Q: Mac slow after installing Maverick

Robgee99 wrote:

 

I tend to agree with you.  I have read thousands of solutions to the problem and frankly, I dont have enough time in my life to try them all.  The bottom line is that no-one from Apple is prepaed to admit that Mavericks is a dog.

 

What changed, you said it was going 'like the wind a month' ago?

Robgee99 wrote:

 

…Clone my drive accross using an external casing.

Now the thing goes like the wind.  Better than new and pre-Mavericks.

Care to post an EtreCheck report? We are here to try to help, it sounds like you might have cloned over all the data from the old disk which may have also cloned your old problems to the new disk?

We keep suggesting you post EtreCheck reports because we have seen it help with other users issues, you can just keep complaining if you think it helps but we need specific info to be able help you in any way.

I have a late 2007 imac 2.8ghz with 6gb RAM.  I had the same slow response issue.  I took it in to the store today ad the hardware checked out.  The technician suggested I move big folders (I had a 120gb folder) off the desktop and into a subfolder.  I think he said that everything on the desktop gets read when the imac boots up. 

He also suggested that I turn the FileVault OFF.  I can't remember when I turned this on.  Well it took a few hours for the FileVault to decrypt my hard drive.  However, the iMac is running super fast again.  So maybe check under System Preferences, Security and Privacy, FileVault and see if it's enabled.  If it is, for an older machine, consider disabling it if this makes sense for your situation.  For those of you with newer machines and SSD drives, this should not be an issue.

Hope this helps some of you with older machines.

It is a comparative statement mate.

Bottom line is, regardless of all the excuses made on behalf of Apple, they stuffed up and wont admit it.

If they stuffed up then what not all of the many many millions of Mavericks users be seeing this? There certainly seems to be a severe lack of evidence on that. My five Macs are running faultlessly on Mavericks. You need to look closer to home and so some serious troubleshooting.

Good luck with that

Pete

I have an early 2009 MBP (15" 2GHz i7 CPU) and upgraded to 8 GB RAM. It made a world of difference. After learning how easy it was to update the RAM I am planning on replacing the hard drive with a SSD for even better performance. I hope this works for others with this problem. Depending on your machine, this is probably the best first place to start after trying all the software solutions (clearing caches, wiping preferences, reinstalling the OS and adding 3rd party apps one at a time).

FWIW, I just saw a speed up after turning off "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" when on the power adapter.

1. Go to System Preferences -> Energy Saver

2. Select "Power Adapter" tab

3. Uncheck "Put hard disks to sleep when possible" checkbox

Good luck!

I made my login faster after I noticed that there was an evil Google Software update running over and over again at login.

6/17/14 8:06:03.954 PM GoogleSoftwareUpdateDaemon[23095]: -[KSUpdateCheckAction(KSServerUpdateRequestDelegate) serverRequest:fetchedWithResponse:] KSUpdateCheckAction received KSServerUpdateResponse: <KSOmahaServerUpdateResponse:0x25e320

          server=<KSOmahaServer:0x4477a0>

          url="https://tools.google.com/service/update2"

          status=200

          tickets=2

          activeTickets=0

          rollCallTickets=0

          data=

                    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>

                    <gupdate xmlns="http://www.google.com/update2/response" protocol="2.0" server="prod">

                        <daystart elapsed_days="2724" elapsed_seconds="72363"></daystart>

                        <app appid="com.google.talkplugin" status="ok">

                            <updatecheck status="noupdate"></updatecheck>

                        </app>

                        <app appid="com.google.Keystone" status="ok">

                            <updatecheck status="noupdate"></updatecheck>

                        </app>

                    </gupdate>

>

6/17/14 8:06:03.960 PM GoogleSoftwareUpdateDaemon[23095]: -[KSUpdateCheckAction(PrivateMethods) finishAction] KSUpdateCheckAction found updates: {( )}

6/17/14 8:06:04.179 PM GoogleSoftwareUpdateDaemon[23095]: -[KSPrefetchAction performAction] KSPrefetchAction no updates to prefetch.

6/17/14 8:06:04.181 PM GoogleSoftwareUpdateDaemon[23095]: -[KSMultiUpdateAction performAction] KSSilentUpdateAction had no updates to apply.

6/17/14 8:06:04.183 PM GoogleSoftwareUpdateDaemon[23095]: -[KSMultiUpdateAction performAction] KSPromptAction had no updates to apply.

6/17/14 8:06:04.186 PM GoogleSoftwareUpdateDaemon[23095]: -[KSUpdateEngine(PrivateMethods) updateFinish] KSUpdateEngine update processing complete.

6/17/14 8:06:10.946 PM GoogleSoftwareUpdateDaemon[23095]: -[KeystoneDaemon logServiceState] GoogleSoftwareUpdate daemon (1.1.0.3659) vending:

          com.google.Keystone.Daemon.UpdateEngine: 1 connection(s)

          com.google.Keystone.Daemon.Administration: 0 connection(s)

I found this using Google

http://raamdev.com/2008/howto-remove-google-software-update-on-mac-os-x/

Basicallly just a Terminal Command to delete all the software.  Still testing to see if that makes login speed better.

I know that a lot of folks have performed this surgery over the past couple of years. Some are just concerned about allowing Google (or any app) to be able to update itself without any type of notification or permission while others felt the process slowed their Mac. Since I don't have a problem with either of these, I have not done so.

I would be very surprised if it makes login any faster as it should not involve any of that software. It might speed up the boot process by a microsecond or so while the LaunchAgent/LaunchDaemon are loaded. It looks like it will run as soon as it has Internet connectivity and checks to see if any updates are available every ~59 minutes.

Time for me to pile on to the discussion:

I spent almost 2 days doing the following and there is a noticeable improvement in performance.

1) Back up my MacBook Pro to a Time Machine volume

2) Boot Mac in recovery mode

3) Use Disk Utilities in Recovery Mode to erase the main volume

4) Reboot and let the recovery process begin

5) Select option to install OS on the erased volume (in this case, Mountain Lion  :-(   )

6) After OS install, go to the App Store and re-install Mavericks from there - also reboot and get the updates ....

7) Go to Applications > Utilities > Migration Assistant and restore your Data / Documents, etc.

Doing this clean OS install has helped ... it's still a bit slow on the performance side because it IS Mavericks however I can actually live with it ... Now I flee more comfortable adding RAM to my system to increase performance ... but adding RAM without doing a fresh OS install is a waste of time ...

Hope this helps ...

I followed the recommendation from Linc Davies and after I posted the code in terminal, I got the new window opening and it contained the following text:

Jun 25 18:45:17 localhost kernel[0] <Debug>: Previous Shutdown Cause: -60

Jun 25 18:46:09 MacBook-Pro-4 kernel[0] <Debug>: nspace-handler-unblock: did not find token 139

Jun 27 15:49:32 Pro-4 kernel[0] <Debug>: nspace-handler-unblock: did not find token 217

Not sure what this means... I have repaired the hard drive in disc utilities and repaired the permissions....

Machine is not as bad as some folks have mentioned here but it is a little slower than before Mavericks...

Thanks for any help,

Jonathan

Jonathanm1 wrote:

 

Jun 25 18:45:17 localhost kernel[0] <Debug>: Previous Shutdown Cause: -60

Something wrong with your hard drive. See What is shutdown cause -60?

Thanks - I've got a little job over the weekend then...:-)

I followed your steps in launching the "terminal". The following message came up in the text box:

Jul 22 14:28:18 A kernel[0] <Debug>: Previous Shutdown Cause: -60

What do you recommend I do next? my computer is so slow since installing Maverick!

FYI, Linc does not often follow old long discussions such as this, so he probably won't be back to respond.

You can read my response to the last person that had a "-60" cause and if that doesn't help you need to start a new discussion and describe your problem in much greater detail than you have here. That way you will get current users to offer additional help much faster than you will here.

As I told Jonathanm1 above, "Something wrong with your hard drive. See What is shutdown cause -60?"

People I need some help.

Recently I installed Mavericks on my macbook pro mid 2012. I did that after changing the hard drive to SSD Kingston 240gb. I have 8gb ram. Before changing the hard drive i had mavericks on a regular HDD and it was quite alright. Then my hard drive got faulty and the laptop was really slow. So i changed to SSD. I installed mavericks from a bootable usb with os x and it turned out that the system is really, and i mean reaaally slow. I did most of the advices from this forum (repairing the disc perimissions, disk repair, System Management Controller reset, checked the system monitor and the CPU and other things are alright (it shows that os x does not take all the available RAM), i did the syslog command from Linc Davis, and checked the mac with etrecheck. And nothing worked. So i went to recovery mode, erased the disk, created a new partition and reinstalled the system from recovery mode. It didn't help either. It's a bit better, but it's still so slow that it's unusable.

There is something peculiar as it shows in the disk utility that SMART status of the SSD hard drive is not supported. However, the hard drive is brand new, I did a new parition, there are no programs installed apart from the ones that come with the os x. I am sorry that the message is so long, but i didn't know what might be useful to resolve this,

Here is etrecheck:

EtreCheck version: 1.9.12 (48)

Hardware Information:

  MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2012) (Verified)

  MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro9,2

  1 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 2 cores

  8 GB RAM

Video Information:

  Intel HD Graphics 4000 - VRAM: (null)

  Color LCD 1280 x 800

System Software:

  OS X 10.9.4 (13E28) - Uptime: 0 days 1:10:2

Disk Information:

  KINGSTON SV300S37A240G disk0 : (240,06 GB)

  EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209,7 MB

  Marcel's HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 239,2 GB (227,99 GB free)

  Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB

  OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5970H 

USB Information:

  Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

  Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

  Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

  Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

  Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

Thunderbolt Information:

  Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Gatekeeper:

  Mac App Store and identified developers

User Login Items:

  None

Internet Plug-ins:

  Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

  QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

Audio Plug-ins:

  BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9

  AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9

  AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9

  iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9

Time Machine:

  Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU:

      3% WindowServer

      0% Safari

      0% imagent

Top Processes by Memory:

  123 MB Safari

  98 MB softwareupdated

  98 MB com.apple.IconServicesAgent

  49 MB Finder

  41 MB mds_stores

Virtual Memory Information:

  5.96 GB Free RAM

  1.10 GB Active RAM

  82 MB Inactive RAM

  879 MB Wired RAM

  278 MB Page-ins

  0 B Page-outs

Last 50 logs from console:

24.07.2014 16:34:22,813 AirPlayUIAgent[256]: 2014-07-24 07:34:22.813161 AM [AirPlayUIAgent] Changed PIN pairing: no

24.07.2014 16:34:24,000 kernel[0]: **** [IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport][SuspendDevice] -- Suspend -- suspendDeviceCallResult = 0x0000 (kIOReturnSuccess) -- 0xb400 ****

24.07.2014 16:34:24,771 locationd[60]: NETWORK: requery, 0, 0, 0, 5, items, fQueryRetries, 0, fLastRetryTimestamp, 427899480.2

24.07.2014 16:34:28,000 kernel[0]: pci pause: SDXC

24.07.2014 16:34:55,883 Safari[159]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:34:56,130 OpenSpell[535]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:34:56,131 OpenSpell[535]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:34:56,131 OpenSpell[535]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:34:56,132 OpenSpell[535]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:34:56,132 OpenSpell[535]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:34:56,302 com.apple.time[153]: Interval maximum value is 946100000 seconds (specified value: 9223372036854775807).

24.07.2014 16:36:35,876 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_timeout: UI updates were forcibly disabled by application "Terminal" for over 1.00 seconds. Server has re-enabled them.

24.07.2014 16:36:49,876 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_likely_unbalanced: UI updates still disabled by application "Terminal" after 15.00 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds). Likely an unbalanced disableUpdate call.

24.07.2014 16:37:07,016 mDNSResponder[55]: 102: Could not write data to clientPID[532](com.apple.WebKi)  because of error - aborting connection

24.07.2014 16:37:07,016 mDNSResponder[55]: 102: DNSServiceGetAddrInfo      v4v6 sgi4.iplsc.com. PID[532](com.apple.WebKi)

24.07.2014 16:37:39,252 WindowServer[81]: common_reenable_update: UI updates were finally reenabled by application "Terminal" after 64.37 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds)

24.07.2014 16:37:39,253 Terminal[547]: void CGSUpdateManager::log() const: conn 0x1250f: spurious update.

24.07.2014 16:37:39,345 login[553]: USER_PROCESS: 553 ttys000

24.07.2014 16:37:39,000 kernel[0]: Sandbox: xpcd(170) deny ipc-posix-shm-read-data /tmp/com.apple.csseed.37

24.07.2014 16:39:49,502 com.apple.WebKit.WebContent[532]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:39:49,523 com.apple.WebKit.Networking[186]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:39:49,526 com.apple.WebKit.Networking[186]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:39:49,527 com.apple.WebKit.Networking[186]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:39:49,601 com.apple.WebKit.Networking[186]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:41:43,369 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_likely_unbalanced: UI updates still disabled by application "Safari" after 15.00 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds). Likely an unbalanced disableUpdate call.

24.07.2014 16:42:00,415 WindowServer[81]: common_reenable_update: UI updates were finally reenabled by application "Safari" after 32.05 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds)

24.07.2014 16:42:00,431 Safari[159]: void CGSUpdateManager::log() const: conn 0xdd17: spurious update.

24.07.2014 16:42:00,461 com.apple.WebKit.WebContent[532]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:46:55,904 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_timeout: UI updates were forcibly disabled by application "Preferencje systemowe" for over 1.00 seconds. Server has re-enabled them.

24.07.2014 16:47:09,905 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_likely_unbalanced: UI updates still disabled by application "Preferencje systemowe" after 15.00 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds). Likely an unbalanced disableUpdate call.

24.07.2014 16:47:26,953 WindowServer[81]: common_reenable_update: UI updates were finally reenabled by application "Preferencje systemowe" after 32.05 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds)

24.07.2014 16:47:26,954 System Preferences[573]: void CGSUpdateManager::log() const: conn 0x15a07: spurious update.

24.07.2014 16:48:00,477 com.apple.WebKit.WebContent[532]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 16:49:36,411 com.apple.launchd[1]: (com.apple.qtkitserver[561]) Exit timeout elapsed (20 seconds). Killing

24.07.2014 16:51:19,047 OpenSpell[583]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:51:19,047 OpenSpell[583]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:51:19,048 OpenSpell[583]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:51:19,048 OpenSpell[583]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:51:19,048 OpenSpell[583]: *** -[NSMachPort handlePortMessage:]: dropping incoming DO message because the connection is invalid

24.07.2014 16:51:54,380 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_timeout: UI updates were forcibly disabled by application "Safari" for over 1.00 seconds. Server has re-enabled them.

24.07.2014 16:52:08,382 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_likely_unbalanced: UI updates still disabled by application "Safari" after 15.00 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds). Likely an unbalanced disableUpdate call.

24.07.2014 16:52:25,002 WindowServer[81]: common_reenable_update: UI updates were finally reenabled by application "Safari" after 31.62 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds)

24.07.2014 16:52:25,004 Safari[159]: void CGSUpdateManager::log() const: conn 0xdd17: spurious update.

24.07.2014 17:00:35,324 Safari[159]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 17:01:07,813 Safari[159]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 17:01:40,300 Safari[159]: CFNetwork SSLHandshake failed (-9806)

24.07.2014 17:01:40,301 Safari[159]: NSURLConnection/CFURLConnection HTTP load failed (kCFStreamErrorDomainSSL, -9806)

24.07.2014 17:04:33,286 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_timeout: UI updates were forcibly disabled by application "TextEdit" for over 1.00 seconds. Server has re-enabled them.

24.07.2014 17:04:47,287 WindowServer[81]: disable_update_likely_unbalanced: UI updates still disabled by application "TextEdit" after 15.00 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds). Likely an unbalanced disableUpdate call.

24.07.2014 17:05:04,488 WindowServer[81]: common_reenable_update: UI updates were finally reenabled by application "TextEdit" after 32.20 seconds (server forcibly re-enabled them after 1.00 seconds)

24.07.2014 17:05:04,493 TextEdit[592]: void CGSUpdateManager::log() const: conn 0x15853: spurious update.

24.07.2014 17:06:30,799 sandboxd[321]: ([521]) netbiosd(521) deny file-read-metadata /private/var/empty