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Q: Mavericks files / directories in finder slow showing up

I have had this problem happen very consistently. When pulling up finder or an application that needs to call on an open file dialog to look for something, the files and subfodlers take a long time to actually show up. If I select a subfolder, the progress wheel will grind in the lower-left corner for 15-30 seconds before the files in that subfolder show up. Selecting another level under that will give me the same delay.

 

I'm running an 2012 27" iMac, fully loaded with an i7 and max mem.

 

Anyone else having ths problem? I thought at first it might be a spotlight/index issue with my drive once I initially upgrade, but I have had it now for several days with my computer left on the entire time, so indexing should have been done.

 

Any ideas on what is causing this is or how to work around it?

 

Thanks.

Posted on Oct 27, 2013 1:55 PM

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  • by Snaggletooth_DE,

    Snaggletooth_DE Snaggletooth_DE Nov 20, 2013 10:21 AM in response to brilor
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    Nov 20, 2013 10:21 AM in response to brilor

    Working workaround:

     

    Use the following statements in Terminal.

     

    sudo vi /etc/auto_master

     

    In this file comment out /net with #  (#/net .....)

     

    sudo automount -vc

     

    Fixed.

  • by brilor,

    brilor brilor Nov 20, 2013 1:48 PM in response to Snaggletooth_DE
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    Nov 20, 2013 1:48 PM in response to Snaggletooth_DE

    Snaggletooth_DE wrote:

     

    Working workaround:

     

    Use the following statements in Terminal.

     

    sudo vi /etc/auto_master

     

    In this file comment out /net with #  (#/net .....)

     

    sudo automount -vc

     

    Fixed.

    Confirmed here too both for Preview.app Open file sluggishness and Finder window population. Thanks Snaggletooh_DE!

     

    Couple of notes:

    (1) Some folks may be more comfortable using a GUI editor like TextWrangler instead of vi

         a) in the Finder use the GO menu and select Go to Folder

         b) type  '/etc' ( without single quotes ) in the Go to folder dialog box and press the Go button

         c) Right ( Control  ) click the auto_master file in the resulting Finder window. Select "Open with...." and use TextWrangler ( your choice )

         d) Comment out the line by inserting a '#' ( pound sign ) as noted in Snaggletooth_DE's instructions

         e) Save the file  ( probably need to authenticate with your admin password  )

         f) Do the 'sudo automount -vc' per Snaggletooth_DE's instructions. Will need to authenticate again.

     

    (2) Notice Snaggletooth_DE described this as a "workaround" because it bypasses an Apple bug. Presumably most people have not changed their auto_master file and it worked fine in Mountain Lion and prior. In other words: If you haven't done so already, please continue to submit feedback and bug reports to Apple for this issue

     

    Kudos to Snaggletooth_DE for figuring out code is trying to look at network ( NFS ) volumes that maybe don't exist.

  • by brilor,

    brilor brilor Nov 20, 2013 2:00 PM in response to brilor
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    Nov 20, 2013 2:00 PM in response to brilor

    btw: I updated the rdar (  15437435 ) to include Snaggletooth_DE's workaround

  • by Scott Newman,

    Scott Newman Scott Newman Nov 20, 2013 2:03 PM in response to kb8wfh
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    Nov 20, 2013 2:03 PM in response to kb8wfh

    HUGE Thanks!

     

    Note that people who have the version of Text Wrangler that distributed in the Mac App Store will not be able to use it to manually change the relevant file as described above.  For that, you need the "real" version from the Text Wrangler website.     http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/

  • by StutterStyle,

    StutterStyle StutterStyle Nov 20, 2013 4:55 PM in response to kb8wfh
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    Nov 20, 2013 4:55 PM in response to kb8wfh

    I am having the same issue.  I have a Late 2012 iMac 27" i7, SSD (Fusion), 32GB Ram  and Finder has the little wheel in the bottom as a go through a heirchy.  It takes at least 10 seconds per folder as I progressivly get deeper.

  • by Dan Pimentel,

    Dan Pimentel Dan Pimentel Nov 21, 2013 1:42 PM in response to brilor
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    Nov 21, 2013 1:42 PM in response to brilor

    Confirming that so far in one day of HEAVY use after doing this workaround described above from Snaggletooth_DE, this appears to have fixed the issue. I have not had one episode of a hung finder using file/open, mail attachments, anything. Maybe if Apple is listening they will tweak next version of Mavericks to include this.

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Nov 21, 2013 4:29 PM in response to brilor
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    Nov 21, 2013 4:29 PM in response to brilor

    brilor wrote:

    Kudos to Snaggletooth_DE for figuring out code is trying to look at network ( NFS ) volumes that maybe don't exist.

    But keep in mind that network volumes using the NFS protocol may exist, & commenting out the /net entry in /etc/auto_master will prevent them from mounting automatically.

     

    FWIW, from the auto_master man page, the default master map should look like this (& has not changed for at least five years, so it is not specific the Mavericks):

     

               #

               # Automounter master map

               #

               +auto_master            # Use directory service

               /net                    -hosts          -nobrowse,hidefromfinder,nosuid

               /home                   auto_home       -nobrowse,hidefromfinder

               /Network/Servers        -fstab

               /-                      -static

    I suggest at least comparing this default to what your own /etc/auto_master file looks like before changing anything. (Mine looks exactly like that & I do not have any slow Finder population issues except for one: if I open the root level startup disk -- typically named Macintosh HD -- directly from the desktop, it takes about 10 seconds for it to populate, but only once per startup of the system.)

  • by zer0ed,

    zer0ed zer0ed Nov 21, 2013 7:01 PM in response to Snaggletooth_DE
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    Nov 21, 2013 7:01 PM in response to Snaggletooth_DE

    Snaggletooth_DE,

    Thanks for this workaround until Apple fixes it! It's been bugging the heck out of me!

  • by kb8wfh,

    kb8wfh kb8wfh Nov 24, 2013 5:16 AM in response to brilor
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    Nov 24, 2013 5:16 AM in response to brilor

    tryign to edit this file, I recieve a message indicating I do not have permission to edit this file. I asks me if I want to dreate a pupliucate, which is useless becuase it changes the document type to a text file rather than a 'document."

     

    I am looged in as the administator. So how do I edit this file with the great and powerfull Oz's benevolent permission to fix this maddening probelm?

  • by kb8wfh,

    kb8wfh kb8wfh Nov 24, 2013 5:17 AM in response to kb8wfh
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    Nov 24, 2013 5:17 AM in response to kb8wfh

    To be more precice, the error I get is:

     

    "You don’t have permission to write to the folder that the file “auto_master” is in."

  • by kb8wfh,

    kb8wfh kb8wfh Nov 24, 2013 5:20 AM in response to kb8wfh
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    Nov 24, 2013 5:20 AM in response to kb8wfh

    Never mind. I went into the folder info and unlocked the folder (authenticated) and added Administrator as a viable read/write authorization. Glad I didn't have to get the bloomstick of the wicked witch of the west first.

     

    This level of bug can not possibly have escaped Apple's beta testing and it's inexcusable they release Mavericks with stuff like this in it.

  • by Scott Newman,

    Scott Newman Scott Newman Nov 24, 2013 6:35 AM in response to kb8wfh
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    Nov 24, 2013 6:35 AM in response to kb8wfh

    kb8wfh:  It's probably a good idea to go into Disk Utility and repair permissions.  It certainly won't hurt anything and it will restore the default and correct permissions to this file.

  • by kb8wfh,

    kb8wfh kb8wfh Nov 24, 2013 6:37 AM in response to Scott Newman
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    Nov 24, 2013 6:37 AM in response to Scott Newman

    I've run DiskUtility and repaired permission five times today. Three after I have run the workaround.

     

    EPIC FAIL, APPLE!

  • by Reinko Hallenga,

    Reinko Hallenga Reinko Hallenga Nov 24, 2013 11:47 AM in response to kb8wfh
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    Nov 24, 2013 11:47 AM in response to kb8wfh

    Having this problem too. Quickest workaround when I'm saving a file is to drag and drop the correct location from the finder onto the app's dialog. This will then show up (even if the folders at the same levels still aren't showing).  

  • by Dan Pimentel,

    Dan Pimentel Dan Pimentel Nov 24, 2013 11:53 AM in response to Reinko Hallenga
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    Nov 24, 2013 11:53 AM in response to Reinko Hallenga

    I am several days into the workaround posted here by Snaggletooth_DE and it has worked perfectly...issue is gone for me. I have three external FW drives on this Macbook Pro, mounting them, ejecting, etc...all read fine. No more finder issues for me at this point. Just follow the instructiosn exactly...a little unnerving at first but I did it and have not seen any other issues with any part of the system or various apps.

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