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Q: Macbook pro 15 inch (late 2013) gaming and overheating issues

So I recently bought the new MacBook pro retina 15 inch for college. But, being a $2700 machine, I'm definitely going to game on it too (And I expect it to run games fairly smooth). However, both performance and heat wise, its not performing anywhere near as well as it should.

 

The first game I tried was portal 2 which got around 40-50 fps on 1440 x 900 (not on max settings) and only about 4 fps less on the full 2880 x 1800 resolution. Expecting better performance from the 750m I moved on to trying minecraft because its such a simple game graphically (Don't judge! lol). Now on this I should be able to put it on max and expect a smooth 55-60 fps. It was showing 20-35... Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure an i7, 750m, 16gb ram, and a 512gb pci-e based flash drive system should be able to render out a bunch of blocks with pixilated textures on them faster than 28 fps.

 

Then I noticed how hot the keyboard was getting. So I put my ear against my MacBook and I couldn't hear any fans running; though I could feel heat slowly rising out of the vents so I knew the were running, just very slowly. I feared for my extremely expensive system so I quickly downloaded a temperature gauge app and closed java. I don't know if it was launching the temperature gauge app or closing minecraft but right after I did the fans finally kicked in at full speed. The temperature app read 82 degrees Celsius on the processor.

 

My friend has the mid 2012 version and he can certainly run a game such as minecraft at 60fps easy. I just really hope that its some bugs with Mavericks and not my system (I do feel like Mavericks utilizes java pretty poorly or vice versa). And the fan part, that scares me. I'd rather not have that much money (and beautiful engineering) melt away.

 

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for any help as to my situation too

 

-Kevin

 

Specs:

2.3GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7

512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

GT 750m 2048mb

16gb ddr3 1600Mhz


MACBOOK PRO (RETINA, 15-INCH, LATE 2013), OS X Mavericks (10.9)

Posted on Nov 3, 2013 11:01 AM

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  • by Bright_Spark_Jim,

    Bright_Spark_Jim Bright_Spark_Jim Dec 8, 2013 5:54 AM in response to lktfl
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    Dec 8, 2013 5:54 AM in response to lktfl

    I've just bought my macbook pro yesterday and have the same problem. if I play any game which this machine (which should handle), it reaches an average temp of 70 degrees, but after read this tread, I tried that Macs fan control program and it works a treat. All i did was increase the fan speed from the original ideal speed of 2200 to 2800 and now the CPU and GPU temp is a nice 58 Degrees on full load

     

    macbook spec is the following;


    Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013

     

    Processor  2.6 GHz Intel Core i7

     

    Memory  16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

     

    Graphics  NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2048 MB

     

    Software  OS X 10.9

  • by Bright_Spark_Jim,

    Bright_Spark_Jim Bright_Spark_Jim Dec 8, 2013 5:59 AM in response to Bright_Spark_Jim
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    Dec 8, 2013 5:59 AM in response to Bright_Spark_Jim

    Basiclly, the only thing wrong with the macbook pro is the auto fan settings, if they updated it to suit the machine on full load then everything would be fine. I also played around with the mac fan control and increased the fan spped to 3000, now both cpu and gpu cores are at 55 degrees.

  • by mak1176,

    mak1176 mak1176 Dec 16, 2013 8:34 AM in response to Bright_Spark_Jim
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    Dec 16, 2013 8:34 AM in response to Bright_Spark_Jim

    what games are you guys playing on your macbook pro 15 in late 2013? 

  • by Bright_Spark_Jim,

    Bright_Spark_Jim Bright_Spark_Jim Dec 16, 2013 5:22 PM in response to mak1176
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    Dec 16, 2013 5:22 PM in response to mak1176

    Mostly TF 2 maxed out runs fine and the fan speed hardly picks up, but then I pick eve online on for the fist time at max, it handles it fine but both the gpu and CPU heated quickly and the temp stays steady at 70 Degrees. The game still ran smooth, so the hardware can handle it, it's just the cooling Dose't Mach the powerful hardware.

  • by mak1176,

    mak1176 mak1176 Dec 18, 2013 8:12 PM in response to Bright_Spark_Jim
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    Dec 18, 2013 8:12 PM in response to Bright_Spark_Jim

    So your fan setting is set to 3000 rpm for both fans and your CPU temp is around 70 degrees while playing Eve Online, but you are around 55 playing TF2 correct?

  • by mak1176,

    mak1176 mak1176 Dec 19, 2013 6:05 AM in response to lktfl
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    Dec 19, 2013 6:05 AM in response to lktfl

    As a test, I played XCOM: Enemy Unknown through steam and closed all my other open applications.  My fans were set to max speed (6000 rpm for left and 5900 for right or something like that) and I was getting temperatures around 68 degrees C.  Do you guys think that the temperature is normal with both fans set at max speed?

  • by 1028paul,

    1028paul 1028paul Dec 31, 2013 7:57 AM in response to lktfl
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    Dec 31, 2013 7:57 AM in response to lktfl

    Hi :)

     

    So, I just cancelled my order for a late 2013 15 inch 2.3/16gig ram/dedicated GPU retina MBP

    ( same model), for fear I would get the same issues, and the other problems of touchpad/keyboard freezing up.

     

    Has the recent (15 inch with dedicated GPU specific) update sorted this issue or not ?

     

    I read that the iris pro was doing all the work because a software issue was stopping the dedicated GPU kicking in when it should have. Would this account for the overheating issues ?

     

    Can someone shed any further light on this ?

     

    Many thanks

     

    Paul

  • by 1028paul,

    1028paul 1028paul Dec 31, 2013 2:08 PM in response to lktfl
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    Dec 31, 2013 2:08 PM in response to lktfl

    Anyone ?

     

    Have any of the guys reporting overheating issues earlier, found that the additional update for the 15inch with dedicated GPU has sorted this issue ?

     

    Thanks

     

    Paul

  • by Tristan@honkong,

    Tristan@honkong Tristan@honkong Dec 31, 2013 6:21 PM in response to 1028paul
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    Dec 31, 2013 6:21 PM in response to 1028paul

    Hi Paul, I'm using the new mbp 16 gb 500ssd  and i running like a charm... Nothing is freezing like mouse or mousepad or keyboard. The only problem is the overheating but i shorted that out with the fan control app i found on the internet.

    I'm sending this from my iphone but later on the day when I'm home I will send you full report about performance

     

    Happy new year and have a nice day

  • by Delfo,

    Delfo Delfo Dec 31, 2013 10:52 PM in response to Tristan@honkong
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    Dec 31, 2013 10:52 PM in response to Tristan@honkong

    HI,

    talking about performance, what is the battery life on this macbook ???

    Thanks

  • by Tristan@honkong,

    Tristan@honkong Tristan@honkong Dec 31, 2013 11:47 PM in response to Delfo
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    Dec 31, 2013 11:47 PM in response to Delfo

    Battery life around 4 to 7 hours depends on what you doing.

    When im at the office basic work it even takes 8 Hours for me to empty the battery.

    Overall mbp 16Gb full options is just a super machine.... Every time when I use it it makes me happy :-) blazing fast , boots in 4 seconds

  • by 1028paul,

    1028paul 1028paul Jan 1, 2014 3:57 AM in response to lktfl
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    Jan 1, 2014 3:57 AM in response to lktfl

    Happy New Year to eveyone

     

    Thanks Tristan, I am wishing I had not cancelled my order now

     

    I had an earlier macbook pro (2011)  the screen was poor and I returned it as on white backgrounds there was a pink tint on the left side and a blue tint on the right... the two shop display models were the same. So now that they have a retina display, and SSD I figured the time was right to get one.

     

    I know macbook pros tend to run hot, but bearing in mind all of the issues that are being reported I felt it would be wise to hold off untill theses problems were addressed by Apple.

     

    I read about an update specifically for this model (15 inch / 2.3 i7 / NVIDIA GeForce 750m) to correct an issue where the dedicated GPU was not switching on as it should, and wondered if that was specifically to fix this issue?.. I appreciate that using a third party app to increase fan speeds would cool the CPU  & GPU, but if the GPU is not coming on as it should surely extra cooling is a compromise as opposed to a fix... ??

     

    It would be really good to hear from anyone who had the overheating issue then used this update, to see if that corrected the issue.

     

    Thanks

     

    Paul

  • by Tobin Anthony,

    Tobin Anthony Tobin Anthony Jan 1, 2014 9:44 AM in response to Tristan@honkong
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    Jan 1, 2014 9:44 AM in response to Tristan@honkong

    Tristan

     

    I edited the fan rules using iStat Menus which is probably similar to the app you used.

     

    But I'm a little wary of setting the fans up to 3000 rpm as a default as I think you mentioned in an earlier post.

     

    My overheating occurs sporadically and I am trying to log it as AppleCare/Geniuses cannot figure it out.

     

    I'm worried that if I set my fans too high, they will wear out faster, although 3000 rpm may not be much of a stress, but the nominal value is ~2000 rpm.

     

    What was your reasoning for setting them at 3000rpm?

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Also - I did take my 2013 Retina MBP to the Genius bar and they are going to replace the motherboard. Their diagnostics found something with the DC In Sensor. I am thinking it's a totally different issue but we'll see if this heating problem goes away when the repair is completed.

  • by 1028paul,

    1028paul 1028paul Jan 1, 2014 10:54 AM in response to lktfl
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    Jan 1, 2014 10:54 AM in response to lktfl

    Hi guys,

     

    The update for the GPU not turning on is on the downloads page of the apple support site.

     

    "MacBook Pro Retina EFI Update v1.2

     

    This update is recommended for MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, late 2013) models with NVIDIA graphics. 

     

    This update addresses an issue which, in rare cases, may limit the performance of the discrete graphics processor after a system wake or boot."

     

    Has anyone resolved CPU/integrated iris pro overheating issues with this update ??

     

    Thanks

     

    Paul

  • by Tristan@honkong,

    Tristan@honkong Tristan@honkong Jan 1, 2014 9:46 PM in response to Tobin Anthony
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    Jan 1, 2014 9:46 PM in response to Tobin Anthony

    Tobin,

     

    I changed my macbook already 4 times... if they telling you that they going to change the motherboard that means they are going to give you a brand new macbook.. I had the same problems.. even blew up my graphic card so the only thing I had left where stripes on my screen. The last time I went back and made a big fuss at the Apple store they offered me a 17% discount just to calm me down " Thank you Apple "

     

    And about the Fan controller... if I let my computer run without istats or what kind of fan controller my computer will get to warm.. even when I use Photoshop it's overheating or when I watch a movie I have that problem.. it's not a sensor problem it's a software problem

     

    Even if my fans break down I think it's more easy for Apple to replace a fan rather than a new mainboard, but I also expect you have apple care plan for in case your retina breaks down or something else?

     

     

     

     

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