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Q: Bizarre file arrangement in Finder

I have no idea what the **** is going on with Finder since the upgrade to Mavericks, but I do know that it has become royally frustrating!

 

I like my files to be arranged in a very simple format—separated by file type, then alphabatized within that file type and with folders appearing at the top. This should not be complicated and I've been able to do it just fine on past versions of OSX, but with Mavericks it's apparently become impossible.

 

I have tried Arrange By Kind and Sort By Name only later to have the alphabetical arrangement completely screwed up. So I tried Arrange By Name and Sort By Kind only to have it STILL get screwed up. I've tried Arrange By None and Sort By Kind or Sort By Name and still it doesn't freaking work.

 

No arrangement ever sticks. Sooner or later, Mavericks decides to forget the order of the **** alphabet and arranges the files in a completely bizarre way that makes no logical sense whatsoever.

 

Has anyone else experienced this problem and does anyone know how the **** to fix it, because I'm going nuts constantly having to rearrange my files since Mavericks is apparently too stupid to do it properly.

MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.5.5)

Posted on Oct 30, 2013 2:35 AM

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  • by posburn,

    posburn posburn Nov 1, 2013 3:35 AM in response to DP812
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    Nov 1, 2013 3:35 AM in response to DP812

    Just to let you know you're not alone - I am also seeing this exact problem and it's driving me crazy! Hopefully 10.9.1 will come along soon and fix this.

  • by Scott Thiessen,

    Scott Thiessen Scott Thiessen Nov 4, 2013 11:15 AM in response to DP812
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    Nov 4, 2013 11:15 AM in response to DP812

    I've had this issue ever since they introduce "Arrange by...", as for whatever reason, there's never been a way to save this view option for all folders. Mavericks has made it much worse, as it continually forgets this preference for folders I've already set to Arrange by Kind, Sort by Name.

     

    It's such a clear, obvious way to arrange and sort files, I can't understand why it's not the default and why it is impossible to make this view stick.

     

    In the meantime, I have found this strategy to be the quickest way to get a folder back to this view:

    1. Click on the Screen Shot 2013-11-04 at 11.09.05 AM.png button, and select Arrange by Name
    2. Click on the Screen Shot 2013-11-04 at 11.09.05 AM.png button, and re-select Arrange by Kind
    3. Option + Click on the Screen Shot 2013-11-04 at 11.09.05 AM.png button, and select Sort by Kind
    4. Option + Click on the Screen Shot 2013-11-04 at 11.09.05 AM.png button, and re-select Sort by Name

     

     

    This resets the view for me to Arrange by Kind, Sort by Name.

     

    But, yes, in Mavericks, it's only a matter of time before it re-sorts itself into some ungodly random arrangement. It's infuriorating to have to do over and over again, so I hope that this is addressed soon.

  • by RickyGT24,

    RickyGT24 RickyGT24 Nov 6, 2013 6:36 PM in response to DP812
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    Nov 6, 2013 6:36 PM in response to DP812

    Same exact thing happens to me . I always have to re-arrange my folders/files by clicking on the sort-arrow. It's getting very frustrating becuase I like to keep my computer organized!!!! It's not a big deal but its very anoying. Hopefully Apple fixes this issue in the next update.

  • by jsbreglio1,

    jsbreglio1 jsbreglio1 Nov 18, 2013 6:11 AM in response to DP812
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    Nov 18, 2013 6:11 AM in response to DP812

    YES! Mavericks is a psychotic mess in Finder. Nearly EVERY time I open it, files and folders are in a different order. I've literally watched them rearrange before my eyes! Sometimes it's alphabetical, sometimes reverse alphabetical and then back to alphabetical. I've done NOTHING.

     

    I spend a quarter of my day just navigating folders for work. This has doubled that time!

     

    I have/want them ordered by kind. Folder lists (subfolders) used to be at top, now it's (mostly) Word docs, then folders, then PDF docs.

     

    Anyone know of a way to at least get the folders back above other documents? (Seriously, this is over two thousand years of standard hierarchical organization prototocol of categories and sub categories and Apple thought they had a better way...)

     

    so far, HATING maverics!!

  • by dklemans,

    dklemans dklemans Nov 19, 2013 2:06 PM in response to DP812
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    Nov 19, 2013 2:06 PM in response to DP812

    Same problem here. I reported it to apple on their feedback page and would encourage others to do the same.

  • by yakabuda,

    yakabuda yakabuda Dec 10, 2013 8:36 PM in response to DP812
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    Dec 10, 2013 8:36 PM in response to DP812

    Same problem, ever since the upgrade to Mavericks. It is beyond infuriating. Such a stupid thing to break and then not notice they broke it. Do they not even use Finder over there at Apple?

  • by yakabuda,

    yakabuda yakabuda Dec 10, 2013 8:38 PM in response to dklemans
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    Dec 10, 2013 8:38 PM in response to dklemans

    dklemans wrote:

     

    Same problem here. I reported it to apple on their feedback page and would encourage others to do the same.

     

    Worth a try. Here's the link.

  • by playerzero,

    playerzero playerzero Dec 14, 2013 3:05 PM in response to DP812
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    Dec 14, 2013 3:05 PM in response to DP812

    Unfortunately the answer seems to be "give up on the finder."

     

    TotalFinder fixes all these problems and many more: http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/

     

    Disclaimers: not free, patently absurd that a third-party app would be necessary for viewing files in a filesystem.

  • by posburn,

    posburn posburn Dec 14, 2013 3:22 PM in response to playerzero
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    Dec 14, 2013 3:22 PM in response to playerzero

    Hmmm. I've been using TotalFinder with Mavericks (and long before) and it defintiely does NOT fix the bizarre, random way that Mavericks will re-arrange files and folders on my machine.

     

    Though I must say that it is otherwise a wonderful product! I can't blame the developers for not being able to fix Mavericks' weirdness.

  • by thebigjoe,

    thebigjoe thebigjoe Dec 15, 2013 8:29 AM in response to DP812
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    Dec 15, 2013 8:29 AM in response to DP812

    I have been doing my nut over this one as well and it has been driving me insane; but i may have found an answer!

     

    instead of using arrange by kind, I have changed the view settings to "arrange by application" and then "sort by name" and it seems to have stabilised and stopped randomly switching everything around of its own accord and returned to how "arrange by kind" used to look. so far, so good.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Dec 15, 2013 12:00 PM in response to DP812
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    Dec 15, 2013 12:00 PM in response to DP812

    Send Apple feedback. They won't answer, but at least will know there is a problem. If enough people send feedback, it may get the problem solved sooner.


    Feedback

  • by DP812,

    DP812 DP812 Dec 15, 2013 3:27 PM in response to Eric Root
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    Dec 15, 2013 3:27 PM in response to Eric Root

    Eric Root wrote:

     

    Send Apple feedback. They won't answer, but at least will know there is a problem. If enough people send feedback, it may get the problem solved sooner.


    Feedback

     

    I sent them feedback twice so far since this problem began, but since Apple is notoriously unhelpful unless you're paying for AppleCare, I hoped someone on these forums might have found a solution.

  • by palmer108,

    palmer108 palmer108 Jan 10, 2014 9:11 PM in response to Scott Thiessen
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    Jan 10, 2014 9:11 PM in response to Scott Thiessen

    I've had this issue ever since they introduce "Arrange by...",


    Same here. Every since the "arrange by" option was introduced. I don't get how this is allowed to slip for so long on such a fundamental interface of OSX.

     

    The "arrange by kind" option also used to have the problem that the 'kind' headers (i.e. 'Folders', 'Images', 'PDF Documents', 'Other', etc.) used to sometimes disappear and sometimes turn into folder icons that couldn't be selected. At least this appears to have stabilized in Mavericks.

     

    You would think the Finder could get the alphabet straight. How difficult could it be to sort this out? (pardon the pun).

  • by shahar h,

    shahar h shahar h Feb 2, 2014 4:56 AM in response to Scott Thiessen
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    Feb 2, 2014 4:56 AM in response to Scott Thiessen

    Unfortunately I didn't find a solution, but cmd+j is an easier way to access these options.

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