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Q: MBA mid-2013 wakes from sleep every minute on Mavericks

After upgrading to Mavericks my MBA mid-2013 constantly wakes up from sleep every minute during the night draining battery to 0%.I did syslog | grep -i "Wake reason" and the result is "?" for each logged wake event. There are few more reports on this all over the Internet with slight variations. This happens

while on battery and I did try SMC reset. Any tips? It's gettig quite frustrating. Screenshot 2013-10-30 13.58.55.png

MacBook Air, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 30, 2013 6:03 AM

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  • by VAXMaster95,

    VAXMaster95 VAXMaster95 Nov 17, 2013 6:07 AM in response to dr-grim
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    Nov 17, 2013 6:07 AM in response to dr-grim

    This attempt to fix >> sudo pmset -a ttyskeepawake 0 << had no effect for me.  I woke up to another fully drained battery.

     

    It is obvious that Apple has to fix this from their side and that there are no easy configuration changes us users can do to fix it.

     

    All we can do is complain heavily and loudly to Apple ..... to hurry-up the patch.

  • by dr-grim,

    dr-grim dr-grim Nov 17, 2013 7:32 AM in response to VAXMaster95
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    Nov 17, 2013 7:32 AM in response to VAXMaster95

    (strangled cry of anguish in the background...)

     

    Guess what, 24 hours later, and... yes, my MBA slept properly... twice... and then decided it just loved waking up every 1 minute. Argh!

     

    Still got a call open with Apple. I'll keep chasing and report back if/when I get anything that lasts longer than a few hours

     

    This is getting quite ridiculous...

  • by jasonlancaster,

    jasonlancaster jasonlancaster Nov 17, 2013 11:13 AM in response to dr-grim
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    Nov 17, 2013 11:13 AM in response to dr-grim

    Same problem here. 2013 MBA i7 8gb RAM. Patiently awaiting some sort of fix/update to osx that might fix this.

  • by alessio85,

    alessio85 alessio85 Nov 18, 2013 3:54 AM in response to rcolonescu
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    Nov 18, 2013 3:54 AM in response to rcolonescu

    Hi,

    I have the same issue.

    Have you try to switch off the wifi before make the mac sleep?

     

    It seems that without a wi-fi connection available there are no waking up.

     

    It is not a fix but it may help to understand the reason of such a strange behavior.

  • by fullfresfram,

    fullfresfram fullfresfram Nov 18, 2013 5:10 AM in response to alessio85
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    Nov 18, 2013 5:10 AM in response to alessio85

    Thanks, will give that a shot, Recently, I have just turned the machine off at night. The problem only exists when I put the MBA in sleep mode when I'm done using it for the day.

  • by jasonlancaster,

    jasonlancaster jasonlancaster Nov 18, 2013 7:07 PM in response to alessio85
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    Nov 18, 2013 7:07 PM in response to alessio85

    Turning off the wifi does not suppress the syslog messages or save my battery life. Left the laptop on while at work instead of shutting down and came back to 0%.

  • by dr-grim,

    dr-grim dr-grim Nov 19, 2013 12:29 PM in response to jasonlancaster
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    Nov 19, 2013 12:29 PM in response to jasonlancaster

    ...back again...

     

    Latest news on trying to fix this: I realised I couldn't boot into safe mode (odd, it kept returning me to the login screen) - realised this could be a problem with an encrypted drive (i.e. FileVault).

     

    So... I reset FireVault to decrypt the drive - succeeded, rebooted, all working. Tried safe mode... and... the no-entry sign was eventually displayed. Rebooted outside of safe mode - still no-entry sign! I tried recovery mode, and noticed that something screwed up & marked the unencrypted volume as encrypted... boom.

     

    Recovery mode didn't help - disk utility couldn't unlock, so eventually had to resort to the terminal and use the discutil command line (helped via https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3348646). Finally nuked the disc completely, full re-install of Mavericks and then recovered via TimeMachine.

     

    And... the 1 second wake-up is still there!!!

     

    But disappears in safe mode (after minimal testing) - so maybe something is causing this due to installed software... anyone else got the problem in safe mode? I'll look around and see if I can find the culprit in the meantime...

  • by jasonlancaster,

    jasonlancaster jasonlancaster Nov 19, 2013 12:52 PM in response to dr-grim
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    Nov 19, 2013 12:52 PM in response to dr-grim

    dr-grim: I guess we could start listing applications we're running that we think *might* have some sort of impact:

    1. BetterSnapTool
    2. Avast antivirus
    3. Total Finder
    4. Fantastical
    5. Airmail Beta
  • by dr-grim,

    dr-grim dr-grim Nov 19, 2013 1:19 PM in response to jasonlancaster
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    Nov 19, 2013 1:19 PM in response to jasonlancaster

    Hi, sure - good idea, see if we can find some simularities.

     

    I've got:

    1. GoogleDrive
    2. DropBox
    3. Time machine
    4. Comodo anti-virus (was running Avast, but same behaviour)
    5. Mail
    6. Safari
    7. Terminal
    8. Finder...

     

    Everything else is not in use when I leave the machine to sleep... as far as I can tell... and I've dutifully applied any update c/o Apple...

     

    Alas it looks like we're not running anything in common (argh).

  • by rcolonescu,

    rcolonescu rcolonescu Nov 19, 2013 1:49 PM in response to dr-grim
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    Nov 19, 2013 1:49 PM in response to dr-grim

    Good idea. Here's my list:

     

    1. Google Drive

    2. Dropbox

    3. Avast

    4. Chrome

    5. Calendar

    6. Finder..sometimes Path Finder

    7. Maybe an Office app or two..

  • by jasonlancaster,

    jasonlancaster jasonlancaster Nov 19, 2013 1:55 PM in response to dr-grim
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    Nov 19, 2013 1:55 PM in response to dr-grim

    Out of those apps I'm also running dropbox. Not that I think it has any priority or capability to run when the computer is sleeping...

  • by xes13,

    xes13 xes13 Nov 21, 2013 1:43 PM in response to rcolonescu
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    Nov 21, 2013 1:43 PM in response to rcolonescu

    I can confirm this issue for both haswell rMBP late 2013 (i5, 8gb, 256hdd) and haswell MBAir 2013 (i5, 8gb, 256hdd) both running mavericks. Software I use and usually don't close when I'm done working:

     

    1. Google Drive

    2. Avast free antivirus

    3. Time Machine

    4. Google Chrome

    5. Mozilla Tunderbird

    6. Terminal

    7. Finder ...

     

    I also use bluetooth mouse (magic mouse)  - turning off bluetooth for the night did not help ... neither did turning off wireless.

     

    whatever I have tried i could not get it to sleep properly ... after standbydelay is done (time in seconds), both machines start to wake every minute and drain the battery ... both machines are running fresh installation of mavericks and all current updates. It is clearly a mavericks issue and Apple should fix this as soon as possible there are more and more posts on different forums about this issue and there is no fix for it. The best that could be done for now is to set standbydelay to some insane value (1 week = 604800 seconds) with pmset;

     

    sudo pmset -b standbydelay 604800

     

    this will delay hibernate for a week and prevent 1minute wakeups ... still drains more battery than it should but it will not discharge your battery completely overnight. Just a few percents.

     

    So ... we should all start annoying Apple about this until they acknowledge the problem and promise us they will fix it. It is a mavericks issue! Needs to be fixed! Nothing is wrong with hardware in our macbooks.

     

     

    XES

  • by fskirschbaum,

    fskirschbaum fskirschbaum Nov 22, 2013 5:36 AM in response to rcolonescu
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    Nov 22, 2013 5:36 AM in response to rcolonescu

    I can say that I'm experiencing the exact same issue with my rMBP late 2013 (i5-2.6, 8gb, 512hdd).

     

    I am running Alfred2, f.lux, Bettersnaptool and close pretty much everything else.

     

    I'm hopeful that there's an official fix from Apple soon. This is my first venture back into the MacOS X ecosystem since a PowerBook G4 on 10.2 many years ago... I love everything about my Mac but I really want it to work right.

  • by rcolonescu,

    rcolonescu rcolonescu Nov 22, 2013 6:04 AM in response to fskirschbaum
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    Nov 22, 2013 6:04 AM in response to fskirschbaum

    What do you guys think is best way to contact Apple and let them know about this?

     

    It would be more effective if we all target the same department.

  • by fskirschbaum,

    fskirschbaum fskirschbaum Nov 22, 2013 6:19 AM in response to rcolonescu
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    Nov 22, 2013 6:19 AM in response to rcolonescu

    I simply opened a case wtih them through support and chatted with a rep who had me delete the SystemConfiguration folder from /Library/Preferences and then advised me to see if the issue reoccurs. Now I have a case number to reference. I'm not sure if that is the best method but it's the method that works for me today.

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