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Phantom messages in Mail

I have two similar problems in Mail within Mavericks - essential a message count (of unread messages) is showing in the side bar when there aren't any in practice. This is currently happening for the following:


1. the 'Flagged' folder under 'Mailboxes' in the side bar. This shows 22 flagged messages - one red and 21 green. The green count is sort of correct (it shows that they are unread when in reality they have all been read and show as read when I click on the folder). However, when I click on the red flag folder, it says 1 unread when in reality there are no messages in that folder (either read or unread).


I've searched in Mail - status: Message is Flagged and it only brings up the green flags.


Any idea how I might get rid of this rouge label of 1 unread message? If I can also get rid of the 21 'unread' green flags that'd be a bonus too.


2. I have a smart mailbox which has the criterion to show unread emails (as emails generally go directly into their respective folders so this way I can see unread emails all in one place). Currently, this shows 4 in the sidebar. However, I have no unread emails (either in this smart mailbox or in any other mailbox in Mail).


I've tried rebuilding various mailboxes, I've restarted Mail and the computer. I've removed messages from the server.


Any thoughts?


Edward

Posted on Oct 24, 2013 10:40 AM

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Nov 8, 2013 9:43 AM in response to Edward

Well, not so fast. They appeared to be gone, but then one phantom started showing up in the counter of the Unread Mail Smart Mailbox. So I tried the whole process again. Again, 43,000+ emails reindexed. And still have one showing as unread in the counter, with nothing in the Smart Mailbox. One thing I did note this time. As I watched the window during the reindexing process, it counted up to the total number of messages, but stopped one short of total count shown. Would seem there is still a gremlin in there that this process, or the Apple Update, doesn't handle. Man this is frustrating!


I also went into Time Machine and it shows correctly, with no counter for the phantom message. Not sure what that means.

Nov 17, 2013 9:08 AM in response to Edward

I too was having the phantom flag issues even with the updates, still there. I followed your instructions and deleted all the files... And my flag count went even higher and was still incorrect.


Just deleted all the files a second time ...... And now mail keeps hanging up & won't run the reindexing process, just get the beach ball of death 😟

Dec 13, 2013 3:40 PM in response to Epic Peaks Coaching

I just tried William Kucharski's solution as well and now have the spinning ball of death as well. Have forced quit and restarted my computer a few times and am now on the phone with applecare. I wish I had read this page instead of just the page with Kuckarski's suggestion. I think I have to reinstall the OS ... on hold now for a senior advisor. So, although I do not know the fix yet I would advise not to follow the steps that Kucharski advised as a solution ... or prepare for your mail program to freeze when starting up.

Dec 14, 2013 10:58 AM in response to sleepingworker

Update: I have been on the phone with applecare, sent "upstairs" to two top tech people, and have sent a mail systems report given to a programmer specifically for the mail program. They will analyze the data and get back to me earliest on Monday (today is Saturday).


So ... I would strongly advise that you do not delete those files that Mr. Kucharski suggested and call applecare from the start if you have this problem.


I am fortunate in that I have everything backed up to Time Machine, a second mac, and on numerous drives. However, the mail program - at least for now - is DOA on my main computer and I have spent hours on the phone with tech at apple.

Dec 16, 2013 7:10 PM in response to Epic Peaks Coaching

This was an email account problem for me -- not an iPhone problem.


I had a phantom email message problem -- all originating in a Yahoo email account. Went to the Yahoo account online. With advanced search, looked for all messages sent to my account address. Search found the exact number of emails that were incorrectly flagged on my iPhone. These were all junk emails received over a two year period, but not appearing in either the junk or trash folders -- for some reason invisible in the account. I marked all for deletion -- would not and could not be deleted normally. So went to the 'empty trash folder' command and they were removed. iPhone is now free of the 'unread' notifications.


Reminds me of occasional failure of Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail accounts to delete sent/received messages despite settings calling for deletion after a set time period.


I hope this helps.

Phantom messages in Mail

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