Can't change fonts in footnotes globally

In the new Pages it appears that you can no longer select all the footnotes in a document and change the size of the font of them all at once, as we could do in Pages 09. Is there any solution or work-around?

Mac mini, OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Oct 30, 2013 11:05 PM

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Dec 1, 2017 11:12 AM in response to latavarius

I have tried this in Pages 6.3.1 and I cannot get it to do what I need it do - which is to allow me to universally change the font and/or size of footnotes all at once, and the document I am working on has 100+ footnotes so going through making changes to footnotes individually is absolutely not an acceptable solution.


What possible good reason could there be to deny users the ability to simply 'select all' in the footnotes and make desired changes?


I have frustratingly persevered with Pages for years. I thought Pages 09 was fantastic, and I recommended it to anyone who would listen; then this iOS styled version arrived and as much as I want to avoid using anything Microsoft, I cannot recommend it to anyone since the 09 user interface was ditched - and ditched for no good reason that I can see.


If there is a select all then I would appreciate being told how to access it. Thanks.

Dec 1, 2017 11:42 AM in response to DamianWarburton

I agree with what you say about Pages '09 but this still works in Pages 5 or 6. And beggars the question why are you not still using Pages '09?


Footnote text is automatically formatted to Footnote style unless you have done something else. Are you using EndNote or something similar?


All you need to do is select all the text )so there is no confusion) of one footnote, change the styling to what you want:


select the changed Footnote text > Style List > Footnote > click (>) to the right > Redefine from Selection


I don't know what else you could have tried.


Peter

Dec 1, 2017 12:13 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

I wish I had continued with 09 but when Pages 5 was realeased, foolishly I assumed it would be better and updated the programme. That much was reversible (and still is, as I have Pages 09 on disc) but the problem is that I simultaneously updated the iOS App which deleted the previous purple one in favour of this orange monstrosity - and that I was unable to reverse, lumbering me with the latest Pages on my Mac too if, as is completely necessary, I need cross platform integration, which, I assume like most people, I do.


I know plenty of Mac enthusiasts who refuse to touch Pages, sticking to Word. From the dearthe and difficulty of features in Pages 6 from what remember if 09 I am beginning to wonder if they are right!


I can use the method at the start of this thread to change footnotes gluing forward but I cannot make it work to reformat existing footnotes, which a select all would allow in about three clicks.


Apple, if you reads these threads - is there any defensible reason to disallow a ‘select all’ for footnotes?!

Dec 1, 2017 12:33 PM in response to DamianWarburton

If you did not delete Pages '09 it is still in the iWork '09 folder inside your Applications folder.


I run both Pages '09 and the latest Pages (6.3.1) on the same Systems.


Pages '09 is the far better and more efficient App.


Pages 6 is so I can troubleshoot these posts and because I actually enjoy its boolean drawing features. Virtually the only good thing about the later version. Linked Tables and the somewhat wonky Object Styles being the other.


Pages for iOS, like most of Apple's recent efforts, is such a handicapped load of cr@p I can find no use for it other than as a very occasional .pages file viewer and even for that .pdfs are vastly better.


Cross platform integration!? Really? Between what? Certainly not Macs and PCs, nor Macs of different vintages and OSes, nor iDevices which can not be upgraded to the latest iOS. Apple's ludicrously mislabelled "thinking" on the subject has me diagnosing Early Onset Corporate Dementia (EOCD).


What is "gluing forward" and you have still not explained what is preventing you updating the Footnote style.


Peter

Nov 29, 2013 9:45 AM in response to Gary437

To change the footnotes globally:

1. Select a footnote individually (a gray box should appear around the note.)

2. In the Inspector, the window to the right of your document (if you don't see it: View>Inspector.Format), you should see menus options at the top for Text and one for Footnotes. Select the Text Inspector.

3. Select all of the text in the individual footnote you are going to modify and make the changes to the text of the footnote to reflect the new style you are trying to achieve (for instance, change the font to Times New Roman).

3. In the Inspector, in the Paragraph Style window (it appears just below the Text and Footnotes options discussed in Step 2), you should see the word: Footnote. Click on Footnote. This should open a dropdown menu. Scroll down to Footnote and click on the gray arrow to the far right of the row in the dropdown menu. Select: Update.


All of your footnotes should now reflect the new style that you were trying to achieve.


You can also modify a single footnote as described above. Deselect the footnote (e.g., select another footnote or the body text) and then reselect the footnote you previously modified. In the Paragraph Style window, there should be a blue button to the far right of the word: Footnote. Click Update to update the footnote style of your document.


Hope that helps.


Best,

Latavarius

Dec 22, 2013 12:00 PM in response to latavarius

Thanks, this helped me with a similar problem that occurred when Pages imported a Word document with footnotes and destroyed all the footnote styles. First, I hope Apple can fix that. Second, when I apply this method, it does indeed change the footnote text to what I want -- but it ALSO changes the little footnote number from superscript to Default, like the text itself. What our publisher insists on is footnotes that have a superscript number and default footnote text. How can we make that happen, so that the footnote numbers (both in the footnote text and in the main text) are superscripted, but the text following them isn't? Thanks for helping.

Jan 13, 2014 7:19 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

I think this will work if the footnote text is already in the footnote style. It might work for the OP here, but it doesn't work for me because when Pages imported the MS Word or Scrivener file, it converted all the footnote styles to Body text. So I'm looking for a way to change all those globally, in one move, to the proper footnote style. Otherwise, I have to go back and change hundreds of footnotes individually. Any ideas?

Jan 13, 2014 11:46 PM in response to Brett Campbell

The point is how many sets of footnotes there are. You don't have to apply the style to each footnote individually.


What choice have you got anyway? In the time you have spent denying and ignoring what needs doing, you could have applied the style and be done with it.


Which beggars the question: Why are you using Pages 5? Is it a good use of your time dealing with the endless bugs and lack of features?


Peter

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