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Problem with Computer, is it OS related?

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Jarveye Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)
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Nov 4, 2013 2:53 AM

I just turned on my mac today (spec below) and it was working fine, when i got the spinning beach ball, and nothing was responding, i had a few things running, i had aperture, firefox, and mail running.

 

i had to hold downt he button on the front to turn off and on again, as i couldnt even force relaunch finder...

 

it re-started, i put it down to a one off an continued what i was doing, but it happened again, so i did the same thing, this time during start up i got a folder icon with a question mark (does this mean it cant find the startup disk??) i has a mild panic attack, and tried just off/on again which luckily seemed to start the computer again. this time once started i tried a few simple tasks without starting all the same programs, i used firefox, and mail, but no aperture, the crash happened again, so this time i unplugged all things not necessary (mainly external HDs) and got my start up disk and booted from it and did a repair permissions and repair disk, i couldnt see anything obvious which was fixed, but i have started up fine and i am posting on here using firefox without any problems as of yet... (fingers crossed)

 

Now i suppose what im asking is, any ideas on the problem? or what elese i should do to remedy it?

i have another internal HD, should i do repair to this also? what about the other external HDs?

 

I know the mac and the OS is a little dated now, but i am stuck with it for the meantime so i would like to bear with it but if the diagnosis is that the computer or HD is on its last legs it would be good to know in advance, its difficult to ensure everything is alays backed up safely, and this version of OSX doesnt have time machine.

Mac Pro 2x2Ghz Dual Core Xeon, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 6CB 667Mhz DDR2 FB DIMM
  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,715 points)
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    Nov 4, 2013 12:21 PM (in response to Jarveye)

    Hello,

     

    Have you blown the dust out lately?

     

    Get Temperature Monitor to see if it's heat related...

     

    http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/12381/temperature-monitor

     

    See if the Disk is issuing any S.M.A.R.T errors in Disk Utility...

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/PH7029

     

     

    Open Activity Monitor in Applications>Utilities, select All Processes & sort on CPU%, any indications there?

     

    How much free RAM & free Disk space do you have also, click on the Memory & Disk Usage Tabs.

     

    Open Console in Utilities & see if there are any clues or repeating messages when this happens.

     

    In the Memory tab of Activity Monitor, are there a lot of Pageouts?

     

    One way to test is to Safe Boot from the HD, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, Test for problem in Safe Mode...

     

    PS. Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive

     

    Reboot, test again.

     

    If it only does it in Regular Boot, then it could be some hardware problem like Video card, (Quartz is turned off in Safe Mode), or Airport, or some USB or Firewire device, or 3rd party add-on, Check System Preferences>Accounts (Users & Groups in later OSX versions)>Login Items window to see if it or something relevant is listed. Or an errant process eating up RAM.

     

    Check the System Preferences>Other Row, for 3rd party Pref Panes.

     

    Also look in these if they exist, some are invisible...

     

    /private/var/run/StartupItems

     

    /Library/StartupItems

     

    /System/Library/StartupItems

     

    /System/Library/LaunchDaemons

     

    /Library/LaunchDaemons

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,715 points)
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    Nov 5, 2013 11:00 AM (in response to Jarveye)

    Hmmm, according to this, your Mac ro can run 10.5,  even 10.6, or the not so good 10.7!?

     

     

    http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-2.0-specs.html

     

     

    Anyway, Dropbox seems to be failing or bad from the above.

     

    In System Preferences>Accounts>Login Iems, highlight Drobax & click the tiny minus icon below.

    i am currently on the computer in normal mode putting together this response, and as of yet have not had another freeze, but im reluctant to beleive it has just magically stopped, as it was doing it again after i dusted and i havent changed anything else..

    Safe Mode also clears a lot of Caches, so maybe Vropbax is OK now?

     

    Oh, are you at 10.4.11?

  • BDAqua Level 10 Level 10 (114,715 points)
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    Nov 6, 2013 3:32 PM (in response to Jarveye)

    i think the 10.5 disk doesnt work because it came with another mac pro of a completely different spec.

     

    Correct, gray discs are machine specific.

    is there any way i can download 10.6 or 10.7 and install it on the new hard drive without having to order the disk?

    Nope, you mist orer the 10.6 disc, then update to 10.6.8 to get App Store..

     

    Snow Leopard/10.6.x Requirements...

     

    General requirements

       * Mac computer with an Intel processor

        * 1GB of memory (I say 4GB at least, more if you can afford it)

        * 5GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)

        * DVD drive for installation

        * Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.

        * Some features require Apple’s MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.

     

    Which apps work with Mac OS X 10.6?...

     

    http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/

    It's been pulled from the online store & Apple Stores, so you have to call Apple to buy it, last I heard.

    Buy Snow Leopard > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

    Call Apple Sales...in the US: 1-800-MY-APPLE. Or Support... 1-800-275-2273

     

    Other countries...

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HE57

     

    It looks like they might still have it...

     

    http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDAzOA

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