Ragab,

    A.Ragab A.Ragab Nov 11, 2013 6:29 AM in response to Hollister
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    Nov 11, 2013 6:29 AM in response to Hollister

    I had the same problem (no way of citing in footnotes, though citing in-text works with Plug-in v2). To go back to Pages 09 from a document opened in Pages5.0: Go to file>export>pages 09. It will save the file in Pages 09. I did this and it worked for me (on a book manuscript; 400+pages). I'm back to Pages 09 until this is fixed.

  • by BennyC92,

    BennyC92 BennyC92 Nov 11, 2013 9:53 AM in response to piamontealegre
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    Nov 11, 2013 9:53 AM in response to piamontealegre

    Hi piamontealegre,

     

    I've noticed this problem too. One workaround is to edit the style of one of the selectable ones that you don't use to match the style you want. It isn't pretty but works enough.

     

    I only recently purchased endnote to start writing up my final year uni reports, only to have most of the functionality taken away before I get to properly use it.

  • by piamontealegre,

    piamontealegre piamontealegre Nov 11, 2013 10:51 AM in response to BennyC92
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    Nov 11, 2013 10:51 AM in response to BennyC92

    Thanks BennyC92. You're right, I think that'll do the trick!

    Unfortunately the problem is not solved. I have many bibliography styles to match different requirements (Thesis, journal A or B, etc.). So, we still need something more accurate than the actual Apple plug-in. I have also noticed the losses in Pages 5.0 that PeterBreis0807 mencioned, and they are disastrous. I think that our best choice is to get back to Pages 09, and I'm afraid that, if Pages 5.0 is so dysfunctional, they wont "fix it". We will have to wait for a new release.

  • by Jonatanhk,

    Jonatanhk Jonatanhk Nov 16, 2013 7:39 AM in response to BennyC92
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    Nov 16, 2013 7:39 AM in response to BennyC92

    Using pages 5.0 and EndNote x7. The EndNote Bibliography is greyed out. This is a big disappointment. Apple can you please fix this.

  • by Khilari,

    Khilari Khilari Nov 23, 2013 11:24 AM in response to AudMan
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    Nov 23, 2013 11:24 AM in response to AudMan

    I have been really keen to switch to Pages from Word. Quicker, more intuitive. But these problems seem to push me back to Pages 4.3 or Word.

    I am running Pages 5 and Endnote X6. Have installed the Apple recommended plugins.

    I can insert citations, but they seem to number randomly, appear in the Bibliography as a 1 then a 0... and cannot be formatted easily.

     

    Have reported as a bug.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Nov 23, 2013 4:06 PM in response to Hollister
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    Nov 23, 2013 4:06 PM in response to Hollister

    Hollister wrote:

     

    …Apple will get back to me on this...

     

    I very much doubt that.

     

    Peter

  • by haggibbor,

    haggibbor haggibbor Nov 23, 2013 6:50 PM in response to PeterBreis0807
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    Nov 23, 2013 6:50 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

    It is really irritating that Apple is refusing to acknowledge this. They continue to post "EndNote plugin 2.0" as if it actually worked. It is like releasing to the public an application at the alpha stage of testing.

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Nov 23, 2013 8:52 PM in response to haggibbor
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    Nov 23, 2013 8:52 PM in response to haggibbor

    haggibbor wrote:

     

    …It is like releasing to the public an application at the alpha stage of testing.

     

    Not like. Exactly.

     

    Peter

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