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Why do I have mysterious cellular data usage (Verizon) every 6 hours on all 3 of my iphone 5's?

I have recently uncovered mysterious cellular usage on three different iPhones. I am a Verizon customer and discovered this by examining the cellular data use logs. What I found are a long series of mysterious data usage logs. I have visited the Genius Bar at my local Apple Store 3 times now to log notes and discuss the issue. It is being escalated.


The characterstics are as follows:

  • All my family phones have the appropriate IOS and hardware updates (verified by the GeniusBar at my local Apple Store).
  • This is occuring across three phones, which happen to all be iphone 5. Two are 5 and the other a new 5s. We do have one iphone 4 in the family but the issue (so far as I can tell), is not happening on it.
  • One iphone 5 has IOS 7, the other IOS 6. The new 5s has of course IOS 7.
  • Mysterious data use happens even while connected to wifi.
  • Each mysterious data use log entry is exactly 6 hours apart. For example: 2:18 AM, 8:18 AM, 2:18 PM, 8:18 PM, 2:18 AM ... etc. It cycles AM and PM, same times, for a day to many days until some condition causes it to change (evolve).
  • The times evolve. One day it could be cycling through at one time series, then it changes to another time sequence and continues until the next condition.
  • The data usage is anywhere from a few K to many MB. The largest I've seen is over 100 MB.
  • The logs clearly show these usages are not due to human interaction. It is a program.
  • If cellular connection is used frequently (by the owner), the pattern is hard to pick out. Luckily, my family member is very good about only using wifi whenever possible, so these mysterious use patterns are easy to pick out.
  • Verizon allows access to 90 days worth of data logs, so I downloaded and analyzed them. This has been happening for at least 90 days. I have found 298 instances of mysterious use out of 500 total connections to cellular. A total of 3.5 GB of mysterious cellular data has been recorded as used in that 90 days by this phone alone. Only .6 GB of the total cellular data use is legitimate, meaning by the person.
  • This issue is occuring across three different phones. Two are iPhone 5, and the third is a recently purchased iPhone 5s. The 5s I have not touched beyone the basic startup. I have left it alone on a desk for 3 days, and looking at the logs, the mysterious data use in the same pattern is occuring.


So ... I am speaking to both sides, Verizon and Apple to get answers. Verizon puts their wall up at data usage. It doesn't matter how it is being used, you simply need to pay for it. Yes, the evidence I have gathered is getting closer to someting on Verizon's end.


Before pressing in that direction, I am hoping someone reading this may recognize this issue as a possible iPhone 5 issue ... OR ... you, right now, go look at your data usage logs available through your carrier's web account, and see if you can pick out a pattern of mysterious use. Look especially at the early morning instances when you are most likely sleeping.


I am hoping this is a simple issue that has a quick resolution. I'm looking for the "ooohhh, I see that now ..." But I am starting to think this might be much bigger, but the fact is, most customers rarely or never look at their data usage details, much less discover mysterious use patterns.


The final interesting (maybe frightening part) thing about all this is that I discovered while talking to Verizon ... they do not divulge which direction the data is going. This goes for any use, mysterious or legitimate. Is cellular data coming to your phone, or leaving it? Is something pulling data from your phone? We know that it is possible to build malware apps, but the catch with my issue is that it is also happening on a brand new iphone 5s with nothing downloaded to it.


Thanks for your time

iPhone 5, iphone 5 and 5c, both ios 6 and 7

Posted on Oct 28, 2013 10:20 AM

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Posted on Jan 23, 2014 10:59 AM

mtamaki wrote:



Other questions from a while back in the disucssion -


  1. Which way is the data going, push or pull?
  2. Why does it use cellular data only and not wifi when it is within a strong wifi network? The 6 hour increment of data use does stop when you turn off cellular data.
  3. What on the iPhone, even it were service oriented, requires that much data? Ideas may include documents, email, pictures, video, application data, facetime video and sound ... etc

1. No way to know which way it is going, unless you have an app such as Onavo. However, Settings/Cellular shows cumulatively how much data was sent and how much was received.


2. Being within a WiFi field is not sufficient. WiFi goes off 30 seconds after the screen goes off to save battery, so any data transfer when the screen is off will go over cellular. WiFi, unlike cellular, uses power continuously, whether transferring data or not. This is not an iPhone characteristic; it is the nature of the WiFi standard. But it means that if WiFi stayed on all the time the battery would run down very fast. The exception is when the phone is connected to power. Then WiFi stays on.


3. Settings/Cellular will show you how much data each app uses, but not what the app is using it for. You can turn off individual apps to prevent them from using cellular data. If you take frequent screen shots of that page you can sort of graph your data usage for each app over time.


Regarding the 6 hours, it's more complicated than I implied. (I've worked on telecom billing systems). Whenever you leave one area covered by a Mobile Telephone Switching Office (MTSO) that switch sends a single record to the billing system showing all of the data you used while connected to the switch. These occur at random times. (An MTSO can support many towers, so it is a larger scale than simply a tower). The systems I worked on also had a "close" function at the end of the day that sent a single billing record from the MTSO you are connected to at the close time, which is roughly midnight PST for AT&T. This is so if you stay home for several days you get a summary record each day rather that one after multiple days. Many other carriers around the world use the same billing system.


Verizon uses a different billing system. I'm guessing here, because I never worked on Verizon's system, but since the 6 hour interval is so consistent I suspect that Verizon's MTSOs send the summary record from the MTSO you have been connected to every 6 hours rather than every 24 hours. The reason you see other usage in between is due to the fact that as you travel when you leave the coverage area of an MTSO a summary is generated also. And sometimes you can even switch MTSOs without moving; for example, if your local switch is overloaded you might be transferred to another nearby switch. This is especially common in large cities, where a switch may cover only a few blocks, as opposed to a rural network when the switches can be 15 miles apart.


On a historical note, when AT&T and Apple released the first iPhone a billing record was generated for every data transfer. This resulted in users getting bills of 300 or more pages, listing every transfer. Also, since the record only reported in kilobyte chunks, a 100 byte transfer would be reported as 1 KB. As data was unlimited for the first iPhone this usage inflation on the bill was not a problem for the customer, but it did make people wonder where all that information was going.

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Jun 13, 2014 12:05 PM in response to reet

Thanks for the tip of turning off LTE and just using 3G. I will see how it changes things. I would venture to say that setting to 3G may act as a kind of "throttle" for the data since it is a slower network, rather than reduce the actual amount used. Hopefully it works though.


If it does and that is a "solution", then the paradox kind of speaks for itself. Fancy $600+ smart phone out of our control. Minimizing and setting all kinds of controls on the phone itself is the only way to mitigate it. Why aren't those setting set by default so our money isn't drained?


Verizon's 6 hour disconnects/reconnects makes sense technically. So cellular data is continuously deducted from our data plans even when on a wifi network to the tune of many hundreds of MB so several GB per month.


Still ... what do companies want with all this data from our smart phones? Is it video, pictures or sound? Why haven't software applications on our personal computers also sent this much information (non-user initiated) while idle or while in use daily ... or do they?

Jul 18, 2014 7:18 PM in response to mtamaki

Stumbled on this thread after getting data usage warnings. At first I assumed that my wife or I had simply done too much video stuff, but then I noticed this same 6 hour pattern which is mentioned by many people on the thread - We have two Iphone 5 units with verizon. In reading the whole thread it now seems clear that both Lawrence Finch and the Network Engineer who responded to Reet have essentially confirmed that the interval is to due a setting on the Verizon system, as opposed to something on the phone like an App that polls every six hours.


However one piece of data counters the specific assertion by the engineer that after staying in continuous LTE for 6 hours, it disconnects and reconnects and that is when data usage is rolled up. If that were strictly the case, we would not see what people have posted from the verizon data usage area showing logs of data usage in between these 6 hour intervals as well. This distinction may not fundamentally change the nature of trying to figure out what the data is, but it means we still do not know what data gets rolled up at six hour intervals and what data gets logged separately.


Let's pretend/assume for a moment that there is nothing insidious or nefarious and that the timing of the logged records of data usage on the verizon site is something based on a combination of technical and other factors we won't ever get full technical details on. We KNOW that if we have Background App Refresh on that our phone is going to be using data at unpredictable intervals, so we shouldn't worry about the fact that we can't tie Verizon usage records directly to activity which represented us interacting with the phone. This icnludes apps like weather and stocks which are part of the default in the box setup, so we'll see usage even with nothing but defaults. If we want our phone to not send and receive data except when we initiate it, we have to turn off background app refresh and possibly change the Fetch settings and some other settings. That's the nature of the beast.


The larger concern is usage. I don't care if I use an extra 50MB a month on things I can't understand or track. I do care if it's an extra 1 GB. So Lawrence Finch has been correct all along that the main thing to do here is figure out which apps are using significant amounts of data. The six hour interval isn't really critical to this other than it illustrates that Verizon data usage logs are not real time, so we need to take that into account when comparing them with phone usage logs. What he suggested makes sense - either disable as much as possible and then add back bit by bit and see what causes high usage, or clear usage history and then check it at short intervals to determine specifically what uses a lot of data. And compare this data from the phone for short intervals to the verizon data usage information -obviously we've learned that we'll need at least a six hour interval to get reliable comparisons.


So that's what I'll be trying. I haven't reset my usage since March, so I can clearly see right now that youtube and safari represent 90% of my data usage. The odd thing is that I had a 250MB usage record today even though my wife and I both stopped using youtube and safari after discovering we were at 75% usage two days ago. So no idea what to think, but at this point we don't have specific enough data to be able to say definitively that Verizon's charging us for something we didn't do. If we find say a 2 day period with 20MB usage logged on the phone and 100MB logged on verizon, then we'll know.

Jul 29, 2014 4:50 PM in response to eparrot

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one with this issue! It is happening with my daughter's iPhone 5s, and not my iPhone 5. We weren't aware until we got a notification that our data was used up for the month. I called Verizon about the "every 6 hours" issue. We tried resetting a few things, and he "thought" it was the Minecraft app that she had on her phone. Well, obviously this wasn't the case since it is still happening! I'm kind of annoyed that this is happening and I'm having to pay for more data than we really actually use because of this mysterious problem. I've gone through all of the posts and turned things off to see what happens. I want her to be able to USE her phone when not in the house connected to wi-fi. I guess I'll be on the phone with Verizon again complaining.

Sep 17, 2014 1:36 PM in response to mtamaki

Here's the problem: Data Plan w/ AT&T and Verizon. I am just fed up with having to watch how much data i (and the rest of my family) am using and what is available before billing cycle ends. Once my contract ends with Verizon, I will be looking for Unlimited Data (Sprint). Trust me guys, its not your phones. My son has an iPhone 4 and I have an HTC Android (everything above applies).

Sep 25, 2014 8:17 AM in response to stlusch

I am convinced that the main culprit is the Background App Refresh. With a little experimenting I went from a mysterious 300+mb usage a day (broken up into the previously stated 6 hour download increments) to approximately 30mb a day, the reduction was linked to turning off the Background App Refresh. Try it, so far it has helped by diminishing my mysterious data usage.

Feb 5, 2015 4:29 PM in response to mtamaki

I believe I have the same issue with AT&T. 2 of the users on my plan just upgraded to iPhone 5 S and the data usage on these phones increased dramatically. Both had the Background App Refresh on for Face Book, Snap Chat, and Instagram activated and both show the huge data uses at regular intervals even when the phones were connected to wifi. The users turned this Background App Refresh off today so I'll look at the usage tomorrow to verify the reduction of the data usage.

Feb 5, 2015 4:54 PM in response to mtamaki

I have been using a mobile broadband modem since 2010 and I have never figured out what's using my data plan. Apparently Apple Mail and iCloud are big contributors. I have Mail, Calendar, and Notes using iCloud so my iPhone 4 will sync. I've noticed that a lot of the excessive usage is uplink, not downlink as I had expected. Facebook is a data hog as well. I'm struggling to stay within a 16GB data plan and I don't stream movies or music, I don't play games, and I haven't updated anything in months. I do keep the firewall enabled on my computer, phone, and mobile broadband modem. I would love to hear something from Apple about this.

Why do I have mysterious cellular data usage (Verizon) every 6 hours on all 3 of my iphone 5's?

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