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Does the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013) supports 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport?

I understand that the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013 with Nvidia) supports 4K screen resolutions via HDMI at low hertz. But does it support 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport? I read on Intel's web that the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M with 2GB memory in theory can support it. Would be important as a range of new 4K 32" monitors will come out over the next year. Would be great for photo, video editing etc.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 24, 2013 2:48 AM

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Posted on Oct 26, 2013 10:30 AM

I also am very confused by this because per apple's support page it only supports 4K via HDMI at 30Hz but SHOULD support 60Hz via a mini display port 1.2 specification built into thunderbolt 2.


However, I think it does include 60Hz support (although not mentioned on apple's website). My evidence of this is that on the ifixit teardown they found a an Intel DSL 5520 Thunderbolt 2 controller which according to Intel's and Wikipedia's website is falcon ridge which means it should support Display port 1.2 natively. Plus, on apple's thunderbolt page they specifically mention connecting a 4K display to a macbook pro through the thunderbolt port (not which is suggested by the support page listed above):


"Now with Thunderbolt 2 built into the new Mac Pro and MacBook Pro with Retina display, you can connect the latest 4K desktop displays and get double the bandwidth for your peripherals. And the two generations of Thunderbolt technology are compatible with each other."



Also, the Apple mini displayport support page has not been updated since 2012 but I believe it is just showing old information


The BIG piece of evidence against the new macbook pro's supporting 4K through the thunderbolt port is that on apple's tech specs page they specifically mention 4K under the HDMI section but make no mention of it under the thunderbolt 2 section.

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Feb 20, 2014 5:46 PM in response to DannyWoods

I could never live without either OS to be honest as they both have their pros and cons. The pros of Apple is usually better for the average user and design and the pros of Windows is more in depth customizability and business. I usually switch back and forth between both Windows and Mac on a daily basis. They are both good operating systems but I would never choose one over the other.

Feb 25, 2014 12:24 PM in response to aron77

aron77 wrote:


still 30Hz and no HiDPI option for me (dell up2414q + late 2013 macbook pro retina 15'' with 750m gfx).

Super sad indeed. There must be a way of forcing the retina display setting. Its probably some parameter in the EDID. Cant somebody do a script similar to the one posted here: http://embdev.net/topic/284710


it must say Retina: -> Yes

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Feb 26, 2014 9:28 AM in response to ivancucer

FWIW, this could be more than merely a marketing move on Apple's part. If you go back in time a few years, when NVIDIA first launched their 600 series, the hardware supported 4K@60Hz, but the drivers didn't. It took NVIDIA a *long* time to finally get the hack working that combined two virtual monitors into one screen. It seemed to take a lot of work, and other vendors had difficulties as well.


Everyone in the industry might just be waiting to do 4K@60Hz directly, without the two monitor MST hack. Note that this hack would only benefit the highest end late 2013 Macbook Pros - the ones with the the 750 - and I can't imagine there's a lot of volume on sales of that model. It may well be that NVIDIA simply declined to spend the effort needed to make a short-term Maverick MST hack solution for 4K@60Hz for such a small volume - and this might even be the reason Apple went with AMD/ATI GPUs on the Mac Pro - because they were willing to do the Hack.


Personally, I don't understand what makes using HBR mode in a straightforward manner as it stands so diffficult - the bandwidth should be there - but the industry's use of the hack means there must be some issue with it.

Does the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013) supports 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport?

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