Does the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013) supports 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport?

I'm not speaking from first hand experience, but this adapter has been a favorite for people with older Macs using the 39" Seiki 4K monitor at 30 Hz:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ESFEUSG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&coli d=1LG2YW23E5ENZ&coliid=I2FAZVBISZP5E5

NiqueXyZ: "So in order to get this you have to run windows 8 on your mac"

How about Windows 7? Will it output 4K @ 60Hz? If so, which editions (Home, Ultimate, etc.) of Windows 7 -and also Windows 8- are capable of doing this?

Thank you, kogir. I had purchased the 1st gen rMBP, my only Mac purchase, which I had returned as I decided to wait for Haswell or Broadwell update. Before returning I had installed Windows 7 and as far as I remember, upon the installation, Windows 7 finds and installs the drivers for each hardware. Which driver are you referring to? Is it the one that Windows finds, or should I look for the updated driver of that or another driver?

Hi Kogir,

Now that the Mac Pro is launching, have you by any chance been able to test whether the recent Mavericks update 10.9.1 has enabled you to drive the 4K Asus via the Thunderbolt 2 port @ 4K 60hz from the Retina MacBook Pro?

Thanks.

Hi NiqueXyZ, can you shed some light as to whether the Dell UP3214Q can be used as two separate displays side by side (either through the PBP feature of monitor or DP MST) at 1920x2160 resolution each using two DisplayPort connections or one DP and one HDMI connection from the rMBP 13 or 15 inch late/early 2013?

I'd assume that DP 1.2 is required for the host side of the converter - but there's a 10.9.2 beta that just came out, so the converter may not be necessary.

Sadly, I'm off for the next week...so I can't go into work and test if they put a new driver in there to make MST display port actually work on OS X...but I'm sure someone else who's watching this thread can 🙂

Does anyone know if the "new mac pro" has HDMI 2.0?

EDIT:

Nope, it doesn't.

http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/mac-pro

"One HDMI 1.4 port"

Lame.

i think this post is quite interesting.

And just out of curiosity: How does the current Thunderbolt Display get its video signal? That other thread is also discussing a new generation of displays, which uses Thunderbolt directly as an Interface, instead of Displayport 1.2 HBR via Thunderbolt?

But i thought that Thunderbolt is nothing but a combination of Displayport, Power and PCIe? And the PCIe won't help much without an external video adapter, which will not be integrated in any display, right? Also, Thunderbolt2 claims a data rate of up to 20 GB/s, while Displayport 1.2 HBR is 17.28 GB/s, so there shouldnt be much capacity left?

Anyway I still expect apple to have a plan for the thunderbolt 2 interface on the current MBPr's. They have to come up with an own 4k display eventually, and it would be quite stupid to exclude all those recent MBP buyers due to incompatibility. Maybe we are actually meant to wait with any 4k purchase until that apple display comes out?

Just to correct or clarify terminology: as far as I know (please correct me if I am wrong), DP 1.0 or 1.1 uses HBR, and DP1.2 uses HBR2. As a matter of fact, since TB2 incorporates DP2, both TB2's and DP2's claimed data rate should theoritically be the same.

Daisy chaining cinema displays almost certainly uses MST, so I wonder if there's a way to patch the driver to enable it for all monitors, not just Cinema Displays. Won't really help with 4k though, as OS X lacks any native ability to combine displays.

With any luck, the embarrassment of Windows being better for pro use on the MacBook Pro will get them to address this eventually. If it's not in the next OS X update following the new Mac Pro, then I'll start to lose hope.

After reading all of the stuff posted (the sharp statement, the EVGA forum, etc), I don't think this is Apple. I think this is Intel and Nvidia not updating their drivers for OS X -- in fact in the case of the GTX 680, I know for sure it's because NVidia doesn't want to enable MST on OS X. But who knows really...just the engineers at Apple I guess.

My understanding is that Apple has a unique kind of license with NVIDIA - they actually license the bare source code from NVIDIA and do all the customization to it themselves. I don't know how involved NIVIDA needs to be, but I'd hope part of the deal of using NVIDIA GPUs on Apple Products would include good software support.

They don't want it because it's time and money for them to write a new driver, and Windows software engineers are a lot easier to find and even keep around than OS X software engineers, especially when it comes to writing drivers.

This is the reason why Nvidia and AMD charge thousands of dollars more for the Quadro / FirePro cards...it's the same platform as the consumer class card, but you get dedicated engineers and driver support from Nvidia + AMD. The Quadro K5000 apparently can do MST displayport on Mavericks on the old mac pro with the latest Nvidia driver, and it can drive a 4K display via displayport @ 60Hz...but it's a $1700 card.

But with Intel, it's a different story since the GPU is integrated into the CPU.

With Iris and Iris Pro graphics, I don't see a valid reason why MST is disabled on OS X.

does anyone already know if the DELL P2815Q will work with MST or HBR2? Or Thunderbolt2 directly?

This is the display I am waiting for. Should arrive during the next few months.

Edit: Just found some info on the smaller 24" model which is already available. Clearly its still the MST "Hack" and not HBR2:

I hear your frustration.

After a lot of thought, I've decided to get the current Thunderbolt Display.

If Apple comes out with anything new this year, it won't be difficult to sell it.

I saw someone sell their used 1 yr old TB Display for $900 (AUS) on eBay (with no original box etc), I think that's unbelieveable.

You just can't beat the quality of an Apple monitor vs a plastic monitor with zero resale value.

Actually I've changed my mind, I'm going to keep on waiting.

I just can't justify paying $1000 ($1200 AUS) for a monitor that is so old (2011).

I'm going to wait for some of these improvements.

- USB ports, iMac has 3.0.

- Magsafe adapter.

- Form factor, new iMac is thinner.

- Reflective screen, new iMac is less reflective.

- Thunderbolt 2 (backwards compatible) ports