André Tenenbaum

Q: Server File Sharing unstable on mac and windows network on Mavericks and OSX Server 3.0

Since I've updated our mac mini server from Mountain Lion and OSX Server 2.X to Mavericks and OSX Server 3.0  we are having sharing issues with Windows (7 and 8) and OSX Mavericks users, not being able to access files on the mac mini server.

 

What I've notice is that OSX Serer 3.0 stop working and I have to restart the Mac Mini Server to make things start working again.

 

This was not happening with Mountain Lion and OSX Server 2.X.

 

On the Windows and OSX users what happen is the computers keep trying to connect to the server and are not being able to open or copy files. Again this is intermittent, and I suspect it might be a OSX Server bug.

 

Any one having the same problem or can give us and advice would be great help.

 

Thanks.

 

Andre Tenenbaum

Mac mini, OS X Server, with OSX Server 3.0

Posted on Oct 31, 2013 8:36 AM

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  • by rootdr,

    rootdr rootdr Mar 26, 2014 6:34 PM in response to Bunnyfoot
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    Mar 26, 2014 6:34 PM in response to Bunnyfoot

    Yes. 100% minty fresh clean install of Mavericks OS followed by clean install of Server. Same issues.

  • by Saturni,

    Saturni Saturni Mar 26, 2014 10:49 PM in response to André Tenenbaum
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    Mar 26, 2014 10:49 PM in response to André Tenenbaum

    Hi

    i'am facing same issues with my imac since the installation of Mavericks. A windows 8.1 Client is even freezing while copying files from the Imac smb Share.

    It feels like being in the eigthes , not having a working file sharing.

    Since this is not the first time, having smb troubles, i am considering, buying a NAS. Maybe serving better for the two worlds osx and windows.

    Cheers

    Ralph

  • by Christoph Ewering1,

    Christoph Ewering1 Christoph Ewering1 Mar 27, 2014 8:12 AM in response to Saturni
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    Mar 27, 2014 8:12 AM in response to Saturni

    Hello!

     

    Just to summerize my experiences:

    The smbd in Mavericks (and Mountain Lion) seams to has some serrious issues.

    1. Windows Clients can not connect or loose connection at random

    2. Somtimes Windows Clients can not write to a file share they wrote to a few seconds ago

    3. The same could happen with Maverick clients when they connect to each other via smb (the default protocol for Mavericks) - if you connect via afp the problem is gone

    4. Looks like Mountain Lion had this issues and Mavericks makes it worse.

    5. When this happens is unpredictable

     

    This looks like a rotten access right handling in the smbd of Mavericks.

     

    I switched on ACLs for smb service as mentioned in http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4149

    but this did not help either.

     

    BTW. Why do I have to switch on ACLs when I have a server running?

     

    Bye,

    eweri

  • by macsmb,

    macsmb macsmb Apr 2, 2014 1:00 PM in response to André Tenenbaum
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    Apr 2, 2014 1:00 PM in response to André Tenenbaum

    Many problems here with mavericks and our smb linux file server.  None of the work arounds on the net have made any difference.  We created a blog at macsmbissues.com to document and discuss issues related to mavericks and smb.

  • by koa_noise,

    koa_noise koa_noise Apr 3, 2014 7:58 AM in response to André Tenenbaum
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    Apr 3, 2014 7:58 AM in response to André Tenenbaum

    I have things between my Mac Server, Windows 7, and my Mac client working kinda although if I leave a file in Windows open too long it will still loose connection and locks the file on the server side. What I did on the Windows side is in the Registry settings shown in the attached screen shot. On the Mac side I used Connect to Server and connected using the AFP stack like so, AFP:192.168.XXX.XXX.

     

    REG SH.jpg

  • by tecitdept,

    tecitdept tecitdept Apr 3, 2014 11:38 AM in response to koa_noise
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    Apr 3, 2014 11:38 AM in response to koa_noise

    We're "downgrading" to Mountain Lion. I understand there may be a few quirks with ML but Mavericks has been a nightmare. Meanwhile, my old Snow Leopard Xserver that's sitting right next to the new Mavericks Mac Mini server continues to hum right along. I suspect it's also flipping the Mac Mini the bird.

  • by Marc Marshall,

    Marc Marshall Marc Marshall Apr 3, 2014 1:16 PM in response to tecitdept
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    Apr 3, 2014 1:16 PM in response to tecitdept

    It's interesting that some people had so much better luck with Mountain Lion.  I wonder what the difference in network or client configuration or use case is?

     

    At our office, and I know some other people had the same issue, Mountain Lion's SMB sharing was completely unusable--there were connection and permissions issues that would reliably cause Acrobat and Office to fail within a few minutes of opening a document off a network volue on some Win7 clients.  I had to resort to ripping out the SMBX daemon and installing Samba to restore functionality for my Windows users.

     

    Mavericks fixed those issues for me entirely, but introduced the routine smbd hangs that drove people nuts.  10.9.2 seems to have fixed those for us, at least in the past two weeks of testing, although there has been one unexplained complete hang of the server.

     

    Hard to argue that 10.6 wasn't bulletproof, though, where 10.7 - 10.9 have been three major versions of growing pains.

  • by krlklm,

    krlklm krlklm Apr 5, 2014 4:38 AM in response to André Tenenbaum
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    Apr 5, 2014 4:38 AM in response to André Tenenbaum

    Did anyone check out the latest Beta 13D33 of 10.9.3? I'm wondering why Apple encourages the developers to focus only on Graphics Drivers, Audio, Safari and iTunes contacts and calendar synchronization. No word about SMB. I can only hope that with 10.9.3 all the SMB and file copy -36 errors are gone.

  • by AOadmin,

    AOadmin AOadmin Apr 8, 2014 6:55 AM in response to André Tenenbaum
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    Apr 8, 2014 6:55 AM in response to André Tenenbaum

    Hi, whats serving DNS?  the mac server or windows server?  whats the FQDN?  Ive had similar issues and ive come to find that the errors were rooted in DNS

  • by rickblackdog,

    rickblackdog rickblackdog Apr 8, 2014 6:58 AM in response to AOadmin
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    Apr 8, 2014 6:58 AM in response to AOadmin

    In our case DNS is done by the server itself, usually server.fqdn.com

     

    Do you serve DNS elsewhere?

  • by dotpage,

    dotpage dotpage Apr 8, 2014 7:05 AM in response to rickblackdog
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    Apr 8, 2014 7:05 AM in response to rickblackdog

    The latest dev release of 10.9.3 seems to be behaving better as far as file sharing goes... SMB is "quiet" and playing nice...

     

    the attrib errors still show up, but the users are not complaining about speeds and errors connecting.

     

    We have Windows 7 Pro, Windows 8 and 8.1 Pro, Mac OS X from 10.6 to 10.9 for a grand total of 200 machines in our network

     

    So far so good...

  • by AOadmin,

    AOadmin AOadmin Apr 8, 2014 10:42 AM in response to rickblackdog
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    Apr 8, 2014 10:42 AM in response to rickblackdog

    my organization uses windows serving DNS for access to the gateway and then the mac server hosts DNS for the mac clients with a forwordloookup back to the windows server to get outside, the probloems I ran into was that the gateway DNS ended in ".local"  and apple Bonjour kept messing up DNS, so trafic going to clients hit a fork and packets were getting lost.  Id say make sure there arnt any host records that end in a .local on teh mac side

  • by pottre11,

    pottre11 pottre11 Apr 10, 2014 6:25 AM in response to dotpage
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    Apr 10, 2014 6:25 AM in response to dotpage

    This is encouraging.. we're on 10.9.2 and I am VERY close to installing SMBUp. We're having a world of problems from Office documents getting locked to due disconnections / read only issues etc, joining the Macs as 'Networking Accounts' isn't an option.

     

    Think I may have fire for 10.9.3 and see what happens. Fun question, but guesses on ETA?

  • by Bonyo,

    Bonyo Bonyo Apr 22, 2014 5:01 AM in response to pottre11
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    Apr 22, 2014 5:01 AM in response to pottre11

    Unfortunately I am in the same boat with you guys. Apple have made a handbrake turn and unfortunately crashed into the wall. No idea what is the issue and I gave up long time ago when I moved from 10.6 (working edition server) to 10.8. Since then I am using SMBUp with no issues.

  • by rohrbajn,

    rohrbajn rohrbajn Apr 22, 2014 5:51 AM in response to André Tenenbaum
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    Apr 22, 2014 5:51 AM in response to André Tenenbaum

    Hello,

     

    did somebody have a solution for the problems with smbx and indesign crashes under win7 cs6?

    i also have a photoshop script problem. the following script returns the wrong number of files in a folder on the server over smbx on a win7 pc. on a mac in works!

     

    is there a way to set the default posix permissions for afp and smb for create files and folders?

     

    //===============================================================

    function main() {

     

     

               var rootFolder = Folder.selectDialog("Choose root folder", "");

                

              var files = rootFolder.getFiles();

     

              alert("files:"+files.length);

                

    }

     

     

    main();

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