No input signal (relates to Native Instruments Guitar Rig 5)

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No input signal (relates to Native Instruments Guitar Rig 5)

Hi

I have scoured the net and this forum for solutions to this bizarre problem, but found nothing that solved my problem. Alos posted this question on the Native Instruments forum, but have had no replies).

Tech details:

I have a MAC Mini 10.8.3. My audio Interface is a Steinberg UR22. I use Logic Pro 9.1.8.

I have downloaded the GR 5 demo. It shows up and loads fine in Logic. Unfortunately, however, there is no input signal at all coming through to GR. Input and output paths in both MAC and Logic are all switched correctly to Steinberg. Audio Software Monitoring is also selected in Logic Audio. I have also selected and deselected the L and R channel icons in GR with no results, still no input signal. I have swapped audio input channel on the Steinberg. The cable works and is plugged in so it's not one of those Duh! moments either.

Now the funny part: As mentioned, when I open GR inside a Logic project, I get no input signal.

However, when i go to my NU folder and open GR there, I do get an input signal. I also get the 'file' etc tabs at the top and am able to check settings etc (which of course you can't do when you open GR inside Logic). However, any changes made in GR when it is opened in the folder do not affect the GR opened inside Logic, so there is no point changing anything in the settings.

The only other strange thing is that in the GR that does have an input signal...it plays both the GR sound that is selected as well as the 'dry' guitar sound, therefore messing up the real sound.

The fact that I do get a signal in GR when I open it outside of Logic does not help me at all, I need a signal in GR inside of the Logic project so i can make a test recording.

Does anyone here have a any suggestion or tips please?

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Posted on Oct 29, 2013 12:31 PM

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Answer 1

Pancenter

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Nov 4, 2013 4:22 PM in response to michaelv03

Don't worry about the other tabs just make sure "core audio" is enabled and you have the UR22 set as both Input and output device. (DAE & TDM were removed in later versions of Logic 9)

Next plug your guitar into Input 2, the guitar is Hi-z so make sure the Hi-z (impedance) button is depressed. Next bring the input gain up and the output gain to 50% as well

Next open Logic, select a Mono audiotrack make sure the input on the channel strip shows Input 2.

Any signal?

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Answer 2

Pancenter

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Nov 4, 2013 2:37 PM in response to michaelv03

First... when a plugin is used in Logic it is not standalone, in other words, If you aren't getting signal into Logic the plugin will not receive signal on it's own, that's not the way it works. The GR demo is inserted in Logic's signal path, if the signal is not getting into logic it's not going through the GH.

Alos, Logic runs indepently from the Mac's Audio preferences, so it doesn't matter what you set the Mac's system preferences to, it's only matters how you have Logic's preferences set.

go here:

http://documentation.apple.com/en/logicpro/usermanual/#chapter=2%26section=0

Read configuring your audio hardware..

Also, go here and make sure you're using the latest driver:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/support/downloads_hardware/downloads_ur22.html

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michaelv03 Author

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Nov 4, 2013 1:34 PM in response to Pancenter

Hi pancenter,

So sorry about the delay in replying to your comment. The answer is: No, I cannot even get an input signal from my guitar in Logic, even when not using Guitar rig. I can hear the sound but there is no signal in the channel strip. I have of course clicked on 'R'.

I can only hear the clean, original guitar sound from my guitar, but when I select a guitar sound in Logic (for example a simple distorted guit) I still hear only the orioginal guitar sound and not the sound I selected..and of course there is still no signal.

So, this means that for some reason the guitar does not seem to go through Logic or Logic does not recognise it. I have once again tried plugging in the cable into both jacks of my udio interface...no change.

Again, I use Steinber to both record and monitor (which is what it is designed for) but for some reason Logic does not like it.

Preferences in both MAC and Logic are correctly set to Steinberg as in and out put.

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michaelv03 Author

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Nov 4, 2013 3:08 PM in response to Pancenter

Hi pancenter,

Thank you for your advice.

I downloaded the latest driver and restarted my MAC.

I read the documentation. but it seems as if I had set up everything correctly.

There is one difference though, not sure if it matters: in the documentation apart form the core audio it is also showing 'DAE' and 'Direct TDM'. These are tabs I do not have in my logic preferences.

Screen shot attached. User uploaded file

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Answer 5

michaelv03 Author

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Nov 5, 2013 9:57 PM in response to Pancenter

This solved the problem. My small but devastating error was that I did not select the input in the track as that was something I never had to do before. I had always set it to 1 and never had a reason to change it. In any case, I followed your advice precisely and I was able to get a signal.

I can't thank you enough!!! Thanks very much for all your kind help, pancenter!🙂

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Answer 6

Pancenter

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Oct 29, 2013 1:30 PM in response to michaelv03

This may sound like a ridiculous question... Are you able to get a good clean signal recorded into Logic directly.

No plugins... just a direct guitar onto one of Logic's audio tracks.

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