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  • Wolf.NBM Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    AFP only works on servers/NAS devices that support it. It is Apple's proprietary network file protocol, and I believe they have abandoned it in favor of SMB2. If you use Windows-based servers or NAS devices that only support SMB- it isn't an alternative.


    CIFS is an alternative that forces the use of SMB1 in Mavericks, without using the SMB1 hack (earlier in this discussion). For whatever reason- it seems to actually work worse than the old Mac SMB implementation.


    iWork is still useless on network shares, and CIFS/SMB1 still randomly disconnect and cause permission corruption for all of our users who we upgraded to Mavericks. For the record- we had random and infrequent permission corruption in earlier versions of OS X, but with Mavericks- we can count on it on a regular basis.


    I'll look at Tuxera, but as a rule- we try to keep things as "native" as-possible to avoid future compatibility issues. This is a problem Apple needs to get fixed if they really want to make serious inroads into the Enterprise, which they claim they do. In many ways- their competition is self-destructing and becoming desperate- they should be taking advantage of it. I had to buy six new Windows computers this month for my company, which could have been MacBooks if it wasn't for these problems.

  • Wolf.NBM Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Just as follow-up: From what I can tell from their own documentation and support database- Tuxera is strictly an NTFS stack/driver for Mac (and other non-Windows devices). It allows the reading and writing of NTFS drives. That actually has nothing to do with SMB at all. It is likely very useful to connect to USB drives running NTFS, but not actual NAS devices or servers. It's possible it may help with permission issues tied to NTFS via SMB, but there is nothing on their Web site that indicates that. I may give it a try anyway.


    Also, with regard to my previous reply, I believe AFP is still used by Time Capsule, but not by most 3rd party NAS devices, which use CIFS/SMB1.

  • Petie81 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ok, thanks.

    So, I have a qNAP and if I can connect with AFP it meens that qNAP supports AFP, right? Can it harm my files?

  • Wolf.NBM Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    AFP and CIFS/SMB are not compatible at all. If you can access your files using AFP- you are probably fine.

  • Petie81 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ok, Thank you

  • gunwalloe Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Are there any working resolutions for this yet? We are struggling with this issue in our corporate environment. Have tried multiple things suggested in this thread, but issues still persist. We are running Windows Server 2003 for our shared drives, and upgrading these is out of the question.



  • RBuday Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Sadly, no solution yet. A true bummer.

  • kginger_consulting Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This happening on AFP shares as well. I put in a call to apple enterprise and they spoke to the iWork team... It is a known issue and there is no fix. I am recommending switching to MS Office. New iWork is missing a lot of needed features anyways.

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (33,820 points)

    Why not just use iWork '09?


    It should be in your Applications/iWork folder.



  • mwrourke Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I do have a workaround - of sorts. This allows iWork '09 documents to co-exist with iWork '13 documents.


    If you rename the three iWork Apps in /Applications/iWork '09 by appending (say) '09', so Numbers becomes Numbers09, you can alter the "Open with" file property (using %I) to reference the new name.


    This works for files on an AFP or SMB share.


    Note that "Change All".. doesn't work.


    And also note that if a version of an iWork Application is already running, additional concurrent file opens will use the same version.


    Haven't seen any negative consequences of this so far.

  • joe555 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Nearly 3 months now with no solution?


    And no, I don't consider copying file  to desktop, editing, saving, copying back to server a solution.  Maybe if we were still using floppies yes, but not in 2014.


    Killing me softly.

  • kginger_consulting Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    For OS X Server 10.9.1 I have resorted to running a shell script to recursively set ACL group owner and full control permissions (in my case Workgroup) every 15 minutes:


    in /usr/local/bin/


    # Fix ACLs for iWork 3

    echo "Fixing ACLs"


    chmod -R +a "Workgroup allow list,add_file,search,delete,add_subdirectory,delete_child,readattr,writeattr,re adextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,writesecurity,chown,file_inherit,directory_i nherit" /path/to/your/directory


    # put message in system log

    syslog -s -l error "ACLs have been changed to Workgroup"


    make it run as root

    chmod u+s /usr/local/bin/


    schedule via launchd every 15 mins, in /Library/LaunchDameons/com.example.iworkfix.plist

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

    <!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "">

    <plist version="1.0">
















    (you can also use to create your launchd plist)

  • PeterBreis0807 Level 7 Level 7 (33,820 points)



    Why not just use iWork '09?


    It should be in your Applications/iWork folder.



  • Wolf.NBM Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)


    This only works as a solution if one previously had installed iWork '09. It does nothing to fix a problem that Apple seems to be ignoring, and as others have noted- this affects far more than just iWork. There are underlying SMB permission and access issues that can negatively impact anything stored on an SMB share. The current version of iWork just becomes unusable because of it.

  • kginger_consulting Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    @PeterBreis0807 Consider that we have 100+ documents that have been updated to new iWork format.


    AFAIK that this happens on ALL network shares, AFP and SMB. I would have switched to MS Office but all our Numbers docs use the "floating" tables and will not convert to Excel properly.