Q: Ipad air low memory crash

Let's try again to clear this up once and for all: I (and several other posters here) have NEVER seen an iPad Air which doesn't crash and/or isn't unstable and unreliable when "stressed" (i.e. actually USED like it's supposed to), it's NOT that it's a minority of iPad Airs that have problems, it's a minority of USERS that notice them.

It's exactly like the iPhone4's Antennagate and the iPad3's inadequate specs, these 2 products have what with hindsight EVERYONE today knows to be inherent design flaws. Apple admitted to Antennagate giving out free bumpers and even lost a class action suit IIRC and Apple implicitly admitted to the second by releasing the much improved and upgraded iPad4 few short months after the launch of the iPad3 (which had too slow CPU/GPU and too little RAM to handle Retina).

I remember threads just like this one at the time (I was just a lurker back then) with lots of folks defending Apple and saying their own iDevice was fine... well, as later admitted *by Apple itself*: B.S.! ALL of those iPhones and iPads were exactly the same, hardware-wise, and would behave exactly the same under the same conditions!! Some of those deniers were simply very light users who didn't (couldn't) NOTICE the flaws, some other ones had evidently other motives I don't want to speculate on, here...

I am more and more convinced that, iOS7's bugs aside, the first gen 64bit iDevices have hardware design flaws just like some other iPhones and iPads before. In this case, too little RAM (an absurdly constant issue with Apple) and the 64bit architecture which is not supported by mature and stable software. Fixing the latter I think will take quite a bit of time, fixing the former is of course not possible.

The only solution I see is getting rid of the Air and going back to an iPad4 or to a non-iOS tablet.
Waiting for 7.1 (which is just a POSSIBLE, partial fix) is a possible course of action too but it's MONTHS away and several frustrating MONTHS have already passed without any communication from Apple on the issues at hand, the possible fixes and a scedule for them...

I see 74522 view as of writing this... apple just stick it to all of us with their new Ipad Air ad...

Apple you should have never release the commercial until you find a fix

I must admit that the ipad air got better after my last censored posts

I try not to go as fast ... switch between tabs slowly like it was the 90s ... just laugh at it when i lose all my work because of safari or chrome crashing... i just log back in to all the sites that i got kicked out from because of the crash...

So why you guys complaining... just go slow... its 1995

xdapao, you are right except for one thing: it's not just an Air issue; it's apparently an iPad with iOS 7 issue. But maybe made worse on the Air.

Not just an Air Issue

Air, Retina Mini, 5s .. All 64-bit kit

Perfect comment of the perfect xdapao's post.

All the discussion is resumed your last post guys....

The problem may also happen on the Ipad 4 but the frequency cannot be even close to the Air. I spent two weeks over Christmas staying with my parents and while they where using their Ipad 4 I was using my Air. I estimate that safari crashed/close 5+ times per day for me and I never heard a single complaint from my parents. And they usually complain, to me, when something does not work on the Ipad.
So I think it is much more prevalent on the Air.

But I found a way around it. Today I have not used my Ipad once and I have not seen it crash either. That may be the solution. Don't use it.

Guys, re-read my comment, that's *exactly* what I said.

After lots of trials and errors and "building knowledge" on this whole issue I feel we are dealing with 2 largely separate issues here:

- iOS7's bugs (this o.s. really, REALLY felt like an unfinished beta when it was released and has really not improved much in the long months since...)

- first gen 64bit iDevices' insufficient RAM and an architecture which seems far away from getting adequate SW support.

So there are less issues with 32bit iDevices, especially those with 1GB of RAM (and, most importantly, those are FIXABLE issues via software updates! although I have a feeling it will be a long wait...) and more issues on 64bit ones (part of which CANNOT be fixed via software, just like iPhone4's Antennagate and iPad3's inadequate specs couldn't be fixed via software...).

Funny you mentioned the iPod 5G I used my wife's iPod last night last night to look something up online as my devices were recharging. Sure enough Safari crashed on me when I was updating my router settings so while the 32-bit iOS 7 is more resilient to crashes, it definitely isn't immune.

Yup make that 4 I've already gone into apple store or best buy and I've made every single ios 7 device crash through Safari.  I am now getting daily BSOD crashes to the apple logo. Tonight it crashed by me simply pressing the home Button.

{"bundleID":"com.apple.springboard","app_name":"SpringBoard","bug_type":"109","n ame":"SpringBoard","os_version":"iPhone OS 7. (11D5127c)","version":"50 (1.0)"}

Incident Identifier: 5F801F6A-F8D6-481C-B7E5-963FF2DCAAEE

CrashReporter Key:   98c84d09e9f5b9eabd7ab04f01525c07b78d5467

Hardware Model:      iPad4,2

Process:             SpringBoard [16]

Path:                /System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SpringBoard

Identifier:          com.apple.springboard

Version:             50 (1.0)

Code Type:           ARM-64 (Native)

Parent Process:      launchd [1]

Date/Time:           2014-01-13 19:59:06.802 -0500

OS Version:          iOS 7. (11D5127c)

Report Version:      104

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)

Exception Subtype: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000010

Triggered by Thread:  0

Yup, not saying mine never crashes out of safari, but no low memory log errors, and the crashes are just safari, not reboots. .. At least for me.

This is a bit off subject but I have a 4s and after updating it. It's still a good phone like it doesn't run slowly like things used too when you updated after having a legacy device. Could that be because Tim cooks in office? Also are legacy devices being supported longer??

Only one thing. Nobody's going to any non iOS tablet here..

Safari AGAIN crashed using just facebook and THIS VERY page... And funny thing I noticed in diagnostics data is it says iPhone OS!!!?

Incident Identifier: 31488968-34E2-4A54-93D8-299178BEC437

CrashReporter Key:   df1da649874633025ff6c40800e56d5266aa1afb

Hardware Model:      iPad4,1

OS Version:          iPhone OS 7.0.4 (11B554a)

Kernel Version:      Darwin Kernel Version 14.0.0: Fri Sep 27 23:08:32 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2423.3.12~1/RELEASE_ARM64_S5L8960X

Date:                2014-01-14 06:41:27 +0300

Time since snapshot: 186 ms

NemesisMB wrote:

 

Only one thing. Nobody's going to any non iOS tablet here..

This kind of blind loyalty is what lets Apple get away with treating its customers like mushrooms and leaving us with a very poor experience since iOS7 and especially on their "latest and greatest" 64bit flagship devices.

I am loyal to no one, Apple isn't shipping its products to me free of charge, I am paying for them and I want value for money. From Apple and from anybody else. Always.
If/when I am not getting it anymore I look elsewhere.

I am 39 and have lived the "IT revolution" since the beginning and I have used and switched several times operating systems and brands, I am always looking for what's best for *ME*.

Ok. They're working on it.