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Nov 5, 2013 5:24 AM in response to warypb1by léonie,★HelpfulQuestion - I dont think you can upgrade the retina drive to a normal drive ?
Mick, you will lose performance, if you substitute the SSD by a slower drive.
What I did was, to replace the CD/DVD drive by a second internal disk. I don't need a CD/DVD drive that often and can burn media on my older mac.
The second internal drive holds my iTunes library and my Aperture library.
But you could opt for an external drive - 1 TB drives are easy to carry around and no longer very expensive. Format the drive MacOS X Extended (Journaled) and simply drag your Aperture library to that disk using the Finder.
Léonie
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Nov 5, 2013 5:40 AM in response to léonieby warypb1,Hi Leonie,
Thats interesting - how easy is it to replace the drive in the MB Pro chasis - I would like to have the speed of the SSD as the OSS and program files and then hold the library files on the Fusion drive if its possible to take the CD rom out ?
I have a USBCD Drive that I use here so I dont really use the one that is in the Mac book ...
M
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Nov 5, 2013 6:09 AM in response to warypb1by léonie,how easy is it to replace the drive in the MB Pro chasis -
I let the Apple Retail Store do it, so I cannot really tell you, how easy it is. I did not want to forsake the warrenty by opening the Mac myself.
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Nov 5, 2013 6:35 AM in response to warypb1by Kirby Krieger,★HelpfulHi Mick,
Swapping out an unused CD-ROM for a useful HDD is a good exchange. OWC can likely help you determine what you can do and what parts you need.
I run a mixed Library on my personal machine (rMBP w. 500 GB SSD, no second drive bay). People generally think that it's the Library that is either referenced or managed, but it is more properly each Image's Original that is referenced or managed. I keep my Library on my laptop's SSD, import all new files into it with managed Originals, and once every month or so relocate the Originals of any Images that are older then 45 days. So my Library functions as a kind of processing tube: files come in, they are indexed, they are adjusted to my needs, and then the files are moved to an external HD. The index, and the Previews, stay with the Library, which stays on my laptop. With some tweaking for portfolio Images and incomplete projects, this system works well for me.
Note, though, that bus speeds for external drives are no longer the bottleneck they used to be. IME, you lose nothing perceptible if you put your entire Library on an external drive connected via USB-3 (or, I assume, Thunderbolt).
Having your system files on a large SSD, and your Library on a second internal drive, is almost ideal for a laptop.
In all cases I recommend leaving 100 GB unused on your SSD. OS X and Aperture are good at using this "scratch" space.
HTH,
--Kirby.
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Nov 5, 2013 6:52 AM in response to Kirby Kriegerby warypb1,Thanks Kirby
I guess my next question will be - if I go down the route of having the second drive to hold my Original files and the SSD to hold the thumbnaisl and previews - whats the best way or the process for me to move the files to an external drive with in Aperture ? Having never done this before
Thanks in advance
Mick
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Nov 5, 2013 7:09 AM in response to warypb1by léonie,if I go down the route of having the second drive to hold my Original files and the SSD to hold the thumbnaisl and previews - whats the best way or the process for me to move the files to an external drive with in Aperture ?
Mick, use the command "File > Relocate Originals" to move the original image files for selected images to a new folder outside the library. That folder can be on an external drive.
You may want to read this section of the Aperture user manual:
Aperture 3 User Manual: Working with Referenced Images
That explains, how referenced images will work.
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Nov 5, 2013 8:35 AM in response to warypb1by Kirby Krieger,Mick,
warypb1 wrote:
I guess my next question will be - if I go down the route of having the second drive to hold my Original files and the SSD to hold the thumbnails and previews - what's the best way or the process for me to move the files to an external drive with in Aperture ?
Sorry -- I've gotten confused. Is your second drive going to be internal or external?
Léonie covered how to move your Originals. Aperture makes it easy to move them; you can change any from managed to referenced, or vice versa, at any time.
--Kirby.
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Nov 5, 2013 10:16 AM in response to Kirby Kriegerby warypb1,Just reading the tech specs on the new Mac Pro and the CDRom drive is now no more so I dont think I can add the additonal drive so it would have to be an external drive connected through USB or perhaps via WiFi ?
Can you connect a USB Drive to an Airport Express to act as a Time Machine / Server / NAS back up
OR do you need to get a Mac compatable NAS device and load the data on there ?
I might be making this messy ...
All in the name of upgrading a computer ...
What do you think ?
M
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Nov 5, 2013 10:32 AM in response to warypb1by léonie,Don't even think about using a NAS with Aperture.
Use locally mounted Mac OS X Extended volumes for your Aperture library
Put your Aperture library or referenced originals on a locally connected drive - pick one with a fast port; USB 3 or Thunderbolt.
It used to be possible to put the references original on a NAS; but recently (since Mavericks) we have seen so many issues with referenced originals on a NAS, that I would refrain from trying that. Photos are too precious to risk this way.
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Nov 5, 2013 11:24 AM in response to warypb1by warypb1,Thanks Leonie / Kirby
I have since found that if I am to upgrade to the latest version of aperture I am going to need to have an external USB drive to put the original files on to.
I have also found the relocate button as well in Aperture and am in the process of moving these to my external hard drive.
Question for those that have done this - when I import my new photos from my DSLR is there an easy way to tell which projects are being stored on my laptop and which ones are on the external disk?
When you locate the libary to an external drive does Aperture save the version you have made changes to on your laptop - or does that get saved on the external disk?
And...
Say I would like to get some photos printed by photobox normally I right click on the photo and click on export versions (As I think this means the one I have made changes to ? )
Can I still do this with out the external hard drive being connected ?
Also slightly side tracked on this topic but whats the difference between Export Orignal or Export Version - I always thought that the version might be the one that I have made changes to in Aperture ?
Sorry chaps quite a few bits in there slightly related !
Mick
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Nov 8, 2013 11:24 AM in response to warypb1by warypb1,Hi again
I have moved and relocated my orignal photos to a USB drive - however, I dont seem to have saved any space ?
I have I missed a step somewhere ?
I went to Photos selected all of the photos and then File relocate.What do I need to do next ?
Mick