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Q: Does the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013) supports 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport?

I understand that the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013 with Nvidia) supports 4K screen resolutions via HDMI at low hertz. But does it support 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport? I read on Intel's web that the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M with 2GB memory in theory can support it. Would be important as a range of new 4K 32" monitors will come out over the next year. Would be great for photo, video editing etc.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 24, 2013 2:48 AM

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Q: Does the new Macbook Pro 15" (late 2013) supports 4K via Thunderbolt/Displayport?

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  • by johnniecache,

    johnniecache johnniecache Feb 12, 2014 5:39 AM in response to MacPlus87
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    Feb 12, 2014 5:39 AM in response to MacPlus87

    Having a retina mbp, i personally don't want any display below 200ppi any more. I believe apple has solved this very well with the retina gui, only that it brings us back to the real estate problem on small displays.

     

    Actually i think that the solution would be 300ppi for the small 13" and 15" displays and 220ppi would be perfect for 27", 30" and 32". This is the way to go. I also understand that apple cant put this on the market before prices have settled for such panels. (around 1k EUR i guess)

     

    Big question remains if ever there will be support for the 2013 MBPr's

  • by jksdfjk,

    jksdfjk jksdfjk Feb 13, 2014 1:45 AM in response to MacPlus87
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    Feb 13, 2014 1:45 AM in response to MacPlus87

    any infos on the latest beta (13C59) released yesterday?

  • by Niklas1337,

    Niklas1337 Niklas1337 Feb 13, 2014 12:20 PM in response to jksdfjk
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    Feb 13, 2014 12:20 PM in response to jksdfjk

    This is a good question. Apple wrote in release notes to look for graphic drivers....

     

    Some further information?

  • by ivancucer,

    ivancucer ivancucer Feb 13, 2014 12:25 PM in response to MacPlus87
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    Feb 13, 2014 12:25 PM in response to MacPlus87

    4k guys, please try the new beta let us know if we should prepare our money

  • by kogir,

    kogir kogir Feb 13, 2014 1:34 PM in response to ivancucer
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    Feb 13, 2014 1:34 PM in response to ivancucer

    ivancucer wrote:

     

    4k guys, please try the new beta let us know if we should prepare our money

     

    Hold onto your money.

     

    In other news, Windows 8 is starting to grow on me...

  • by Niklas1337,

    Niklas1337 Niklas1337 Feb 15, 2014 2:44 PM in response to MacPlus87
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    Feb 15, 2014 2:44 PM in response to MacPlus87

    Has anyone tried the new 10.9.2 beta Build: 13C44? Any news about 60 Hz and 3860x2160 via Display/Thunderbolt port?

  • by DannyWoods,

    DannyWoods DannyWoods Feb 20, 2014 9:18 AM in response to Niklas1337
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    Feb 20, 2014 9:18 AM in response to Niklas1337

    This is a good question.... These folks would know the best: forum.netkas.org

     

    Try posting there.

  • by DannyWoods,

    DannyWoods DannyWoods Feb 20, 2014 9:23 AM in response to kogir
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    Feb 20, 2014 9:23 AM in response to kogir

    I like Windows 8.1.  People,talk a lot of trash on it, but I def don't mind it... I placed an order for the new Mac Pro but it hasn't shipped yet.  I'm thinking of canceling amd building a machine.  Bigger, more noise but fully update-able and expandable for half the cost. Ha**intosh all day...

  • by bjordanbc,

    bjordanbc bjordanbc Feb 20, 2014 5:46 PM in response to DannyWoods
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    Feb 20, 2014 5:46 PM in response to DannyWoods

    I could never live without either OS to be honest as they both have their pros and cons. The pros of Apple is usually better for the average user and design and the pros of Windows is more in depth customizability and business. I usually switch back and forth between both Windows and Mac on a daily basis. They are both good operating systems but I would never choose one over the other.

  • by ivancucer,

    ivancucer ivancucer Feb 25, 2014 11:00 AM in response to MacPlus87
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    Feb 25, 2014 11:00 AM in response to MacPlus87

    4k guys, 10.9.2 was released today and again same question: 60 or still 30 ?

  • by aron77,

    aron77 aron77 Feb 25, 2014 11:18 AM in response to ivancucer
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    Feb 25, 2014 11:18 AM in response to ivancucer

    still 30Hz and no HiDPI option for me (dell up2414q + late 2013 macbook pro retina 15'' with 750m gfx).

  • by Niklas1337,

    Niklas1337 Niklas1337 Feb 25, 2014 12:07 PM in response to MacPlus87
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    Feb 25, 2014 12:07 PM in response to MacPlus87

    Hey,

     

    thats unbelievable and really sad!

  • by johnniecache,

    johnniecache johnniecache Feb 25, 2014 12:24 PM in response to aron77
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    Feb 25, 2014 12:24 PM in response to aron77

    aron77 wrote:

     

    still 30Hz and no HiDPI option for me (dell up2414q + late 2013 macbook pro retina 15'' with 750m gfx).

    Super sad indeed. There must be a way of forcing the retina display setting. Its probably some parameter in the EDID. Cant somebody do a script similar to the one posted here: http://embdev.net/topic/284710

     

    it must say Retina: -> Yes

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  • by ivancucer,

    ivancucer ivancucer Feb 25, 2014 1:03 PM in response to aron77
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    Feb 25, 2014 1:03 PM in response to aron77

    aron77 wrote:

     

    still 30Hz and no HiDPI option for me (dell up2414q + late 2013 macbook pro retina 15'' with 750m gfx).

    Thank you! Ah, really sad

  • by jdiamond,

    jdiamond jdiamond Feb 26, 2014 9:28 AM in response to ivancucer
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    Feb 26, 2014 9:28 AM in response to ivancucer

    FWIW, this could be more than merely a marketing move on Apple's part.  If you go back in time a few years, when NVIDIA first launched their 600 series, the hardware supported 4K@60Hz, but the drivers didn't.  It took NVIDIA a *long* time to finally get the hack working that combined two virtual monitors into one screen.  It seemed to take a lot of work, and other vendors had difficulties as well.

     

    Everyone in the industry might just be waiting to do 4K@60Hz directly, without the two monitor MST hack. Note that this hack would only benefit the highest end late 2013 Macbook Pros - the ones with the the 750 - and I can't imagine there's a lot of volume on sales of that model. It may well be that NVIDIA simply declined to spend the effort needed to make a short-term Maverick MST hack solution for 4K@60Hz for such a small volume - and this might even be the reason Apple went with AMD/ATI GPUs on the Mac Pro - because they were willing to do the Hack. 

     

    Personally, I don't understand what makes using HBR mode in a straightforward manner as it stands so diffficult - the bandwidth should be there - but the industry's use of the hack means there must be some issue with it.

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