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  • gobbo712 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I bought a MBP retina and Mavericks came preinstalled into it.

    I don't think Mountain Lion is free or even compatible with my machine.

    I also would like to point out that, AFAIK, Mountain Lion already sees gestures in finder stripped out.

     

    this forum is for answers, while it is legitimate to assume that technitians do not moderate the forum, I guess it is to suppose that some of them at least login and read/answer some posts from time to time.

     

    Anyway I would like to point out a couple of things:

    1) all these choices look like political/marketing choices. I don't believe there are any technical difficulties, mostly political. that is why Jobs was so important, and that's why apple is doomed.

    2) I thought that (and yes, Jobs was still alive) after more than one year of campaign spent mocking MS for all its customers downgrading from Vista to XP, I would NEVER feel the awkward sensation of having somebody @ the apple forum suggesting me to downgrade (I still don't think it's possible, though) from "The Best Apple OS Ever" which would be Mavericks

     

    I always thought of apple as a no-nonsense zone. I guess I was wrong.

     

    Wallace, I believe you know Mountain Lion well; can you please let us know if pinch-to-zoom or swipe-for-history works in finder in that version of OSX?

  • Leigh Oats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    A related problem with Mavericks:

     

    Using my clever PowerPC G4 PowerBook with OS 10.5.8 (aka Leopard), if I select (= highlight) any number of QuickTime files either from one folder or from a window of search results from anywhere in the computer then I can use that ancient but trusty computer’s Quick Look to automatically play one video after another.

     

    Whereas my newer MacBook with OS 10.9.1 (aka Mavericks) gives me no way to perform what I’ve been accustomed to call that quite ordinary trick.

     

    So as far as I can see, Mavericks offers no way to string several QuickTime files temporarily together for playing one after the other.

     

    I seem to remember that my MacBook’s Quick Look could perform that trick before I was rash enough to install Mavericks. I would love to find an easy way to reinstall that previous system—I’ve been told that my Time Machine won’t take me back to it.

     

    So whenever I want to play umpteen videos one after the other I use my PowerBook—it’s slower, but in some ways it’s more intelligent.

     

    It seems that the boys and girls in Cupertino have again performed the trick of “updated” the wheel by making it square.

  • gnoby Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    That's certainly something they love to do; give you a new feature, and take two features away. >:^(
    I try to keep as many old copies of Quicktime as I can, zipped, so they don't get overwritten when I upgrade.

  • gnoby Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    "I always thought of apple as a no-nonsense zone. I guess I was wrong."

    it's a corporation; they have to increase returns somehow, often by cutting corners on us. All they have to do is stay better than Windows ( obviously that's not too hard ) so they can keep mocking them - from 1991 to 2003, I only had 1, single, hardware failure; a fan that came loose; and they ran for months without ever restarting or crashing. Since the G5 I've had at least 1 major failure with every machine - being perfect isn't profitable -

  • Leigh Oats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Oops. I now can’t use the edit facility to edit the last of the hasty edits that I made a few minutes after creating my post of a few hours ago. In its final paragraph I mean to say not “updated” but “updating”:

     

    It seems that the boys and girls in Cupertino have again performed the trick of “updating” the wheel by making it square.

  • Leigh Oats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    And the upshot is that from now onwards I’ll be much more chary about accepting “updates” or “upgrades” from Cupertino.

     

    Is Steve turning in his grave about some untutored assumptions that his successors have been making in his absence?

  • Leigh Oats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Half-answering my own implied question, but in a way that does nothing to improve my opinion of Mavericks’ Quick Look:

     

    I’ve discovered that the registered and paid copy of GraphicConverter v6.7 in my MacBook with Mavericks (OS 10.9.1) lets me string several QuickTime files temporarily together for playing automatically one after the other.

     

    I could have sworn that I tried performing that trick soon after I acquired the MacBook and found that it didn’t work, and that I tried again after installing Mavericks, but perhaps an accidental tweak of mine in the last few weeks has enabled my MacBook’s GraphicConverter to come to the party.

     

    I’ve been accustomed to using the GraphicConverter in my PowerBook with 10.5.8 (= Leopard) to string QuickTime files together for playing automatically one after the other; but of course I have no need for that GraphicConverter trick when I’m using that computer, because its Quick Look is excellent at stringing QuickTime files together temporarily.

     

    Of course, when playing QuickTime files with GraphicConverter in either of my two Macs the screen doesn’t display information about the progress through each file in the way that’s done by a QuickTime player (in my case QT7 Pro), but in the circumstances I can do without such information when using GraphicConverter for playing videos.

  • Jon Walker Level 6 Level 6 (17,965 points)

    A related problem with Mavericks:

     

    Using my clever PowerPC G4 PowerBook with OS 10.5.8 (aka Leopard), if I select (= highlight) any number of QuickTime files either from one folder or from a window of search results from anywhere in the computer then I can use that ancient but trusty computer’s Quick Look to automatically play one video after another.

     

    Whereas my newer MacBook with OS 10.9.1 (aka Mavericks) gives me no way to perform what I’ve been accustomed to call that quite ordinary trick.

     

    So as far as I can see, Mavericks offers no way to string several QuickTime files temporarily together for playing one after the other.

     

    I seem to remember that my MacBook’s Quick Look could perform that trick before I was rash enough to install Mavericks. I would love to find an easy way to reinstall that previous system—I’ve been told that my Time Machine won’t take me back to it.

     

    So whenever I want to play umpteen videos one after the other I use my PowerBook—it’s slower, but in some ways it’s more intelligent.

     

    It seems that the boys and girls in Cupertino have again performed the trick of “updated” the wheel by making it square.

    Have you looked into the possibility that your system is corrupted or has some sort of conflict or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

     

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    As seen above, I have no problem selecting and loading multiple files into the QL Mavericks system "preview' player. I.e., if I select multiple files in the Finder and then press the space bar, the system preview player ("QL") window opens and automatically begins playback as seen here...

     

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    At this point I can watch the first file in the list play, jump to a chapter marker within the playing file, jump to the next/previous consecutive file in the playback list by pressing the window or keyboard "right/left arrow" keys, or switch to the window "icon" view to select/play videos in random (non-sequential) order as seen here...

     

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    Frankly, I don't normally use QL as I see no real difference between using a media player built into the OS and using one that is a seperate app like QT X, QT 7, iTunes, VLC, etc. For me, it is the capabilities and features of the media player that are most important when deciding how to open/play one or more media files. For instance, if I want continuous, automatic playback, I would use a "Playlist" in iTunes or VLC or use a "Reference" file in the QT 7 player to mimic a "playlist" file. (It is also unlikely that I would ever sit still for 21-22 hours just to watch 26 consecutive TV episodes as in my previous example.) In a similar manner, if I wish to examine multiple files simultaneously (complete with Inspector and/or Properties, I would open all 26 files simultaneously in QT 7. Or, if I wish to create an M3U playlist for VLC, iTunes, etc. or when the files are not compatible with QT, then I would go directly to the VLC player.

  • Leigh Oats Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Dear Jon,

     

    You say:

     

    [. . .] if I want continuous, automatic playback, I would [. . .] use a "Reference" file in the QT 7 player to mimic a "playlist" file.

     

    Thanks for that idea. As a luddite who’s more at home with such ridiculously user-friendly software as QuarkXPress and Adobe InDesign (complete with their excellent  instructions written in universal English) I’ll swot up on the said reference files and playlist files in relation to QuickTime. 

     

    Meanwhile GraphicsConverter has become enough of a solution to the trouble I’ve been having with Mavericks and the automatic playing of one QuickTime file after another, regardless of whether the files are all video-plus-audio or whether they include purely audio.

     

    Thanks again for your interest in my woes.

  • markfrancombe23 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Havent read the whole thread, but this worked for me...
    http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1396

  • zampino Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the link, but this makes the issue even more irksome to me.  Apparently there is a solution to the missing codecs for QuickLook, but if you don't own one of the professional apps in the link you sent, then you can't install these codecs.  Previous posters have explained to us how impossible it is for Apple to include legacy codecs, but perhaps Apple can... if I'm willing to pay for a pro app.

  • bidsbid Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I have video files that open on preview but dont open anywhere else. And they show 0kbs. Its strange because i can see the video on the preview but i cant edit or open them anywhere. Can someone please help, its kind of urgent. thanks

  • billpaulafromwaco Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I am having the same problem with my Yosemite 10.10.2 on MacBook Air.  Received a "video -3MOV" from a friend and QT player can't open.  Never had this problem prior to Yosemite.

  • DanTheMan000 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Jon Walker wrote:

     

    ... For instance, it appears that neither QT X v10.3 nor QT natively support legacy formats like AIC/PCM MOV, Animation/PCM MOV, or PNG/PCM nor DV/DV content in a DV file container but continue to support DV/PCM in MOV, H.264/AAC in MOV/MP4/M4V, MPEG4/AAC in MOV/MP4, HDV/PCM in MOV, ProRes422/PCM in MOV, etc. ...

     

    I can confirm that both QT 10.3 on Mavericks as well as QT 10.4 on Yosemite play DV/PCM in *.mov files. However, support for DV/PCM in *.dv files provides an inconsistent experience. I remuxed my *.mov files into *.dv using ffmpeg and also tried *.mov files imported through iMovie '09. This is what I found, on my MBPs at least:

     

    Running Yosemite (10.10.2) on my older MBP,  "Quick Look" and "Quick Time Player" (10.4) play DV/PCM in *.dv files just fine:

     

     

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    Running Mavericks (10.9.5) on my newer MBP (retina),  "Quick Look" and "Quick Time Player" (10.3) do not play DV/PCM in *.dv files. Only after I installed QT7 (as suggested by Apple for support of older codecs), I can play these files using QT 7 on this MBP. "Quick Look" still is not playing these dv-video files:

     

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    The major difference between these two MacBooks is that my older MBP  was updated version by version from Lion to Yosemite. Somehow the capability to support DV video files was "inherited" from the earlier versions. However, the newer MBP got Mavericks installed from scratch and therefore is missing something.

     

    What can I do make my newer MBP support *.dv ? I already installed Perian (although I know that Perian is not supported on 10.9 and above) but - as expected - to no avail. Any ideas? Thanks!

  • Jon Walker Level 6 Level 6 (17,965 points)

    The major difference between these two MacBooks is that my older MBP  was updated version by version from Lion to Yosemite. Somehow the capability to support DV video files was "inherited" from the earlier versions. However, the newer MBP got Mavericks installed from scratch and therefore is missing something.

     

    What can I do make my newer MBP support *.dv ? I already installed Perian (although I know that Perian is not supported on 10.9 and above) but - as expected - to no avail. Any ideas? Thanks!

    I suspect, but cannot confirm at this point, that this is a result of how QT X v10.3 has been re-programmed in QT X v10.4 to handle video file extensions. QT 7 assumes that any compression format may be "wrapped" in an MOV file container and so it "tests" the actual content to see if it can be played. On the other hand, QT X players seem to "look" at the video file extension and then only tests to see if "expected" forms of compressed data are present in the file container. Thus, QT X v10.3 and QL (Mavericks) "expects" DV/DV compressed data to be contained in a DV container and "expects" DV/PCM compressed data to be stored in an MOV file container. However, QT X v10.4 and QL (Yosemite) now seems to be programmed to play either DV/DV or DV/PCM in a DV extension file but won't play DV/DV compressed data if it "sees" the data in a file with an MOV extension. For example...

     

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    This is what I get in QL under Yosemite if I open  DV/DV data in a file with a DV extension. However...

     

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    This is what I get if I take the same file and change the extension from "DV" to "MOV" under Yosemite. (I.e., the QT X v10.4 player looks at the MOV file extension and decides it cannot "play" the DV/DV content even though we see in the image above the DV/DV content is actually playable with the DV extension.)

     

    Unfortunately, I do not have an external Mavericks boot-configured drive currently available for testing my hypothesis working in the opposite direction. Therefore, suggest you perform a quick test on your Mavericks system and report back. That is, I suggest you take one of your DV/PCM files with a DV file extension and simply change the "DV" extension to "MOV" and see if the file is then compatible with both QT X v10.3 and QL playback under Mavericks. If so, it would tend to confirm that your current playback differences are a result of the manner in which the QT X v10.3 and v10.4 are programmed to handle the MOV and DV file extensions. It would also confirm the availability of playback options—either 1) convert content as you have already confirmed that you can, 2) "lie" to the system by manually changing the file extension to "by-pass" current playback restrictions, or 3) use QT 7 or a third-party media player that does not have the current Mavericks and Yosemite QT X file extension playback restrictions.

     

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