How to buy the 1TB PCIe-based Flash Storage ?

Whitecity wrote:

So what, exactly is the value in taking data with me on a separate external drive?

Portable backup, HD clone, or traveling redundancy. There is not only a value, but a near necessity.

A portable HD, depending on the length of your trip, is used as a Time Machine backup, or just a general data backup incase of HD or SSD failure. That's one aspect of its value.

Secondly, professionals carry with them a SSD or HD clone, which they can boot to in case of internal SSD or HD failure.

The fastest methodology of returning to work after a SSD or HD crash is a bootable clone. So, you can boot your HD / SSD clone off another computer (with some guidelines) if you're away / traveling.

Or, say if you are across the globe, you buy another likewise computer and restore everything in a short period of time or boot from it which is even faster still.

Third, many people have enormous amounts of "necessary travel data" My main necessary collection is 1.4TB, which as you know, will not fit on any internal SSD or HD.

Packing a portable HD around for perpetually backing up your data is nothing short of necessary.

proaudioguy

The Seagates inside didn't fail...... Only the Lacie failed.

Lacie doesnt manufacture anything. Comprising the parts of the external "Lacie" (if its a USB model) is a plastic or metal box, a Seagate HD, a cable and a SATA bridge card.

I assume you refer to SATA card failure, which is very common, see here:

https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6121

I carry a clone, and itunes on my SSD. I carry a backup of Itunes and my movies on my HDD. We share movies at work. It has nothing to do with work. With the movies on that 1TB there is no room for the OS, but it boots so slow on an HDD, I don't even want it there.

SO I have a backup of the music on 2 drives and I have the OS on 2 drives, internal and external. That's doing my due dilligence. At home I have 4 more drives that are just archives, a time capsule, and my wife's itunes drive, and photos drive, which are clones of mine. I think I have enough backups and redundancy. What I don't have is a 1TB drive that will fit in my rMBP and since that was the subject of this thread, it's really the only relivent subject to answer on.

"Portable backup, HD clone, or traveling redundancy. There is not only a value, but a near necessity."

A portable backup is a completely different idea to your original proposal of not storing data on a laptop.

"Third, many people have enormous amounts of "necessary travel data" My main necessary collection is 1.4TB, which as you know, will not fit on any internal SSD or HD."

I have 2TB of storage in my mbp. Carrying an additional portable backup is not what you were proposing. We're done.

Whitecity wrote:

I have 2TB of storage in my mbp.

You have a second HD in your Optical bay if that's the case.

a 15.2mm thick (the thinnest conventional 2TB hard drive) will not fit into any macbook HD bay out there. Rather 2HD, one in the HD bay, and one in the Opti-bay.

However two 12.5mm thick 1.5TB HD can go into a non-retina Macbook Pro (one in the optical, and one in the HD bay) for a total of 3TB

No SSD or HD inside a computer is storage by definition. Its your computer system data.

1. All data on the computer is just that, your data.

2. All data on the first external HD is your backup.

3. Only the second external HD is your first safe data storage / redundancy.

The single worst mistake almost ALL computer users make is wrongly thinking that an internal HD (or drives) is "data storage". It is not.

"data storage" and "internal" can never be implied of the same HD(s)/SSD or location.

This way of looking at ones data is #1 cause of data loss without exception.

Never consider any computer a data storage device at any time under any circumstance, rather a data creation, sending, and manipulation device. Anyone who thinks data is safe on /in any computer, even copied upon multiple partitions is making a mistake that will, without fail, strike.

You can use the 2nd HD inside the macbook AS a Time Machine backup,... however considering its IN the macbook, if it gets stolen or lost, then the issue and error of logic becomes obvious, and data protection forthwith nullified.

This is complete nonsense.

You're making no sense at all.

I do, indeed, have two drives, one SSD and one HD in my MBP.

Neither of them are a backup, they are os and data storage. I use external drives as backups, as does everyone except you apparently.

I think it's because that option is not available at this time. I would wait until there are 3rd party developers.

For example: Ebay has some and they are way overpriced, but it might be worth it seeing as the other way would be buying a new Mac. Haven't tested it yet, but I assume it would work.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Samsung-1TB-SSD-Flash-PCIe-for-MacBook-Pro-Retina- late-2013-Models-only-/321385140404

applefan09 wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Samsung-1TB-SSD-Flash-PCIe-for-MacBook-Pro-Retina- late-2013-Models-only-/321385140404

Used 1TB of SSD for $900

For that you can buy a new Mac Mini quad core

and still have enough left over for a 3 Terabyte hard drive.

You are right it is expensive, but you are over exagerating a lot. Apple charges $800 for 1TB SSD on their site. Since it's a rare SSD then I wouldn't mind spending that much.

I am pretty desperate and took my Macbook apart to put a 1TB SSD in it and realized that it uses PCIe and SATA is no longer used. I am now stuck with a 256 GB SSD, which I can barely use. I am a programmer and need the space.

You guys seem to be completely oblivious that the link you posted is for a completely different machine. There is NO 1TB drive available for the original rMBP. That is the late 2013 model. They came with 1TB drives from the factory. There are 3 models before that one that did not and there is no solution. The pins don't even line up. It's all in this thread if you bothered to read it.

Fact is if Apple had offered it, I wouldn't even be in this thread because I would have ordered it wiht my machine. 768 was as big as it got and it was a $500 upgrade and not big enough so I opted for 512. When the LATE 2013 (as the add says) came out it was $500 to go from 512 to 1TB. I would have gladly paid it. My external cost $480.

So your saying that a 1TB PCI-e SSD that's made for a Late 2013 Macbook Pro will not work in a Late 2013 Macbook Pro? I took my Macbook Pro apart and the pins look pretty close. Are you saying that the boards are completely different even though they are the same model?

No,..I'm saying it will ONLY work in that machine which was NOT what this thread was about in the first place.

Why would anyone ask about finding something that is comon and easy to find. They have been all over ebay since the day after that machien was released and quite frankly if you wanted it, you should have ordered it with the machine. My machine (mid 2012, purchased Jan 2013, , the Feb 2013 slight refresh, and the mid 2013 refresh have no possible solution. This thread is abotu mid 2012 rMBP. Look at the OP. You are in the wrong place if you have a late 2013 model.

When I read 2012/2013 Retina Macbook Pro I was thinking it also meant the late 2013. I understand that the Macbook Pro's before the Late 2013 one's are slightly different for the SSD's. Theoretically, there is no Macbook Pro that is made in 2012/2013. They are classified as Early/Mid/Late models. The thread said 2012/2013 so it's really confusing that he meant the mid 2012 model not 2013. Also, MacTracker is a fantastic app for references.

Thanks for that clarification on the storage though. I have only dealt with SCSI, EIDE, SATA, and pre-PCI-e SSD.

As for the OP, he could get the OWC one, but it's limited to 460GB.

Well the 3 models prior to the late 2013 are almost identical so I took it to mean those. Also the late 2013 came with 1TB so no need to look for that. Just order it with it. At least that's how I read it.

Yea OWC is smaller than my stock drive so useless to me. I was counting on them but they failed me and they aren't going to come out with anything. That was the last chance. I regret buying this machine. I should have bought a closeout 17". I run this at 1920x1200 99% of the time anyway and could have used the larger screen for my aging eyesight. I also could have loaded a pair of Samsung 1TB SSDs in that bad boy by losing the optical bay. I think the screen is probably almost as good. Add to that, my wife's 13" is darn near as fast as this one in most of the ways that matter, and it runs cooler. I could have purchased 2 13" machines for the price of this one and had money left over. The idea of having this was to run multiple playbacks at the same time, but with 2 machines I can also run multiple playbacks and if one fails I don't lose the show. If this fails I lose it all. Live and learn. Next major purchase is a mac mini with dual SSDs. I'm going to run all my live plugins most of my playback from there and use this one for controling hardware, as a backup playback, and to run windows apps that control hardware. That will likely be end of 2014.

I had the Late 2010 Macbook Pro (High-end, maxed out configs). I was in need of a new one for my programming work I do (Android/iOS/Web/PHP/MySQL). I wanted/needed it really bad and couldn't afford over 3,000 dollars. So I bought the one I have now off Cowboom for $1,500. I should have waited, but I really needed it. I am glad I made the purchase though. Even for a low end model this Macbook Pro packs some insane power. Even with the Retina display it's pretty awesome. I hook up 2 - 22 inch displays to it and it's exactly what I need for my programming tasks.

As for the 256GB SSD, it's not enough and I am stuck with paying about $900 for an SSD. It's worth it because I still keep my 256GB SSD and it's only 100 more than the Apple website. I will keep this in mind for next time and just order it maxed out in configurations. I am stuck with 8GB of RAM as well, but surprisingly it's just enough. If it's not then the SSD won't be slow for swap space compared to a 5400RPM hard drive.

I have 2 Mac Mini's as my Mac servers. I put all my services and other resources on there rather than wasting my client machine performance.

For your screen issue you can get 22 inch displays for 130 dollars on Amazon. I bought 2 of them and they support 1080p. For like 30 dollars more you can get a LED one. I would connect it to that and when you are mobile you can just use your Macbook Display. I have always wanted the 17 inch, but it was bigger. They stopped making them and I came up with a different solution --having 2 displays and when mobile my 15 inch Retina. I also rate productivity on the overall speed of completing a task. If my computer is slow then having 2 screens almost levels out. If my computer is super fast, I can use one. If my computer is fast and have 2 displays and 8 Spaces etc, then my productivity is the fastest I can produce. Either way, it's substantial compared to my Macbook Pro 2010 that didn't support Airplay or 2/3 external monitors.