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  • goodolcheez Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Are we still having QC issues with the iPad series?  This is embarrassing.

     

    j182 wrote:

     

    Mini Retina experiences:

     

    On a side note, the iPad Mini is very nice otherwise, and it feels more solid than the Air for some reason.

    It's because it's smaller. So you gonna feel less hollowness. It's physics and nature.

     

    Dlanod wrote:

     

    How about Apple just make a decent device in the first place.  Being nice about the fact that your product screen is poor isn't really a solution.

    I said this before but the president of Apple should have spent billions on redsigning the iPad with high quality materials and have them assembled in Japan with high levels of QC.  The price of the iPad Air 16GB standard should then cost $3000.  I don't mind paying that much money as long as you get the quality, flawless screen and reliability.  Apple has turned money hungry bastards. They are targetting everyone so that everyone can buy their products. Well guess what, the quality will go down.  Apple needs to go back where they started.  Their mind needs to be "refreshed" or "reset".  Like a reset switch in the computer.

     

     

    It's sad to see people keep playing the same circle by returning their iPads for another one and another and another... you are running the circle. WAKE UP ALREADY!  Just return it for a refund and don't buy anymore.

     

    goodolcheez

  • goodolcheez Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Another problem is that Apple, as well as many other manufacturers, is still relying on LCD technology for screens.  LCD tech has to go, I mean seriously. This is year 2014 for God sake.  AMOLED and plasma is superior in this regard, no uniformitty issues, even whites / blacks, and superior viewing angle and speed.  What Apple needs to do is to meet with Samsung at the press conference. Get on their knees and ask for forgiveness for what bad things they have done to Samsung.  And ask Samsung to use their screen technology to build their high quality properly functioning displays for the iPads and laptop screens. Pay em big bucks... it's gonna get expensive.   Or invest billions on how to fit plasma technology to the iPad displays. It's gonna get thicker, and more power consuming, but you will get the fault-less screen quality. You want flat whites and blacks and superior viewing angles and speed? plasma is the way to go.   It's so freakin stupid the companies are still relying on "LCD" crap junk.  This has got to stop....

     

     

    goodolcheez

  • goodolcheez Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I ran into this mess when I had an iPad 2 and MBP a few years ago. I spent so much $$$ on these junk. The video playback on screen was slow because the response time is slow on LCD screens. I had light blotches too on the display.  I wanted to get out of this mess so I sold ALL of my Apple stuff.  Took the money and spent on high-end audio system.  I am happy as **** now. Sound heaven.  Do it like I did, guys, girls. It will be rewardinig.

     

     

    goodolcheez

  • Dlanod Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I would except I loath windows. Bought my wife a Chrome book to replace her old Mac book and to be honest it does all she needs.

  • j182 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Goodolcheez, it's been annoying for sure but patience is a virtue. Some of us are willing to continue to keep trying (and have good reasons for it too, though you may not understand). Check out this link:

     

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20088479-1/is-lcd-and-led-lcd-hdtv-uniformit y-a-problem/

     

    My best guess is that a better "light guide" technology/usage is what's needed to fix these issues. I don't think LCD technology itself has anything to do with non-uniformity, nor do I think Samsung has the cure - I've read forums where people are complaining about the exact same issues with Samsung devices. I read a press release regarding improvements in light guides from 3M (I think), but who knows what effect that will have on iPads in the  near future.

  • alankyl Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I got two Samsung Galaxy with uneven yellow tint screen and returned to the store. Samsung do nothing better than Apple.

  • KeyesRM Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Plasmas are not the next big thing... Plasma and LCD technologies competed in television when HD first started becoming mainstream and LCD won out. It's thinner, lighter, more durable, and most importantly, no burn in. Can you imagine the burn in that a plasma screen would have on a tablet or phone? It would be horrendous. The status bar would be forever present when you watched movies. OLED is promising, but it isn't as power efficient. On black screens, it doesn't consume much power but on white screens it consumes like 20% more power, and ios7 is very brightly themed. Besides, I will never own an OLED screen until they start using proper RGB subpixel arrangement, not the stupid RGBG that combines a sub pixel between pixels. It produces that stupid screen door mesh effect on all of the samsung devices you see today. Besides, I don't think they've gotten OLED pixel density up to the level of apples retina screens, but I could be wrong about that. They definitely haven't with proper sub pixels.

  • goodolcheez Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    KeyesRM wrote:

     

    Plasmas are not the next big thing... Plasma and LCD technologies competed in television when HD first started becoming mainstream and LCD won out. It's thinner, lighter, more durable, and most importantly, no burn in. Can you imagine the burn in that a plasma screen would have on a tablet or phone? It would be horrendous. The status bar would be forever present when you watched movies. OLED is promising, but it isn't as power efficient. On black screens, it doesn't consume much power but on white screens it consumes like 20% more power, and ios7 is very brightly themed. Besides, I will never own an OLED screen until they start using proper RGB subpixel arrangement, not the stupid RGBG that combines a sub pixel between pixels. It produces that stupid screen door mesh effect on all of the samsung devices you see today. Besides, I don't think they've gotten OLED pixel density up to the level of apples retina screens, but I could be wrong about that. They definitely haven't with proper sub pixels.

    Plasmas are still the next big thing even though its technology started in the ancient time. It was a success. That's why they are still making plasma TV's. There are reasons why this is continuing. First, it has consistent black and whites across the screen. There are no book spines nor any kind of light leakages that Apple's LCD devices have. Second, viewing angle is still superior, compared to most of LCD displays. Retina may come close, but still get spanked in this regard.  More importantly, it's speed. Fast as ****. No stuttering no blurriness in the fast motion. It's authentic, vibrant, crisp, without any delays. Plasmas don't suffer from "accumulating" dead / failing pixels over time. What you get from the beginning is what you get till the entire display dies on you either from power supply failure or damage from lightning.  The only disadvantage is the larger power consumption and heavier weight.  Image burn-in isn't a problem at all. I have owned plasma TV for nearly 10 years. If you leave a deep image burn-in parts of screen they all eventually go away after a few months or so of use.  You can adjust the iPad's main menu screen to lower brightness or change the background.  Once they perfect the plasma technology and apply on portable devices it will be the winner.  Same for the SuperAMOLED or the like, or any improved version of that technology.

     

    LCD is the ancient tech device that should have been ditched a decade ago.  LCD is the one that has uneven white issues and tints. Pixels fail after some use of the device. It collects more dead pixels the longer you use them. It's famous for dirty uneven whites.  I face this problem all the time on computer displays at work and home when I had them. 

     

    My dream is to get my hands on a plasma screen laptop and mobile devices some day.  That will be like similar to alien technology. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Apple.  I'm gonna get a iPod Nano when I get some money. I'm totally broke right now as I spent all on power cables.

     

     

    goodolcheez

  • j182 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Next Mini Retina - DLXM3 (week 3, 2014). It has yellowing on the bottom 1/2. I plan to return it. If I hadn't seen a really nice Mini Retina at an Apple Store (DLXLV) and another acceptable one (DLXLL) I'd probably give up hope since I wouldn't believe good ones existed :)

     

    I came across this thread about the Nexus 4 which reads pretty much the same as here:

     

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/poor-screen-uniformity-yellow-tint- t2125540

  • goodolcheez Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Ya know... what did I tell ya guys. LCD's have uniformitty issues as usual.  Look, I love my 9 year old Panasonic plasma TV. It runs like a tank. Beautiful crisp pictures. Fast as heck. It's a 50" screen and heavy as heck (95 lbs). But because it's a professional / commerical model it's got a handle on both ends of the display so two people can carry around with them, anywhere, to another building across the street, indoor outdoor, take it to the grocery store, restrooms, coffee shop, etc etc. You can take it anywhere and plug the power cord and it's on. The 50 inch screen is big enough to enjoy. I love it.

     

     

    goodolcheez

  • Andytos Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Got new air wifi 128. The screen is PERRRRFECT! No yellow stains and, believe or not, ABSOLUTELY no bookspine. Throw all the garbage back to Apple, they have the good ones on the shelf! Good luck to all! ;)

  • Andytos Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Good to heat the room as well :). Plasma still wins in black level and brightness while sun is shining. Vera 65 is my good friend.

  • Liz9 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Congrats! I hope more people can find iPads with uniform screens. What are the first five letters or numbers of the serial for this iPad? I returned my last air a month ago after making 3 exchanges. Don't want to keep gambling and I haven't found a DMPLX at the store yet :(

  • j182 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Congratulations to Andytos!

     

    For anyone interested, I read somewhere about using a hair dry to reduce the yellowing. Sounds crazy, but I thought I'd give it a go with my latest Mini Retina. I had the hair dryer on the warm setting for about two minutes (the mini got fairly hot, but not too hot to touch). It absolutely, without a doubt, made the yellow go away. The yellow returned after a few minutes, however.

     

    I have no idea why heat makes the yellow go away, but I have to wonder if prolonged exposure will make it go away permanently (this Mini Retina does seem better than when I first got it). I am a bit concerned about making the Mini too hot with the hair dryer, but this is very intriguing.

     

    Anyone else feel bold enough to try it?

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